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Poisonium
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 Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject: 121 |
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If we do have 2 scum left then it is probable we have both a doc and a cop to balance so pick wisely gentlemen. |
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The 2 scum, 1 doc, 1 cop, 3 vanilla setup actually favors the town, so I wouldn't count on it. It seems more likely to me, for there only to be one town power role.
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lexprod
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:16 pm Post subject: 122 |
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| Thats funny, the safest lynch would be to lynch lex, then you so the town can win. |
Are you suggesting that your one piece of evidence for me, that I insulted you, makes me the best candidate for a lynch? There is plenty enough suspicious activity from everyone, and to pick out a weak "tell" as the best possible lynch is asinine to me. Also, you keep yelling your head off at UM about "no safe lynch" even though you are prepared to vote and have voted. (If UM is acting so bizzare to you, why do I have the vote on my head?)
And UM: please spare us the poetry and just say what you mean. Also MNOWAX is right, if there are 2 scum, regardless of town magic powers, we're LYLO.
And can everyone please stop throwing around the "lex is leading us" argument? MNOWAX and UM are the ones pushing votes around, and MNO is now the one clearly trying to force his ideas on others.
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:07 am Post subject: 123 |
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you're rigt, i am pushing ideas, cause i'm right SWING SCUM! UM will get his day in the noose,after we swing you.
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lexprod
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| Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:45 am Post subject: 124 |
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| you're rigt, i am pushing ideas, cause i'm right SWING SCUM! UM will get his day in the noose,after we swing you. |
Any reason -I- have to be lynched first? Even though UM has been more evasive, more vote-agressive, and he's one of the ones who actually voted for Zag last round? Don't we have a better shot if we lynch someone who had a hand in the mislynch? It is the only hard evidence we have, and out of the 3 surviving voters is very likely scum. For all those reasons UM is a better vote than me.
But maybe you won't vote him now because you and him are scum partners. Perhaps that why he opened with a raekuul vote, not wanting to risk losing you at the start of the day when everyone was likely to bandwagon you for hammering. Maybe that's why the mafia didn't dogpile on your vote for UM, nor his vote for you, because there wasn't anyone to. In fact you two are the only ones so far who have been willing to vote in a LYLO situation with 2 mafia and 3 votes needed to lynch. All these facts don't bode well for you two.
Now what are my sins, and saying "I'm right" does not make a proper logical argument.
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:29 pm Post subject: 125 |
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I think that entire last post scum distancing, but I'll still bite.
Both of you guys are scum, it doesnt matter who gets lynched first, I guess.
Unvote, Vote Undercover Monk
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Undercover Monk
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| Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:18 pm Post subject: 126 |
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I won't be around for the rest of the weekend. So just so you guys know I will be keeping my vote on MNOWAX. If he is not scum I will eat my hat. 
I will give a much more detailed account of my reasonings if I am still around Tuesday or Wednesday.
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:56 pm Post subject: 127 |
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would you like hot sauce, or just Ketchup to go with that hat?
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lexprod
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:19 am Post subject: 128 |
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Note: I will laugh my ass off if in the end MNOWAX and UM end up being the scum, and they got to the point today where they were both willing to bus each other in order to save face.
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lexprod
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:29 am Post subject: 129 |
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| Ahhh, dead again on the first day. I really suck at being a townie. My goal this time was just to keep my head down and not say much, but I can't seem to do that, either. |
Shifting to raekuul, since I think this round has not had a ton from him and I want to make sure we have plenty of content to look back on come day 3 (fingers crossed) to make the right decision.
When you read this post, did you really think you could un-lynch him when you unvoted in the next post? It seems like this confession of town-ship would auto-kill him anyhow, and break the game if we were allowed "backsies."
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Poisonium
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:05 pm Post subject: 130 |
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I think it's funny that both MNOWAX and Undercover Monk have promised to eat their hats in case they're wrong.
Also, I'm echo-ing lexprod's request to Raekuul for more activity.
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raekuul
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:11 pm Post subject: 131 |
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It's been a busy week.
