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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:17 pm    Post subject: 81 Reply with quote

I like this pop culture thing. it allows scum to trip themselves up. Vote Zag
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: 82 Reply with quote

Ahhh, dead again on the first day. I really suck at being a townie. My goal this time was just to keep my head down and not say much, but I can't seem to do that, either.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:01 pm    Post subject: 83 Reply with quote

Not if I Unvote before the vote count... right?

If it doesn't work, then I guess you can't fight fate.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:09 pm    Post subject: 84 Reply with quote

Sorry, but once a majority has been reached he's lynched. Zag was just a townie.

It is now Night 1. You have 72 hours to send in your actions.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:14 pm    Post subject: 85 Reply with quote

Everyone all wakes up, except ralpmerridew who was just another townie.

Time for Day 2. Five alive means three to lynch.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: 86 Reply with quote

I will have limited access tomorrow.

Any cops got anything?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:40 pm    Post subject: 87 Reply with quote

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Not if I Unvote before the vote count... right?

If it doesn't work, then I guess you can't fight fate.


Anybody else find this extremely scummy? I know its raekuul but this looks like major distancing to me. FOS: Raekuul
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:00 pm    Post subject: 88 Reply with quote

ummm.... damn.....

please let there be a cop, please let there be a cop.....
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:34 pm    Post subject: 89 Reply with quote

MNOWAX wrote:
ummm.... damn.....

please let there be a cop, please let there be a cop.....


Looking for someone to distract from your hammer MNO?

Raekuul made a L-2 vote, ralphmerridew hopped on it for whatever reason (presumably pressure and/or to speed things up). Then before Zag says a thing, MNOWAX hangs him within 24 hours of raekuul's vote. This smells like a mafia alley-oop to me. Especially since neither had posted a reason, even if it was just "to move the game along."
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:57 am    Post subject: 90 Reply with quote

I knew I'd be FOS'd sooner or later. UM, I'd complain more if I hadn't outright said at the beginning of the game that we were bound to lynch a townie on day one. I guess I'm more useful to the scum alive than dead...

Which really puts me in a pickle. Those who are useful to the scum should be lynched so that the scum can't use them; however, my death would also be a step towards a scum win. (Granted, I'd argue that point regardless of my scumminess...) Either way, whatever happens to me is going to benefit the scum at this point... unless we manage to get a scum today.

I said I didn't like using a random vote when I made it, and when I realized that Zag was in the noose I tried to unvote. I'll have to remember that it's not "at next votecount" but "as soon as lynch is reached" here. Ralph probably (but I'm not certain about this) jumped on the votewagon because it was moving, and MNO provided the hammer (why?).

Specifically to UM: I said we'd end up lynching a townie on Day 1. Distancing, yes, but I also thought it'd be enough to prevent lynch. [meta] I don't check the GL as frequently as I did three years ago, so a lot will happen between my posts. [/meta]
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: 91 Reply with quote

It's my fault. no one should be blamed for Zag swinging but me. I didn't think i was the hammer, i thought we were going to put him at L-1.

I'm just a Townie, btw.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:38 am    Post subject: 92 Reply with quote

MNO: Then why not at least make it sound like you wanted more info out of zag with your vote? Plus, there was a vote count just one day before your vote, so I am assuming you are either scum, or don't bother reading posts before making your own. I'm going to FOS: MNOWAX formally now, but a vote's not far away if nothing else comes up as fishy as your hammer.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:15 am    Post subject: 93 Reply with quote

Current Vote Count:

Oh my bad. No one has voted yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:21 am    Post subject: 94 Reply with quote

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MNO: Then why not at least make it sound like you wanted more info out of zag with your vote? Plus, there was a vote count just one day before your vote, so I am assuming you are either scum, or don't bother reading posts before making your own. I'm going to FOS: MNOWAX formally now, but a vote's not far away if nothing else comes up as fishy as your hammer.


