Johnny Depp Mafia: [Game Over]

[KradDrol]

[Chaz]

[Sniklac16]

Personally i think the fact Zag is trying to justify the reason someone voted for him is suspicious so ill unvote vote Zag for now anyways
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[Dragon Phoenix]

Every post Chaz made after his first strengthens my opinion. Vote stays.
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[MNOWAX]

He's scum. Lynch him. Unvote, Vote Chaz.
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MNOWAX

[Chaz]

Meh. I'll wager a guess that DP isn't actually reading the posts... I've noticed that he's not overly diligent in his mafia post reading.

Currently the three most suspicious folks in the thread are:

sAb, Silversunet, and Zag.
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[Quailman]

Psst...

Silverfire <> Silversunset

[Silverfire]

Uhh, thanks, Quail, I was trying to make head or tail of "Silversunet."
Anyway, I must have been on crack at the time of my last post, as I was trying to say that Chaz's actions are the kind of thing that can be off-putting, and might make a player feel like Chaz is scummy, but I think they're really more characteristic of a townie. I apologize for the mistake.

[Chaz]

Ah. In an advisory (as opposed to considering) capacity, your post makes sense and doesn't seem scummy to me anymore.

Assuming, of course, it wasn't a Freudian slip. For now, I withdraw my suspicion of Silverfire. Also, sorry about goofing up your name.
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[Undercover Monk]

[MNOWAX]

hEY! I lasted two days! TWO! This is how i tend to play. Sorry UM!

anyway, I'm up for a Chaz Lynch. If nothing else, then its Day 1. LET'S DO THIS!
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MNOWAX

[Chaz]

Yup. FOS: MNOWAX for that. Eagerness to get through the first day (and to the first night) is generally a scummy tell. A hard one too. There isn't any good reason for town to rush day one.
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[Chaz]

I just looked at MNOWAX's posts. They all seem a bit scumish to me.

Unvote; Vote: MNOWAX
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[MNOWAX]

heh, OMGUS much?

Getting more happy with a Chaz vote, he claims that he doesn't want to rush day one, then double posts to change his FoS to a vote. take your own advice if you believe in it scum.
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MNOWAX

[Sentran]

Can't we all just get along?
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[Sniklac16]

I must agree with chaz , the fact MNO is so eager to get to night seems very scummy...Then again the fact that he is jumping around to different players trying to get the focus on several people is scummy as well. For now though ill stick with my vote.
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[sAbLLimINal]

Chaz how do you go from Zag and me to MNOWAX so fast? You posted an FOS and then 2 minutes later decide to vote him.

Right now, I'm not that much surprised about MNOWAX.

[Zag]

Although I was the one to point out Chaz's suspicious behavior, I have to say that I hardly think it worthy of an immediate lynching. It was enough to put a little pressure on him, but MNO has gone too far, which is a little suspicious. Then again, this is pretty typical behavior for MNO, so I don't put too much weight on it. I still find Chaz more suspicious, for reasons I've said before and I repeat below.

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Silverfire, I have to disagree with you. Generally townies are joking around at first, and not trying to draw conclusions because there is so little data. It is the mafia who are trying so hard to get suspicion aimed at someone else that they are serious right away. This varies, of course, from player to player, so the best approach is to see how that particular player behaved in a different game.

Chaz was already claiming FOS based on the very first post in this game, one which was obviously a joke, anyway. To compare to his own past behavior, the only one I have found in which Chaz was a player from the beginning (admittedly, not looking all that hard) is the 10-year reunion game. (Note that he was still using the name 'HyToFry' at the start of that game, but it's the same person.) In that game, he was joking around, too, and it was not until late on the first page that he started to get analytical. (He was innocent in that game.)

Even so, that first action by Chaz was only enough for an FOS from me. It was his later hyper-defensiveness followed by a desperate attempt to throw suspicion around, looking for someone else on which it might stick, that pushed me far enough to vote. Just over halfway through the second page and he's already accused three people and voted for two.

Even with all this, I wouldn't want to see a quick lynching, and I would unvote if it looked like that was going to happen. I'd like to see his feet to the fire, but but that's it, so far. MNO has gone overboard.

[Amb]

Im going to try find a replacement for io_sambo_oi as he hasnt picked up his PM at all, and his sign up post was his only post on the GL.

Edit: His role will remain alive until the end of the day. If no replacement is found, he will be modkilled.

[Sentran]

I would like to point out that while MNO is appearing to be quick on the trigger, his ambition and desire for momentum does not strike me as suspicious as the behaviors of Chaz. Chaz still has my suspicion, but I'm not willing to vote yet. Since he's already placed 2 FOS's himself, I'm wondering if this post will get me one as well.
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[Chaz]

[Chaz]

Sorry, I started that post right after MNOWAX posted.
I'll address your points as quickly as I can (I'm socializing as well.)

