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Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:19 am    Post subject: 1

I'll accept the first 11 entries. To enter, send me a PM with the make and model of the new, 2010 passenger vehicle you choose to buy. (No, you can't buy a fire truck, nor the vehicle that used to carry the space shuttles out to the launch pad.) They have to be actual manufactured vehicles which are generally for sale, not concept cars that are only available at auto shows.

You must also send me a link (or links) that give the following three data points. If you can't find this info on the web somewhere that seems more reliable than your own Facebook page, the choose a different car.

List price (MSRP) You can use the starting MSRP, or completely configure a car using the manufacturer's web tools, and give me that one. However, this is only valid if you can give me a link to the configured car.

Miles per gallon, city

Engine size (liters, cc, or C.I.D. I'll convert.)

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I will take the three sets of data points and sort the entries by each one. For each sorting arrangement, points will be distributed this way:

 Code: Position   Points Highest     1        3             2        1             3        0             4        1             5        2             6        5             7        2             8        1             9        0            10        1 Lowest     11        3

So, your car might be 4th when sorted by price, 9th when sorted by engine size, and 7th when sorted by MPG, so you will get a total of 3 points (1 point for your 4th place and 2 points for your 7th place).

If there are ties in the sorting, the points for those positions will be divided equally. So, if three people tie for highest MPG, then each will get 4/3 points for that category. So the strategy is either to be at one end or the other, or right in the middle. Of course, that precious spot is strongly determined by which way other people try to go.

Most points wins!
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

 Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject: 2 Entries from Quailman and Sentran so far.
referee
June 21st, 2004 Member

 Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: 3 11 entries? That's ridiculous. It's not even funny._________________Jan 21st, 2008: The pillaging continues. Mar 4th, 2008: Rest in Peace, Gary Gygax. May your dice always roll a natural 20 wherever you are. Be the Ultimate Ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today!
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

 Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:50 pm    Post subject: 4 Eh? I'm not sure I understand your point. Most of these single entry games have no trouble getting 10 entries, but I wanted an odd number. Anyway, also received from MattV.
jbvntx
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: 5 Not to be pedantic, but could you please clarify "passenger vehicle?" at least a little bit more? Does that mean driver + at least one passenger? Does it have to be a car or truck (no motorcycles, scooters, amphibious boats, etc)?_________________jbv
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

 Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject: 6 Hmmm. I have to say that I was thinking just car or pick-up truck, but I suppose motorcycles would have to be included, as well. Something that you could by at a dealer who sells such things, isn't built for a specific purpose (i.e. not a dump truck, fire engine, or semi-trailer tractor), and that you would realistically drive on the highway (so not a scooter). How's that? If this changes anyone's submission who has already sent one in, that's ok. Just send a new submission before I reach 11.Last edited by Zag on Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:34 pm; edited 1 time in total
Jaguar
Daedalian Member

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:19 pm    Post subject: 7

 referee wrote: 11 entries? That's ridiculous. It's not even funny.

ROFL. That was perfect! And totally worth a "worthless gewgaw". I'm sure I have some of those laying around.
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

 Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:38 pm    Post subject: 8 Is there some joke I'm not getting? Anyway, entries received from jbvntx and HyToFry, making 5 so far. Jaguar, maybe you'd like to buy a car, perhaps something British?
Chaz
Vote: Zag

 Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: 9 In Utah (at least) a passenger vehicle would be any Class D vehicle. Apparently the same is true of Tennessee based on a quick Google search of class d http://tn.gov/safety/driverlicense/classd.htm
Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:11 am    Post subject: 10

 Chaz wrote: In Utah (at least) a passenger vehicle would be any Class D vehicle.

This is true in most states. I've dealt with vehicle titles from most of them.
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

 Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: 11 That's six entries so far. I'm a little surprised it has taken this long; these games usually fill up quickly. Anyway, we've passed the halfway point. Pick your favorite new auto and jump in!!
Jaguar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: 12 It's a Kingdom of Loathing reference, Zag. As for an entry, I'll think about it OK, entry sent.
referee
June 21st, 2004 Member

 Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:53 am    Post subject: 13 Yeah, I see how it can sound rude, I apologize for that._________________Jan 21st, 2008: The pillaging continues. Mar 4th, 2008: Rest in Peace, Gary Gygax. May your dice always roll a natural 20 wherever you are. Be the Ultimate Ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today!
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

 Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:50 am    Post subject: 14 No, I wasn't offended. I was pretty sure it was a joking reference to something I didn't recognize. I'm way harder to offend than that. (Not that you should try, now.)
PuzzleScot
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:16 am    Post subject: 15 bump?
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:17 am    Post subject: 16

I have 9 entries. Just two more to go!!
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 Death Mage wrote: I couldn't agree with you more, Zag.
Quailman
His Postmajesty

 Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: 17 Bump.
Trojan Horse
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: 18 Just so this game can have a winner... /sent No strategy on my part. I just picked something.
Chaz
Vote: Zag

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:08 am    Post subject: 19

 Trojan Horse wrote: Just so this game can have a winner... /sent No strategy on my part. I just picked something.