@lexprod: The more I think about it, the more I have to agree with you. I was only throwing suspicion at the wall and hoping that it stuck, but MNO and UM both sound like they know more than we do. Or are trying to sound like that, anyway. I'm not going to vote quite yet, though, but that's because I'm not wanting to be the one to try and backpedal a second time. And anyone can make a claim to township; we all do it at some point anyway, whether it's true or not.
@MNOWAX: You've been waay too eager to lynch today. And how was lex's post "Scum Distancing"? He's just laying out the arguments against you and UM.
@UM: Stop acting like you're the Great and Powerful Oz, and give us some straight answers. I'm already super-suspicious of you because of your Fork-In-The-Road speech.
@poisonium: I've played games where the town lynched the moderator by accident. Naturally, I was the mod for that game :3
Now, I'll do all of you one better: if we manage to lynch the mod, I'll boil and eat my shoe. |
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Poisonium
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: 132 |
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I'd certainly like to know why MNOWAX and Undercover Monk are so certain of everything they say.
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: 133 |
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| I'd certainly like to know why MNOWAX and Undercover Monk are so certain of everything they say. |
I think I have made my points on why UM and Lex should be killed.
UM - Eager to vote in LYLO
Lex - scum distancing after I jumped on UM, and from earlier due to claiming that I would mislynch, even though I felt (and stated so) UM was scum for LYLO vote.
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Undercover Monk
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: 134 |
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MNOWAX- He has been overzealous from the beginning. I have no idea why a townie would act like this. He hasn't calmed down either (even though the discussion has taken a slightly more rational turn). he can't back down without looking extremely suspicious. He has dug his own grave if only you guys would grab a shovel and finish him off. 10/10
lexprod- Yes I know the lynch the leader tact is an old one but it continues to work as it seems the scum just can't help themselves. Not to say this is fatal evidence but it always sets off alarm bells in my head. But MNO should be the first lynch and we can get to lexprod next day. So a fairly safe 7/10
reakuul- apart from that one post regarding Zags lynching I would say he ranks higher than poisonium on the pro-town scale. But that was such a huge mistake that I can't let go of it. Have you ever responded to why you posted that. 6/10 for now..
poisonium- probably the lurkiest of the lot. And yet most of his comments have felt honest. So for now a 3/10
Undercover Monk- A venerable fortress of integrity. (so sue me I like metaphors) The fork in the road post was more eaxsperation at the idea the SAFE and SAFEST are synonyms. we must lynch someone so my vote will always stay on who I feel is the safEST lynch. Savvy 0/10
now who has something new to discuss???
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lexprod
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: 135 |
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| Lex - scum distancing after I jumped on UM, and from earlier due to claiming that I would mislynch, even though I felt (and stated so) UM was scum for LYLO vote. |
How was my explanation of what I meant by the "mislynch" comment scum distancing? Did you not want me to explain what I meant? And what about the scum distancing from Undercover Monk? Could it not be that I'm just suspicious of him as a townie?
MNO, your whole case against me seems built on no real logic. I could say you're clearly scum distancing from me, by your rules, which seem to mean that any arguments mean it's a scum trying to look less suspicious. I guess in your mind we're supposed to play like you, throwing around one sentence "hunch" based posts. Explanations be damned!
If nothing crazy changes, I'm gonna vote MNOWAX on friday.
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: 136 |
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Scum team = UM + Lex. No doubt about it. They are just WAITING for Raekull or Pos to drop a vote on me.
heres the deal:
assuming both lex and I are innocent. When i voted for lex, two scum would have jumped on it and this would be game over. Therefore ONE OF US MUST BE SCUM.
When i jumped on UM, assuming both he and I are innocent, both scum would have jumped on and this would be game over. therefore ONE OF US MUST BE SCUM.
Raekuul had a vote on UM. If they were both inoocent, the two other scum would have jumped on, ending this game. therefore, ONE OF THEM MUST BE SCUM!