The bolded statement. Hey I deserve it, and should be lynched. However, we are likely in lynch or lose, and i am a townie.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:09 am    Post subject: 95 Reply with quote

Anyone disagree with an mnowax lynch? I'd throw my vote on now, but a bit hyper-paranoid about a mafia one-two hammer if there's 2/5 left, since they'd win with a mislynch. If anyone's got any cases they'd like to have heard on day 2, go for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:45 pm    Post subject: 96 Reply with quote

I can hear the singing rhythmic atonal recitation of "we're going to win"... Oh, wait, I left the movie playing...

All joking aside, I've got two arguments to make here that seem to contradict each other.

ON THE ONE HAND: Me, MNOWAX, and Ralph all put Zag in the noose. Me and MNO both claimed to be townies, leaving Ralph the only one not to claim one way or another. I voted before Ralph did, MNO after.

ON THE OTHER HAND: My instinct tells me that the scum has been letting us destroy ourselves with this infighting and back-and-forth arguing, allowing them to just hide among the other wallflowers while the loudest of us derail the game into one long "NO U".

ON THE THIRD, BIOLOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE HAND: Why is Lex leading us?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:55 pm    Post subject: 97 Reply with quote

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Anyone disagree with an mnowax lynch? I'd throw my vote on now, but a bit hyper-paranoid about a mafia one-two hammer if there's 2/5 left, since they'd win with a mislynch. If anyone's got any cases they'd like to have heard on day 2, go for it.


I more in favor of a Raekuul lynch. MNOWAX is behaving oddly but I think he is being taken of advantage of. soo... Vote:Raekuul
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: 98 Reply with quote

sAbLLimINal wrote:
Everyone all wakes up, except ralpmerridew who was just another townie.

Time for Day 2. Five alive means three to lynch.


I think this may be why ralphmerridew hasn't claimed, no?

Also I'm not really leading if no one's following.

Since UM is bringing up the case of raekuul again, I'll give him the same treatment as mno.

Post 66: raekuul says he'll focus on MNOWAX (granted early and he says without much reason so far)

Post 75: in the computer game reference raekuul votes Zag, saying amongst the flavortext "I don't like randomly voting, though"

Post 83: too little too late unvote

Day 2: "I said we'd end up lynching a townie on Day 1. Distancing, yes, but I also thought it'd be enough to prevent lynch. "

I don't think your post on day one really warned anyone that you didn't want to see a lynch yet, so even if that was your intention it was clearly lost somewhere.


And finally: raekuul -could- be right about the silent watching us point fingers at townies. That would leave UM or Pois, especially since Pois hasn't posted in 3 days, and I definitely won't vote until I hear something from him.

PS (I know long post): UM, at post 80 you commented on the weird post by raekuul, and Zag was at L-1. It had been a few days since you voted for him, were you hoping to hear something more from zag, or did you hope for him to just swing at that point?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:09 pm    Post subject: 99 Reply with quote

The Monk knows of which he speaks.

That being said. Why would you vote in LYLO without any discussion? Thank you for outing yourself.

Vote Undercover Monk
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: 100 Reply with quote

because I really thinks he is the scum. And better to get discussion going by voting then to let the game die.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: 101 Reply with quote

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[And finally: raekuul -could- be right about the silent watching us point fingers at townies. That would leave UM or Pois, especially since Pois hasn't posted in 3 days, and I definitely won't vote until I hear something from him.


I was sadly absent this weekend, and I did not, as planned, get to post my absense. That happens way too often, I'm thinking I should do this well in advance next time.

Anyway, my thoughts on the recent developments.

MNOWAX clearly committed a mistake. Assuming that he's scum, it can be fortunate to him. While I frankly believe that it was a mistake, something strikes me as quite odd about the way he apologises (I cannot put my finger on what). My prime candidate right now.

Lexprod makes some nice analysises. I don't really want to follow anyone other than myself, but he does make some sensible points (even if I don't necessarily agree with all of them).

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because I really thinks he is the scum. And better to get discussion going by voting then to let the game die.


And yet, Undercover Monk manages to sum up all of his thoughts in one very nice little post. It seems so honest to me, that Undercover Monk suddenly seems a lot less suspicious.

Raekuul is pointing fingers at the deceased ralphmerridew, which seems like a stupid beginners mistake. I'm thinking that this mistake could be made both as town and mafia. It could also be an elaborate maneuvre to distract us from more important matters, and drag time, eventually leading to an impatience lynch rather than one based on logic. I'm not entirely familiar with Raekuuls past playing history though.

