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Poisonium
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:54 pm    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

The kind used to communicate with other human beings.

I was just wondering how many languages you folks speak.

As for me, I speak Danish and English fluently, and I'm learning German and Esperanto.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

As a typical, pathetic American, I am fluent only in English. I took several years of French, way back in the dark ages, and I could mumble my way along in it if I had to.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:13 pm    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

Zag wrote:
As a typical, pathetic American, I am fluent only in English. I took several years of French, way back in the dark ages, and I could mumble my way along in it if I had to.


Me too.

Living as I do in Texas, I see many billboards that are in Spanish only. Also, I've learned quite a bit from the menus (I don't always eat out, but when I do, I eat Mexican).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:49 pm    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

Ugly American here. English only. Four years of high school Spanish, and I don't remember much beyond "taco", "burrito", and the like.

Right now, the only languages I'm interested in learning are of the computer programming variety.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:53 pm    Post subject: 5 Reply with quote

I cannot speak German. However, I can understand it passably (although my vocabulary is suprisingly board game specific!)

I deliberately tried to forgot as much French as I possibly could once I left school (where it was compulsory) but I still seem to have a surprisingly large vocabulary, although no grammar to go with it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:25 am    Post subject: 6 Reply with quote

English, plus enough French/German to pass a language exam requirement.

In other words, English.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:01 am    Post subject: 7 Reply with quote

Fluent in Dutch, English and German. Can cope reasonably well in French. Enough Italian for hotels and restaurants. About 100 words of mandarin only.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:45 am    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

Mother language is Spanish and Catalan, and I have pretty good knowledge of English. Now learning Japanese.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:24 am    Post subject: 9 Reply with quote

I speak English and Pig-Latin.

I also speak enough Cantonese and Spanish for native speakers to really dislike trying to talk to to me in them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:32 am    Post subject: 10 Reply with quote

English only. Took French but je ne parle pas francais.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:37 am    Post subject: 11 Reply with quote

Right now, English only. I used to be able to carry on a decent conversation in Spanish and knew enough German to communicate, although it wouldn't have been pretty. Now, I can still read them, but haven't spoken either in a decade or so.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:38 am    Post subject: 12 Reply with quote

They tried to teach me French when I was in the 7th grade. I taught them that it wasn't going to happen.
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Antrax
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:30 am    Post subject: 13 Reply with quote

Mainly Hebrew and English. Learning Russian by bits and pieces, and I still remember some Arabic from school, but nothing more useful than reading street signs slowly and the such.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:48 am    Post subject: 14 Reply with quote

Crap. I'd forgotten/repressed that 'traxy knows Hebrew. I was always a bit jealous about that.
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Antrax
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:47 am    Post subject: 15 Reply with quote

Hebrew's main usage is gossiping about people while in foreign countries. Any foreign language is likely to be useful for that.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:05 am    Post subject: 16 Reply with quote

When most Americans come to the country in which I live, as mono-linguists they figure that learning the local language would be too difficult -- even if they are planning on staying for the long term -- and end up isolated. The French, Japanese, and others (most of whom have previously learned English as an international token) aren't scared and make serious progress with the language.

On the other hand, I don't think I met a single immigrant in Canada who didn't speak English (or French, of course). At the risk of confusing cause and effect, we're lucky that English is becoming the lingua franca.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:14 pm    Post subject: 17 Reply with quote

I speak Russian, English, and I used to know some Serbo-Croat but it's now mostly gone. I want to learn Portuguese and German (my new niece is Swiss-German) and my best friend now lives in Brazil). Other priorities are first though (like my wife's recipe program!).
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:19 pm    Post subject: 18 Reply with quote

Lepton* wrote:
When most Americans come to the country in which I live, as mono-linguists they figure that learning the local language would be too difficult ...


It's early in the morning, and as I read that I forgot that you are not in Canada any more. I thought to myself "What? All you have to do is speak English, but end every sentence with 'eh'"
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Chaz
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:03 pm    Post subject: 19 Reply with quote

Heh.

There are two languages I'd like to know fluently.

Spanish (just because so many people in the US speak it now that it's getting "silly" not to learn it) and ASL (American Sign Language.)

I think everyone should learn ASL. It's super useful for trying to communicate across a noisy room (like a rock concert), underwater, to someone in another vehicle, and during a video feed where multiple people want to say something at the same time.

The last reason is a lot of stretch, sure, but I can think of a few taffy moments when it might be useful.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:11 pm    Post subject: 20 Reply with quote

Antrax wrote:
Hebrew's main usage is gossiping about people while in foreign countries.
I use Irish for that Felicitous

English, German, Irish, French. (in order of competency)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:12 pm    Post subject: 21 Reply with quote

Chaz wrote:
I think everyone should learn ASL.
After a long and weary train journey sharing seats with some kids going home from a School for the Deaf, I heartily agree. What's ASL for "Please close your mouth while chewing, the noise is quite distracting!"? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:33 pm    Post subject: 22 Reply with quote

Another great reason. Everyone could still communicate even when they're all listening to music in their headphones.

The truly anti-social could just close their eyes to let everyone know that they don't want to be bothered.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:50 pm    Post subject: 23 Reply with quote

Chaz wrote:
Another great reason. Everyone could still communicate even when they're all listening to music in their headphones.

The truly anti-social could just close their eyes to let everyone know that they don't want to be bothered.