@Snik: Am I jumping that much? *shrug* I don't disagree with your logic for sure.

@sAb: two minutes was all I really needed to look at MNO's three posts. (@everyone: is he usually this quiet? I really don't know MNO that well.)

@Zag: Your logic is solid, but I think it should be pointed out that you were finding me scummy in a game where you were scum. Using that logic to support your reasons in this game probably isn't the greatest of ideas. Also... I think you read me a lot more serious than I am. I don't take strong stances about things unless I'm positive about them. I would definitely say that MNOWAX is the most likely candidate for scum, but there isn't anyway you could get me to say that he is scum. i don't know. I don't have a clue. I just know that he's eager to get somebody lynched, and that reeks of scum.

@Sentran: Your logic is solid as a rock... but I'm not acting strange. I just am generally strange.
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[Zag]

Umm, huh?

I'm using evidence from a game in which I was scum, but I didn't find you scummy over there, I find you scummy here. In fact, the hyper-defensive stance you took (here) reminded me a lot of my own behavior in that other game, and Mackay correctly crucified me for it. I was Mafia there, and I suspect that you are here.

[Chaz]

Eh. That's what I mean by "you read me a lot more serious than I am."
Notably, the parts where you say I was "hyper-defensiveness" followed by a "desperate attempt to throw suspicion around." I'm just not that intense about a game of mafia. I only get adamant about things when I'm sure about them.

As I remember it, you thought I was slightly scummier and linked to CzarJ (until my awesomely crazy theory left everyone pretty sure that I was innocent.) However...

I guess I misread your post, and agree that your logic (now that you've clarified it for me) is solid. I still wouldn't advise voting for me ('cuz that would be ridiculous), but I do agree with the logic in your reasoning. I still think MNO is the obvious target for fire feet right now though.
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[Chaz]

Also, I've only placed one FOS (for MNO, who I later voted for) and voted for Zag. The FOS I put toward SIlver was a legitimate FOS, but I revoked it when Silver explained her(?)himself. Although, I do admit that would still weigh it in (as a possible Freudian slip) if SIlver were to act scummy later on.
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[Undercover Monk]

[Undercover Monk]

[MNOWAX]

Can anyone pipe up and tell me who else is scum?

hi UM. *waves* *points to noose* you're next.
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MNOWAX

[Amb]

Mackay replaces IO_SAMBO_OI

[Sniklac16]

[MNOWAX]

Dont even bother. I have my feeling that it is chaz.
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[Sentran]

If MNO is not scum he's borderline suicidal.
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Zag]

Well, he is, but this seems over the top, even for him. But I'm going to wait and see what Mackay has to say.

Welcome, Mackay!!

[Amb]

4. Chaz (Dragon Phoenix, Zag, Quailman, MNOWAX)
3. MNOWAX (Chaz, Undercover Monk, Sniklac16)
1. sAbLLimINal (ralphmerridew)

Not voting: Mackay, Kraddrol, Sentran, Silverfire

Let me know of any errors. I hurried this one a bit as I wont be around later today.

[Mackay]

Well, I signed up suspecting I was about to be killed off in my other game, and here I am

...

Anyway, I think when MNO said "other scum" he meant other than UM, who he was accusing of being evil. Nonetheless, I think that he or Chaz are probably the best lynches today, simply due to the fact that lynching them will strengthen our town whether or not they are evil. I don't know MNO but his style appears completely bereft of analysis, and Chaz goes to the other extreme of dribbling incessantly about unhelpful stuff that he thinks is brilliant and muddying the waters.

I'm going to vote: Chaz - partly day-1-no-information-bandwagoning, partly personal vendetta, but mostly:

[Mackay]

It occurs to me that maybe chaz meant role names, specifically, but I think he's played enough mafia to recognise when his fancy-named role has a bog-standard description, so I don't give the thought much weight.

[Chaz]

Firstly: Welcome Mackay. I love playing Mafia with you. [/obvioussuckiknguptothenewsenator]

[nowontothegame]
I agree with your logic at the start of your post. MNO and Chaz are the currently obvious choices for day 1 pressure. I also don't know MNO, but it sounds like he's a less inflammatory version of IS (which always comes of scummy to me.) You know me; you know my style.

Where you lose me is the part after this:

[Mackay]

I mean, if you had a standard role with a fancy name/flavour text, you would still recognise that your role was essentially a standard one. (AFAIK, everyone's role has a special name - mine does, but my role description is that of a standard role.)

I think I have misinterpreted though, I for some reason read it as your saying that all the roles were non-standard. Vote stays anyway, because what the hell.

[KradDrol]

[Mackay]

Nothing game-related. Just an argument from elsewhere that I'm pissed about.