My math from above works out right.BTW, the scum distancing that i was referring to had nothing to do with the mislynch comment, rather it referred to Lex's post 124.
The ONLY person I trust right now is Poisonium, but i think the other townie apart from me is Raekuul. This game is so over, if people would listen to me, rather than the two scum posting analysis and claiming i am the most scummy for asserting myself when I have sniffed out the scum.
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lexprod
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: 137 |
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Scum team = UM + Lex. No doubt about it. They are just WAITING for Raekull or Pos to drop a vote on me.
heres the deal:
assuming both lex and I are innocent. When i voted for lex, two scum would have jumped on it and this would be game over. Therefore ONE OF US MUST BE SCUM.
When i jumped on UM, assuming both he and I are innocent, both scum would have jumped on and this would be game over. therefore ONE OF US MUST BE SCUM.
Raekuul had a vote on UM. If they were both inoocent, the two other scum would have jumped on, ending this game. therefore, ONE OF THEM MUST BE SCUM! |
First of all, while the threat of a two-vote dogpile should be enough to prevent townies from voting out of fear, it is not necessarily what the mafia would do, for reasons such as doubting how soon your partner would log on.
Secondly, I can use your exact logic to "prove" you and UM are scum. You assume out of the 3 pairs, there must be one mafia in each. Let's assume "at least one" in each.
Lex and MNO
MNO and UM
rae and UM (PS UM voted for raekuul, not the other way around, gonna assume it was a typo)
If at least one MUST be a mafia, as per your rules, then MNOWAX and Undercover Monk make that equation work. So would raekuul and you. And yes UM and me. If anything, that proves that we should vote either you or Undercover monk, since all the combos mean at least one of you "must be mafia" in order to make it work.
That being said I'm not 100% opposed to an Undercover Monk lynch. Or Poison or raekuul if they do something 100% crazy. But your day 1 and early day 2 activity, accidental hammer, then now that you've finally made posts with content, they tend to be overzealous or use arguments like this that aren't strong. The only real reasons I wouldn't wanna vote for you are that A) you haven't lurked, B) at least you hated me day 1 as well, and C) Undercover Monk, who I also distrust, is willing to vote you.
PS, just did a quick day 1 skim again, and I noticed something that may bring raekuul into the spotlight a bit. At post 49 he takes his vote off me, after any attempts at bandwagoning me had fizzled. Then he throws some suspicion at UM, which MNOWAX leaps on. This gets Zag and UM on each other's cases, but the game stalls out with 2 votes on UM and one on Zag. raekuul then votes Zag, which sends enough followers (including MNOWAX) to hang him.
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Undercover Monk
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: 138 |
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well we can deaal with Raekuul or you or even me on day 3. Not removing my MNO vote unless something really crazy happens.
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:08 am Post subject: 139 |
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ya know lex, PLEASE vote for me. When I don't get quick lynched, it will be pretty obvious who is scum.
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lexprod
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:47 am Post subject: 140 |
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| ya know lex, PLEASE vote for me. When I don't get quick lynched, it will be pretty obvious who is scum. |
Not really, as it could still be both you and UM.
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lexprod
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:04 am Post subject: 141 |
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| well we can deaal with Raekuul or you or even me on day 3. Not removing my MNO vote unless something really crazy happens. |
Also we won't deal with anyone if mnowax is the wrong lynch, so I think this is a bit too dismissive
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject: 142 |
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the town has this game in the bag if we lynch Lex and UM. simple as that.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject: 143 |
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we have reached an impass. time to see where everyone is
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lexprod
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:55 pm Post subject: 144 |
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As promised:
Vote: MNOWAX
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Poisonium
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:11 pm Post subject: 145 |
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I also want to vote for MNOWAX, but since it'll end the day (and possibly the game), does anyone have anything to say before?
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:47 pm Post subject: 146 |
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well the fact that you have posted without voting pretty much confirmed you as a townie, otherwise you would have ended the game.
