10 Year Reunion: Game Over!

[HyToFry]

I've decided to link Luna, Amb, and IS together. This "oh noes, I don't have internets" excuse is plausable, but it sure would make a good cover story.

[HyToFry]

Oh. Wait. I forget the rules of Mafia. Are sarcasm tags allowed?
I think I shall go read up on that now.

[Elayne]

Alfie, if you are pointing fingers of suspicion at people who have not said much, you need to add firemeboy to your list. He has only posted once, back on the 22nd

[L'lanmal]

[sarcasm]Oh, sarcasm tags are totally illegal, you are about to be mod-killed, Hy.[/sarcasm]

[CzarJ]

[mith]

Deadline: Approximately 5 days from this post.

Vote Count: 8 to lynch.

Alfie: 3 (Quailman, L'lanmal, Elayne)
Elayne: 2 (Amb, Alfie)
Amb: 1 (mole)
CzarJ: 1 (Dragon Phoenix)
Dragon Phoenix: 1 (Antrax)
firemeboy: 1 (CzarJ)
Internet Stranger: 1 (firemeboy)
L'lanmal: 1 (HyToFry)
Sofis: 1 (Internet Stranger)

Not Voting: 3 (Courk, Luna, Sofis)

[Amb]

Where did everyone go?

Courk, Luna and Sofis, can you please make your votes or outline a reason for not doing so?

[Alfie]

Yup, FoS at firemeboy, too. Quietude begets suspicion, imo.

And I'm saying that if whoever is lynched isn't scum (which is statistically probable), then the motives of the people voting for that person will be called into question. People with no good reason to have voted for that person will be put into suspicion. Since Elayne has given me the most motive to vote her (in preference to others), I'll point the finger at her.

Mostly, though, I'm tossing an argument into the air to stir things up. It doesn't seem to be working. And, yeah, the logic isn't particularly excellent. But, hey, it's what I've got to work with. If we don't have some discussion going, then our second or third round lynches won't be any more accurate than our first. Of course, I expect the mafia knows (or can reasonably deduce) this, so I suspect automatically anybody that isn't posting thoughts and reasons of substance. If certain people stay quiet long enough, I'll take my vote from pointing at the relatively arbitrary Elayne and point it at them.

Of course, I could have the whole strategy backwards. It's been quite some time since I played mafia. Feel free to enlighten me.

[Antrax]

[Quailman]

unvote: Alfie

I voted him under the lynch-the-lurkers premise, and if anything, that applies to me much more than him in this game. On day one, there's nothing to go on, and as I read the nothing posts that people make, I sometimes forget that I have not been making any myself.

I've also been leery of changing my vote too often, as that has brought suspicion to bear on me in past games. Since this is Mafia, and voting to lynch people is what we do, I will cast my vote in a different direction. I'll pick one of those who is not currently voting, becasue none of the others capture my attention.

vote: Courk

[Luna]

[mith]

Deadline: Approximately 3.5 days from this post.

Vote Count: 8 to lynch.

Alfie: 2 (L'lanmal, Elayne)
Elayne: 2 (Amb, Alfie)
firemeboy: 2 (CzarJ, Luna)
Amb: 1 (mole)
Courk: 1 (Quailman)
CzarJ: 1 (Dragon Phoenix)
Dragon Phoenix: 1 (Antrax)
Internet Stranger: 1 (firemeboy)
L'lanmal: 1 (HyToFry)
Sofis: 1 (Internet Stranger)

Not Voting: 2 (Courk, Sofis)

[Elayne]

Unless some of the people who have been lurking or with limited access start posting, I am not sure any one person will end up with the needed 8 votes to lynch at the current pace. Since I am on a break, I don't have time to look through all the appropriate threads to see if that means no lynch, or the person with the highest number of votes at deadline.

As far as lynching one of the lurkers, it's an option I would consider. Mith, at what point would you consider replacing someone? Firemeboy has only posted once, compared to most of the lurkers who have at least posted 3 or 4 times.

[Elayne]

Okay mafia is more fun then work. I found it on the first page. Person with most votes is lynched if no majority

[Dragon Phoenix]

Lurker lynching always worked for me (I was there at the pika incident).

Unvote czarj
Vote firemeboy
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[Amb]

Despite the small lull, discussion has actually been good. Does anyone else like me think it worth requesting to extend the deadline. I'm not convinced that 3.5 days is enough time. And while I think Day 1 is usually a bad lynch bar luck or stupidity - the one good counter to this is "more time", provided it is coupled with discussion.

Lurker lynching isn't any better overall than random lynching. It could just as easily be a low lying doctor as a mafia scumlord or innocent confused townie. If the player continues to lurk they become a liability.

[CzarJ]

I think a deadline extension would be in order. I was just myself thinking that 3.5 days was going to sneak up on us rather fast.

[Sofis]

I'm not voting on account of being a big old softy. Can't we all just be friends?

No, I suppose not.

Since we're discussing lurking, I thought I'd do some post counting. The number of posts per person, including this post:

[CzarJ]

A post count, eh? The ultimate way to appear helpful without actually being helpful...

I kid, I kid. I think.

[Amb]

I could have sworn I read more of FMB than that - but there it is - in its one post glory.

Firstly, Vote Deadline Extension

In the event that NO deadline ext is given, I will change my vote to FMB.

[Quailman]

vote: deadline extension

unvote: Courk; vote: Firemeboy

[mith]

Deadline: 65 hours from this post.