Or wear sunglasses, to make themselves even more unreadable.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:07 pm    Post subject: 24 Reply with quote

Isn't Irish just English with a funny accent?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:52 pm    Post subject: 25 Reply with quote

Antrax wrote:
Isn't Irish just English with a funny accent?
Buinneach bhuí an Diabhail ort! Evil or Very Mad
May you suffer the Devil's yellow diarrhoea!
Actually, if you want to hear some spoken you can check out Dara O' Briain ar Jonathan Ross ag labhairt as Gaeilge.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject: 26 Reply with quote

Hmm well.. English, Dutch and German fluently, enough French to make myself more or less understood..
I can recite some prayers in Hebrew, but I guess that does not count.

I know some very basic ASL, we taught it to our kids to help them communicate. My youngest (11 months) just started signing in the last few weeks, she can do milk, up and dog.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:54 pm    Post subject: 27 Reply with quote

I really can only speak English (barely at that!) and could mangle out a conversation in Russian. I can understand Russian fairly well but it would take a few days of exposure to be competent again.
One of my proudest moments with Russian was after about 10 months of living there a stranger didn't realize I was foreign for about 5 minutes.


The aspect that makes English an excellent international language is that you can completely butcher it and still be understood. Because it is spoken with many different accents and styles, people have gotten used to poorly spoken English. If you pronounce "four" as "fur" or "thor" the other person will probably understand you.
My experience with Russian was quite the opposite. A slight mispronunciation of a word was met with blank stares. Unless the word was spoken almost perfectly or the person was used to Russian spoken as a second language, it is not understood.

I wall no go bak to butcher English. Felicitous
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject: 28 Reply with quote

...Isn't Dutch also just English with a funny accent? Kidding!
Fluent in English. Passable in French. Can form some basic sentences in German. Remember a couple of Russian words.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:46 am    Post subject: 29 Reply with quote

While living in Germany, I used to watch the Dutch TV channels.
Between my English and German, I was ably to understand most of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:06 am    Post subject: 30 Reply with quote

I've seen a great deal of movies; most foreign languages are just English with funny accents.

Including British.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:39 am    Post subject: 31 Reply with quote

Well English isn't really a language anyway. It's just a bastardised conglomeration of Indo-European languages.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: 32 Reply with quote

I speak English. I'm not really capable of learning a second language. Oh, I've tried, I lived in Southern California for many years and couldn't pick up Spanish, even with classes. In college, I took several semesters of Japanese. Learned enough to pass tests, but couldn't retain the information.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:48 pm    Post subject: 33 Reply with quote

Immersion lessons are the way to go.

Rosetta Stone es muy buena.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:58 pm    Post subject: 34 Reply with quote

Jack_Ian wrote:
While living in Germany, I used to watch the Dutch TV channels.
Between my English and German, I was ably to understand most of it.

My wife said exactly the same
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:22 am    Post subject: 35 Reply with quote

Zag wrote:
As a typical, pathetic American, I am fluent only in English. I took several years of French, way back in the dark ages, and I could mumble my way along in it if I had to.
Ironically, we have this very much in common. I know some Spanish too though (2 years, before I took 3 years of French....which ruined my Spanish).
Scurra wrote:
I cannot speak German. However, I can understand it passably

That's essentially French and Spanish for me. I can get the gist of what they're saying but don't remember the words to respond. I can order food, but that's about it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:09 pm    Post subject: 36 Reply with quote

i think its mostly about where you come from...

europe is crowded with nations speaking different languages living next to each other and mixing with each other for ages. i can hardly think of anyone i know in europe who doesnt know at least one other language well enough.

when the u.s. is a chunk of land bigger than europe, why would you learn a european language? its like me living in europe trying to learn some african language - i mean what for? am i likely to go there once or twice in a lifetime? perhaps you could learn spanish, tho with the latinos becoming almost a majority in the states Extreme Delectation.

my mother language is slovak, i speak czech (throw in there the whole slavic group, because i technically *could* understand with enough back and forth efforts also polish, serb, croat and ukrainian - but thats not knowing the languages, thats just using the fact that they are so similar to slovak ), i speak english, i can easily follow a german movie but when i try to speak it half the words that come out are english - bah, i know some hungarian and some russian.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:37 pm    Post subject: 37 Reply with quote

Samadhi wrote:

Scurra wrote:
I cannot speak German. However, I can understand it passably

That's essentially French and Spanish for me. I can get the gist of what they're saying but don't remember the words to respond. I can order food, but that's about it.

I realize that this is the more common situation, but it completely baffles me. When I try to listen to someone else speaking French, I have trouble even telling where the word breaks are. (Of course, French speakers have lost most of their consonants, so when they speak it's like one long vowel sound. Maybe this problem is unique to French.) Then, even if I can parse it out, the key word in the sentence is one I don't know immediately, and while I am trying to recall it the rest of the sentence has gone by without me.

When I am speaking, I know where the freaking word breaks are; I can stop when I need to; and I can usually come up with a word that means close enough to what I am trying to say.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:45 pm    Post subject: 38 Reply with quote

Add to the fact that English is the de facto international auxiliary language. Learning a foreign language for the culture alone is hard, and only sometimes useful.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:25 pm    Post subject: 39 Reply with quote

Fluent in English, and I've taken some French, German, Spanish, and ASL as well. I know enough German nad French to make my way through those countries, but my Spanish and ASL are pretty poor.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:45 pm    Post subject: 40 Reply with quote

My youngest, (12 months) is doing more and more signing now.
She can sign milk, more, help (sort of Revenge most foul! ), up, all done, dog, cat (sometimes) and bath..
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