I don't know if you meant that to be haughty, but I read it as such and burst out loling.
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The enemy's base is down.
Trojan Horse
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:52 am    Post subject: 20 Ooh. I guess it could've been interpreted that way. LOL I meant that I entered so that there would be a winner, as opposed to the game just dying. I didn't mean that I would be the winner.
Chaz
Vote: Zag

 Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:01 am    Post subject: 21 *bump*_________________The enemy's base is down.
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

 Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:17 am    Post subject: 22 Oh, sorry. I meant to work this out this weekend. I'll get to it by Tuesday, I promise.
Trojan Horse
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: 23 Which Tuesday?
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

 Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: 24 Sorry. This week has been tough. It'll happen soon, really.
Chaz
Vote: Zag

 Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: 25 Just declare T.H. the winner. I don't care if he meant it that way; it's a lot funnier to read it that way._________________The enemy's base is down.
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:24 am    Post subject: 26

Results!! Congrats to HyToFry (a.k.a. Chaz)!

We only had 10 )entries, so I added one. I put mine in first, but I had glanced at all the entries when I received them, so I can't quite claim complete lack of knowledge. In any case, I just picked my wife's car, but without the wheelchair modifications (which are another \$25,000). I was going to choose my car, but it's a Saturn so there are no 2010 models.

Sentran managed to score a zero, which is quite a feat! There are only 2 zero positions on each scoring, so you only have a 18% chance to get a zero in one column, and only a 0.6% chance of getting one in all three! Well done!

 Code: Rank  Person     MPG Points    Engine Points     Price Points    Total Points 1     HyToFry        3.5           5                 2           10.5 2     Lexprod        1             1                 5            7 3     PuzzleScot     2             2                 3            7 4     MatthewV       3             3                 1            7 5     Trojan Horse   3.5           1                 1            5.5 6     Zag            1             2                 2            5 7     Jaguar         2             2                 1            5 8     Jbvntx         0             1                 3            4 9     SabLLimINal    2             2                 0            4 10    Quailman       1             0                 1            2 11    Sentran        0             0                 0            0

Last edited by Zag on Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:41 am; edited 2 times in total
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:29 am    Post subject: 27

Raw data. Sorry, I haven't formatted this. Feel free.

 Code: Person        Car Quailman      Smart fortwo pure coupe Sentran       Lamborghini Murcielago LP670-4 SV Coupe MatthewV      Tesla Roadster Jbvntx        Tata Nano. HyToFry       Chevrolet Impala PuzzleScot    Bugatti Veyron Super Sport Jaguar        Bugatti Veyron SabLLimINal   Ford focus sedan Lexprod       Toyota Prius Trojan Horse  Ford Mustang v6 Coupe Zag           Chrysler Town & Country 4-door Touring Plus Van Person       MPG   Engine   Price Quailman      33   1         \$11,990 Sentran        9   6.5      \$508,030 MatthewV     120   0        \$109,000 Jbvntx        50   0.623      \$2,500 HyToFry       18   3.5       \$25,555 PuzzleScot     8   7.993  \$2,497,160 Jaguar         8   7.993  \$1,250,000 SabLLimINal   25   2         \$16,640 Lexprod       51   1.8       \$26,600 Trojan Horse  18   4         \$21,395 Zag           16   3.8       \$26,860
PuzzleScot
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:26 am    Post subject: 28 Thanks for the results. So a Chevy Impala beats a Lamborghini Murcielago? I thought that only happened on Top Gear! Was that the longest shortest game in GL history?_________________http://www.ukpuzzles.org/
Jaguar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:10 pm    Post subject: 29 I thought about the Lamborghini at first and then went with the Bugatti Veyron. I was thinking least fuel efficient and see I wasn't the only one. I should have added the Super Sport, but wasn't thinking about that Grats Hy!
PuzzleScot
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:42 pm    Post subject: 30 I'm surprised the fuel economy of the SS is the same as the regular Veyron given it's extra power. I had hoped to be superlative in all categories, but hoping no-one went for the Dodge Viper, with it's 8.4l V10! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_superlatives_________________http://www.ukpuzzles.org/
Chaz
Vote: Zag

 Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: 31 w00t!_________________The enemy's base is down.
lexprod
NOT not a title

 Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:38 pm    Post subject: 32 This is officially the best I've ever done in a single-submit, so color me surprised! Silly me, not thinking of crazy cars like the volt or tesla (though i guess the volt is still not out yet). I was shooting for high-low-middle, and I guess getting exact middle was almost enough to take it ! _________________I'll have a P please...
Chaz
Vote: Zag

 Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: 33 Honestly, I Googled "Full Size Car" clicked the first link (a wiki article) scrolled down to "recent full size cars" and picked the one that was sticking out. I figured if Google thought it was average, then it probably is._________________The enemy's base is down.
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