In short, I suspect MNOWAX the most, but since Lexprod stated that he wanted my opinion, I figure that I should delay my own vote slightly. Also, I'm not really sure.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:05 am    Post subject: 102 Reply with quote

are the only active members in this game are scum? Monk is scum, no doubt about it. anyone who disagrees is his partner.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:20 am    Post subject: 103 Reply with quote

Ralph died? *looks up* Aw, drat. I guess I need to pay more attention to what I'm reviewing, then.

This is going to look like I'm pointing fingers in response to having fingers pointed at me, but I do not like that we are letting Lex lead us. We're probably not in possession of a cop (If we do have a cop: do NOT claim unless you get at least one confirmed Mafia), which means we're working entirely by deduction at this point. Undercover Monk has been a little too eager to start putting me in the noose than most would like, especially with the possibility that we had a 7(2) starting setup.

If UM is not mafia and there really are two mafia, then I'm as good as dead. What I'm afraid of is that the case may well be exactly that.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:16 am    Post subject: 104 Reply with quote

If leading is 'posting analysis and prompting discussion from the group' then how is that bad for the town?

I admit post 95 does come off as asking for an mnowax lynch, but I meant to pose it as more of a "I'd be voting him now if I could, what is everyone's thoughts?"

@Undercovermonk. Did you answer this in your post: UM, at post 80 you commented on the weird post by raekuul, and Zag was at L-1. It had been a few days since you voted for him, were you hoping to hear something more from zag, or did you hope for him to just swing at that point?
I can't tell if you were answering my post or MNOWAX's post.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:00 pm    Post subject: 105 Reply with quote

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I am so glad we are making clever pop culture references I am sure that will aid us in finding scum. Oh, Jiminy


How does this reference raekuul at all. In fact looking back it was you lexprod that started the popculture tangent. with your "lack of content i find disturbing" post. I was simply stating that we were straying too far from the game.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:44 pm    Post subject: 106 Reply with quote

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I am so glad we are making clever pop culture references I am sure that will aid us in finding scum. Oh, Jiminy


How does this reference raekuul at all. In fact looking back it was you lexprod that started the popculture tangent. with your "lack of content i find disturbing" post. I was simply stating that we were straying too far from the game.


I'm in agreement with this.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:39 am    Post subject: 107 Reply with quote

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I am so glad we are making clever pop culture references I am sure that will aid us in finding scum. Oh, Jiminy


How does this reference raekuul at all. In fact looking back it was you lexprod that started the popculture tangent. with your "lack of content i find disturbing" post. I was simply stating that we were straying too far from the game.


My question is not about how you felt about raekuul at the time. What's important was that you were logged in, and posted, when zag was at L-1. Did you A: know that this was the case? B:want to keep it that way to pressure a zag reaction, or to get a zag lynch?

I admit I had also logged in at that time and could have just as easily said "hey zag's at minus one hold off." However you could have unvoted, to actually help everyone take a step back and let zag talk before mno sadly jumped on it.

Stop commenting on my question and tell me what I want to know or we'll be here all day until MNOWAX mislynches on accident again.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: 108 Reply with quote

lol WHOA WAIT How do you know its a mislynch lex?

Thank you scum! they have been very helpful in outing themselves this game, dontcha think?

I think you are scum too UM, but thanks to lex outing himself, i like his neck to swing first

unvote, Vote Lexprod
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: 109 Reply with quote

Objection!

I may dislike Lex leading the discussion, but he has been keeping us in motion. MNO, you've been jumping down everybody's throats. He said again because it was your vote that mislynched yesterday.

I may suspect Lex and UM, but you're probably the jumpiest of us all. Why is that?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: 110 Reply with quote

I was unaware at the time that Zag was at L-1. It was day 1 after all basically a crap shoot. On the one hand it may be worth a shot to lynch MNOWAX and hope that the crazy man really is scum.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:48 pm    Post subject: 111 Reply with quote

MUWAHAHAHA the crazy man is the only one telling the truth! point the finger at me scum buddies your number is MINE!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: 112 Reply with quote

and Raekuul I am jumping around to find tells. Twice the scum have made mistakes because of my jumping. Lex and UM are the scum pair no doubt about it anymore. UM thought i would jump on when he voted for someone on day two, because that's all i did on day one, so the scum could squeeze hammer and win.

