The Resistance : Spies win 3-1

[MatthewV]

And I still support restarting this game with everyone receiving a message. Then we wouldn't be speculating about how different people responded to getting or not getting a message.

[bgg1996]

He said that that was optimal. What are the odds of getting two scum? The odds of them both selecting fail? Selecting pass?
Also, not getting a PASS while selecting yourself would not ensure that both of them are resistance. It could be a lying spy.

Also, why would he not pick himself as scum? Especially if it was as completely obvious that it is 'proof that he is scum' as you say.

P. S. Don't restart the game. At least until it's over.

[wordcross]

[bgg1996]

I guess Sentran isn't playing.

[bgg1996]

You know, because he wasn't on the first list? haha, a joke.

[Chaz]

Is it just me, or is MattV confessing to being a spy? :-/

bgg and MattV's posts are confusing the hell out of me. With bgg posting invisitext that's screaming "I am a spy" and MattV talking about wanting to switch teams and admitting to "being defeated."

I mean, seriously, am I just reading it wrong?
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[wordcross]

I have no idea what to make of bgg. The invisitext seems like the kind you would post hoping that others will find it unlikely that a real spy would actually claim guilt, but that just makes him look calculating and scummy. So he's either naive or scum. Or he's trying to confuse us to divert attention. (I've been watching too much NCIS lately.)
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[wordcross]

As for MattV, I think when he said "Change my team" I think he meant the people he had selected as specialists. He made the decision at the beginning of the round, but people have encouraged him to pick others. I think he's probably right about not being able to change whom he chose.

I'm still in favor of his list, but if we don't have a majority then it goes to me and I get to pick a set. I'm very likely to do almost exactly what he did, though.
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[bgg1996]

Relax, I'm just messin' with all of you.
I AM NOT A SPY!

[Zag]

I had the impression that MattV could choose a team, if it was voted down then he could choose another, etc. Only if he was unable to choose a team that was voted in by the deadline was it an automatic win for spies.

Dethy?

[wordcross]

[Zag]

Oh. Well, I'm sticking with the opinion that MattV's choice is going to give the spies another point and not give us any useful information. Vote no.

[Chaz]

[dethwing]

Leadership passes to the next player regardless of whether the mission is attempted or not.

[wordcross]

Neither ralphm nor Sentran have posted in this thread other than to say /in.

I'm not sure if that makes them innocent or lurkers. We've technically only been playing for about 8 hours real time, but we've already finished one round and started debating the team for the second.
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[Chaz]

For the record, I don't see myself voting "yes" to any team with MattV, Monk, or bgg in it.
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[Undercover Monk]

hmmm whatevs in my defence I already know who I am so I wanted info on the others though now that I think about we probably will have needed that point. But whatevs Im not a spy.
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[Chaz]

Neither is bgg. BUT HE IS!
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[ralphmerridew]

I don't have any objection to the proposed team (choose the leader plus three people who weren't on the last team seems sound), but I'm wondering whether it's a good idea to reject a team or two, just to get some more information out. On the other hand, UM's idea day 1 sounded good, but was fatally flawed.

At least we can eliminate 20 of the 84 possible scumteams.

Just to put everything together:

Round 1, Team 1 by UM: Poisonium, Chaz, and bgg1996
Yes: Monk, Zag, Chaz, MatthewV, Bgg1996

Round 2, Team 1 by MV: MV, Zag, rm, Sentran

(And I've actually been working at this for a while. At one point I previewed, and saw that wx had made the point about MatthewV's team, so I removed that part of my message. Then a while later I saw that he was asking why I hadn't posted, so I'm posting this just to have something up.)

[bgg1996]

[Chaz]

[Chaz]

Sending "no" now.
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[Poisonium]

This level of activity is unheard of in a mafia-like game on the Grey Labyrinth.

[Poisonium]

I am leaning strongly towards no (I too think that a draw of one of us three would be better, I think it gives more information and less reliance on luck), but I'd like the question answered before ultimately voting.
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[dethwing]

I randomized the entrants, 1 to 9. Leadership will pass down, and loop back around.

[Chaz]

Now you just need to threaten to shoot the lowest numbered one who moves first...

Wait. That's another thread...
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[wordcross]

Or the highest numbered one. Or the fattest/thinnest. Whatever arbitrary ranking system you like.

Wait, where were we?
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[MatthewV]

Just to keep track...

No
Chaz
Zag
Poisonium


Yes
Undercover Monk
wordcross
ralphmerridew

No indication that I saw
MatthewV -- Yeah, I am keeping silent about my choice. It is called leadership
Sentran
Bgg1996


I would really like to hear for Sentran and bgg1996.

[Chaz]

[Sentran]

I apologize for not having kept up on this thread. I had not realized the game had started. I'll try to catch up this afternoon and post a few opinions.
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Poisonium]

Leadership apparently is to ask for as much information as possible, and reveal as little as possible... This could start a great political debate.

Why you'd vote no to your own suggestion is beyond me, though.

I am now decidedly distrustful of MatthewV.
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[Zag]

[Chaz]

Man. After a quick first day, it sure shifted into slow gear.

Is there a dead-line, and, if so, what happens to votes that didn't get submitted?
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[ralphmerridew]

MV: Actually, I'm favoring "no", just to get more information out.

[dethwing]

Hmm...hadn't thought of a deadline, or what to do if someone doesn't send. Should I pick randomly, auto vote yes, auto vote no, or just ignore them?

Hope it doesn't come to that.

[bgg1996]

[Chaz]

[Sentran]

OK, I finally caught up, and I think I understand how it works now. I'm fairly convinced that Poisonium was the spy first round, not Chaz. Now, how should I vote?
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[MatthewV]

I have been in favor of voting No to my group the entire time. I don't think I could have created a group that I would have been happy with at this point of the game. In fact, I am very wary of the people who supported it.

As I stressed in my post when I created my group, it is very important to know how people react to any given group. Thank you for the rule change. As I expect this game to last about 10 rounds, I think we should be able to get all players to send a Yes or No.

The only fact is that at least one person from {Poisonium, Chaz, and bgg1996} is bad. I don't really trust any member of this group more or less than the others.

I feel that Undercover Monk is bad. And that one person from the set of {Zag, Sentran, bgg1996} is also bad. From the set of three, I trust Zag more than the other two.

Personally I would be most comfortable with a group that had the base of {MatthewV, wordcross, ralphmerridew} at this point in time.

[Chaz]

I wouldn't; MattV is a spy.
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