I'm pretty glad my nose was correct, even though it may have cost us the game.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:32 pm Post subject: 147 |
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or hes your scum buddy  but no nothing from me
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raekuul
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:27 pm Post subject: 148 |
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Why is it that the Latest Posts thing never shows me this thread?
I'm gonna bite the hook and vote: MNOWAX, as he seems to me as to be the most dangerous for the town. |
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:41 pm Post subject: 149 |
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gg scum. i'm pretty sure it was Monk and lex, maybe Rae and UM?
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sAbLLimINal
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:59 am Post subject: 150 |
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MNOWAX has been lynched, he was, again, a townie.
It is now Night 2. You have 72 hours to send in your actions. |
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sAbLLimINal
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:04 am Post subject: 151 |
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Everyone all wakes up, beginning to start another day.
It is now Day 3, with 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch. |
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lexprod
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:21 am Post subject: 152 |
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.....Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what? I can't be the only one who thought we were doomed, but I guess there's only one mafia? And we have a doc? or something completely different?
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raekuul
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:00 pm Post subject: 153 |
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*blink*
I'm not dead? |
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Undercover Monk
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: 154 |
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I don't know wouldn't a doc/maf combo favor town too much. I wonder if the scum chose not to kill to force us into a more difficult LoL situation. choosing from 4 is harder than 3 and we lose the info of a confirmed innocent.
any other ideas before we start slashing each others throats
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lexprod
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:15 pm Post subject: 155 |
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| PS, just did a quick day 1 skim again, and I noticed something that may bring raekuul into the spotlight a bit. At post 49 he takes his vote off me, after any attempts at bandwagoning me had fizzled. Then he throws some suspicion at UM, which MNOWAX leaps on. This gets Zag and UM on each other's cases, but the game stalls out with 2 votes on UM and one on Zag. raekuul then votes Zag, which sends enough followers (including MNOWAX) to hang him. |
Well I'm gonna open with asking raekuul to respond to this paragraph that was amongst one of my wall-o-texts from Day 2.
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lexprod
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: 156 |
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And since poisonium has never been in the hot seat: I'd like to point out he's managed to avoid voting since mid-page one.
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Poisonium
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:39 pm Post subject: 157 |
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First of all, surprise at no death. In my opinion, the clearly sole mafioso is trying to make us lynch today from 4 options instead of just 3. The obvious response is no lynch, though if that results in another no kill, we arrive at some kind of tie.
And I'm generally more fond of making a point through speech than vote, at least that's how it seemed optimal to me in this game.
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raekuul
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| Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:21 pm Post subject: 158 |
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| PS, just did a quick day 1 skim again, and I noticed something that may bring raekuul into the spotlight a bit. At post 49 he takes his vote off me, after any attempts at bandwagoning me had fizzled. Then he throws some suspicion at UM, which MNOWAX leaps on. This gets Zag and UM on each other's cases, but the game stalls out with 2 votes on UM and one on Zag. raekuul then votes Zag, which sends enough followers (including MNOWAX) to hang him. |
Well I'm gonna open with asking raekuul to respond to this paragraph that was amongst one of my wall-o-texts from Day 2. |
How am I supposed to respond? I'm not responsible for MNO's jumpiness. |
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lexprod
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| Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:31 pm Post subject: 159 |
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I guess the really weird part was that before your Zag vote you had two posts casting doubt at MNOWAX, and then instead of voting for him you put one on Zag without putting in your opinion on the case going for him.
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| In my opinion, the clearly sole mafioso is trying to make us lynch today from 4 options instead of just 3. The obvious response is no lynch, though if that results in another no kill, we arrive at some kind of tie. |
Hmm, I suppose it would be a stalemate if we no-lynched? I've never encountered a situation like this before.
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Poisonium
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| Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: 160 |
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The screen of my laptop broke. Until the laptop gets fixed, my activity will likely drop.
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Hmm, I suppose it would be a stalemate if we no-lynched? I've never encountered a situation like this before. |
It's a strange situation, where the "optimal" choice for both teams is not to kill. I suppose it's one of the few game design flaws of mafia.
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