When I pointed it out, Lex had the alternate plan of getting me to swing because, look at me, I could be easily construed as an easy target after lynching the townie Zag. It will all be a matter of who is willing to look at my line of reasoning and lynch the scum that I have found.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject: 113 Reply with quote

I don't like how self-assured MNOWAX suddenly seems.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: 114 Reply with quote

MNOWAX, it was a dig on your performance yesterday. I was flustered that UM kept ignoring the actual point of my question, so I made a mean jab at you. I think you can see that everyone else perceived my comment in a much more harmless way than you have interpreted it.

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When I pointed it out, Lex had the alternate plan of getting me to swing because, look at me, I could be easily construed as an easy target after lynching the townie Zag. It will all be a matter of who is willing to look at my line of reasoning and lynch the scum that I have found.


Earlier this round I asked if anyone would oppose an MNOWAX lynch. That was because the game hadn't picked up yet, and this was a direct way to get all players involved, lay a little pressure on you, and without putting a vote on you. So in that way I think I took the safest route to get the game moving again, a town move.

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and Raekuul I am jumping around to find tells. Twice the scum have made mistakes because of my jumping. Lex and UM are the scum pair no doubt about it anymore. UM thought i would jump on when he voted for someone on day two, because that's all i did on day one, so the scum could squeeze hammer and win.


So your strategy was to be hyper bandwaggony on day 1 so to encourage an early vote on day 2? I can slightly understand more your behavior, now, though hopefully you'll be more expressive of your logic in the future.

On the other hand, UM's comment was probably the most violent reaction to MNOWAX's vote on me. So that's a point toward UM scum.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:59 pm    Post subject: 115 Reply with quote

Vote Count:
raekuul (1) - Undercover Monk
lexprod (1) - MNOWAX
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:25 am    Post subject: 116 Reply with quote

I really have no idea who is scum. I am pretty certain Poisonium is town. But beyond that its a crapshoot between Raekuul who I only have a vague uneasieness from his first post of the day. MNOWAX who plain freaks me out right now definately portraying some character. and lexprod who has kinda taken charge of day 2. The safest lynch right now I believe to be MNOWAX as if he is town we lose the least.

[Meta]
If we do have 2 scum left then it is probable we have both a doc and a cop to balance so pick wisely gentlemen.


Unvote, Vote: MNOWAX
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:00 am    Post subject: 117 Reply with quote

Undercover Monk wrote:
I really have no idea who is scum. I am pretty certain Poisonium is town. But beyond that its a crapshoot between Raekuul who I only have a vague uneasieness from his first post of the day. MNOWAX who plain freaks me out right now definately portraying some character. and lexprod who has kinda taken charge of day 2. The safest lynch right now I believe to be MNOWAX as if he is town we lose the least.

[Meta]
If we do have 2 scum left then it is probable we have both a doc and a cop to balance so pick wisely gentlemen.


Unvote, Vote: MNOWAX



THERE IS NO SAFE LYNCH! If this game doesn't have two scum in it, I'll eat my hat. That means we are in LYLO. EVEN if we had a doc, and you lynch me ( a townie) the scum will stall out the voting untill they kill sucessfully and win. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING????
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: 118 Reply with quote

A man was walking one day when he came to a fork in the road. He met an a friend there whose advive he knew he could count on. When asked why he was not taking one of the forks the friend said that both routes were very dangerous. One crossed a deadly swamp filled with quicksand, poisonus snakes, and crocodiles. No one had survived this trek. The other was a treachourous mountain path known for its randomn rock slides. Only about half of the travelers survieved it. Now neither of these paths are safe. Butt which my clever MNOWAX is the safest. And which should you if you must move ahead.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:48 pm    Post subject: 119 Reply with quote

Thats funny, the safest lynch would be to lynch lex, then you so the town can win.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: 120 Reply with quote

UM, are you suggesting that you know which of us are scum?
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