Vote Count: 8 to lynch.

firemeboy: 5 (CzarJ, Luna, Dragon Phoenix, Sofis, Quailman)
Alfie: 2 (L'lanmal, Elayne)
Elayne: 2 (Amb, Alfie)
Amb: 1 (mole)
Dragon Phoenix: 1 (Antrax)
Internet Stranger: 1 (firemeboy)
L'lanmal: 1 (HyToFry)
Sofis: 1 (Internet Stranger)

Not Voting: 1 (Courk)

Deadlines are not up for vote; the sun waits for no man. Anyone who hasn't posted in the past three days has been prodded.

[Amb]

Unvote; Vote Firemeboy

[Alfie]

Unvote: Elayne
Vote: firemeboy

[CzarJ]

Unvote: firemeboy. Pressure's still on, and I won't be unhappy with an FMB lynch the way things have been going, but I don't like to see a man be one vote away from lynching when he hasn't gotten to defend himself. That's just asking for someone who hasn't been keeping track since the last vote count to put him over on accident.

[CzarJ]

P.S. FOS: Alfie. You've already been arousing suspicion; is it really necessary to be the penultimate vote on a lurker bandwagon?

[L'lanmal]

I have been prodded...

I am maintaining my vote for Alfie.

I do not find firemeboy's lurking especially scummy, given his overall rate of GL posting lately. If anything, I am more inclined to look at the top of Sofis's post count (which I found at least as useful as the average post) than the bottom. This is more-or-less in agreement with HyToFry that many people find playing as mafia more exciting than playing as town. I agree if someone posts like mad elsewhere and is unusually silent here, they might be lying low; I'm not quite to believing this on firemeboy yet.

On the other hand, if fmb never participates, and a true majority is needed for a lynch, it will eventually make it easier for the mafia to deadlock the days and kill us all at night. So start paying attention firemeboy, please, or else I'll feel we are perfectly justified in lynching you.

A light FOS on amb for high activity, bandwagoning just before Alfie, and being historically difficult to lynch. DP gets a minor pass on this from me since he referenced the (admittedly hilarious) experiment of a win by never posting all game.

[Alfie]

Eh, is the penultimate vote specially relevant? It's not the final vote or anything.

Err... I seem to have a post missing...

There. I found it in my history of being typed in, but not on the page. I guess the submit timed out and I didn't notice. Not that it is of great significance, but it does explain the previous terseness:

[firemeboy]

Hmmmm, I seem to have mis-remembered the GL settings. I got an update that somebody had posted to this thread, I came back to read it, and then I thought by my visiting the site I would be updated again once it had changed.

And I'm afraid I'm not in the habit of visiting the GL like I was ten years ago. But I'd like to continue in the game, and commit to visiting more often.

In an attempt to show my commitment to the game, I'm happy to answer any questions you want to pose to me. I promise I'll answer truthfully to at least half of them.
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[Elayne]

So let me make sure I have this straight, your excuse for not posting in over a week was because you didn't get an alert saying there had been posts in the mafia game? You really thought that no posts in a mafia game in over eight days is plausible?

[Chaz]

I think his point is more that he didn't think he had to think about it.

I've seen nothing to convince me to change my vote... I find it interesting that LL (the person whom my logic applies) agrees with my logic.

[firemeboy]

The latter. It's not that I didn't think anything was being said, it's that it completely slipped my mind.

I should point out that while I was in the first mafia game, I think I may have been in a grand total of 2, maybe 3 games all together. And any other game I played would have been shortly after the first one. In other words I haven't played that many, and I haven't played in almost a decade.

Color me a inexperienced, but inexperience doesn't = mafia.
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[Amb]

[firemeboy]

Is there a way to sign up for updates to a thread without posting every time?
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[Antrax]

"Watch this topic for replies" or the option in your profile that says so (and then don't uncheck the "Notify me when a reply is posted" at the bottom of the posting screen) will do it.

That being said, traditionally when you're at near-lynch, the implied question is "what is your role?". With a rigid deadline and nothing else likely to pop up, this is the only tidbit of information that has any chance of diverting enough votes. And in case I'm being too obtuse: I will switch to voting you if you don't role claim.
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[CzarJ]

Vote: Alfie
FOS: Antrax

I've seen more confusing and scummy behavior from Alfie than I have FMB, who seems more befuddled than guilty. To demand a roleclaim from him at this point, whether a deadline is approaching or not, seems like a little much.

[Antrax]

Not IMO. I was actually toying around with the idea of suggesting a mass-claim, but I have serious doubts mith would have set up a game where that would help the town. In any case, not everyone agrees (DP doesn't. But he's scum), but generally claiming when close to a lynch is a pro-town action. Leaving people who have claimed alone early on is very low risk: without weird roles in the mix, only a serial killer type is important to lynch ASAP. There's also something to be gained: as information is gathered, it's easier to evaluate the truthfulness of the claim. So, I generally claim when under pressure even on day 1, and prefer others to do so as well.
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[mole]

So, why the switch in the bandwagon so close to the deadline? What's changed? firemeboy showed up, yes, but barely did anything more than that.

My vote stays on Amb for now. I'll join Antrax in expecting a role-claim from firemeboy though.

[Alfie]

I am mildly puzzled as to why my behaviour is considered scummy. I'll admit to not having played mafia in many years, but isn't encouraging discussion a good thing?

[firemeboy]

Yeah, I didn't uncheck the Notify me when a reply is posted, but I think you're only notified once, then you have to post again to get another notification.

Mole: Well, I showed up and offered to answer any questions with at least 50% accuracy. That has to count for something, right?

I've only seen one question, and that question was only "implied". I'll answer it anyway with two official statements ruled by my 50% criteria. Feel free to keep a running tally (assuming I live long enough to generate a tally).

I am mafia.
The above statement is false.

Yeah, that would have been more clever is this place wasn't filled with puzzle geniuses. On a regular forum, that may have caused a few people to pause.
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