The Resistance : Spies win 3-1

[MatthewV]

It might also work if one of the spies was actually a double agent

[Chaz]

I don't think it's biased towards the spies. I just think we got a bit unlucky with round one (though Monk's shot in the dark could have gone either way really.)

If I were forced to choose right now, I would say:
Undercover Monk, Wordcross, Chaz, ralphmerridew, and Poisonium.

MattV and Zag were just too eager to start a new game. bgg's invisible posts make me not trust him.

As for Sentran... I don't know. He just seems scummy to me.
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[Chaz]

Oh. And I would definitely play another round. This was fun. =D
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[wordcross]

I'm willing to go with the current group. I don't think MattV is actually guilty of anything other than being too abrasive. My only question is on Undercover Monk, but I'm just as suspicious of the remaining players, so might as well. Once rm makes it official, I'd vote yes as he listed it.
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[wordcross]

I would also play another game.

Dethy, I'm assuming that your gaming group is in person. That makes things a lot different. The long-form nature and anonymous face of a message board game change the dynamic.
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[Zag]

[Undercover Monk]

Or a rebel playing a game for the first time did something stupid that is then being used by the true spies to instill suspicion in an innocent.

Looking at the probability it was dumb but from my perspective I knew who I was and wanted more info on the other players.
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[Sentran]

[bgg1996]

1. Poisonium. He is a guaranteed spy, that is, if Chaz is innocent.
2. Zag. He is one of the three that voted yes to the last team, and those three people would make perfect sense as a spy team.
3. Sentran. Sentran was also one of the three. Seems only slightly less evil than Zag.

Those are my top three spy picks. I could be wrong on one, but I doubt it.

[Chaz]

My money is on Zag, MattV, and Sentran.
bgg only *just* falls shy of being on this list.

[Chaz]

For the record when I use the words "ignorant" and "deluded", I'm not looking down on Monk. I mean ignorant in a "we don't know what we're doing" kind of way. I mean "deluded' in a way that I usually play most of my VSGs.
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[bgg1996]

[ralphmerridew]

If UM's initial play didn't have to get all three spies. If it had ID'd two spies, it would have been worth it. (Luck would have put two or three spies on the list with probability 16/56 = 2/7.)

It was flawed even considering that. The spies can eliminate the risk of collision fairly easily if they follow the rule that only the first spy listed should even consider failing (with the exception of round 4).

I'm not willing to swap Pois onto the team. His vote for Zag's team made him too suspicious in my mind.

team is rm, Chaz, wx, UM, MV.

(least suspicious) rm, Chaz, wx, UM, MV, bgg, Sentran, Pois, Zag (most suspicious)

[Zag]

[Zag]

I'll go through with the formality of voting no, even though I know that the spies will all vote yes, plus you've got a deluded few who will join you. Then the game will be over and we can try another.

[wordcross]

I think the team's about as solid as I can imagine any would be. I'm not certain we're keeping the spies out, but any substitutions are either the same or worse.

Vote: yes

If we have less than 2 spies on the team (very likely, imo), then we will have a 100% pass tonight. no reason for a single spy to vote fail when it will do no good and give us info on the makeup of the team. We either lose, or we're back to the same group and arguments for tomorrow. Sounds pretty hopeless when you put it that way
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[bgg1996]

Voted yes.
There's no way I could be wrong on two of them.
However, I do think one of them might be spies. The game isn't won yet.

If any, which do you think could possibly be a spy?

[Chaz]

[mv*]

[Chaz]

I haven't got the package yet; it's at my parent's house. I'm super excited, but it was a blizzard in Utah tonight. I will post pics as soon as it's in my hands.
(I usually ship things there because there's usually somebody there, and nobody at my house in the day.)
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The enemy's base is down.

[Chaz]

Well, mine is sent.
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[Sentran]

[Sentran]

[dethwing]

I for one didn't take it personally. No worries.

[Poisonium]

[Poisonium]

Also, since Bgg and Sentran are my by far most likely picks for spies, I can accept this. It certainly won't have more than 1 spy.
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[Sentran]

Fools all. Oh well, after we (the resistance) lose this game, you will see that I am not a spy.
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Zag]

[Zag]

[Chaz]

[MatthewV]

In fact, Sentran's behavior yesterday makes me think he isn't a spy. Well, not entirely, but I think wordcross is taking his place.

The funny thing is that we think nearly every leader as being a spy because of the team they picked.

[dethwing]

Sentran: No
RM: Yes
Zag: No
wordcross: Yes
bgg: Yes
MattV: No
Chaz: Yes
Monk: Yes
Poison: Yes

Motion passes, the team is launched.

Pass, Pass, Pass, Fail, Fail.

With a double fail the spies score a point winning the game 3-1.

Your spies were: Wordcross, Poisonium, ralphmerridew

Thanks everyone for playing, hope to do this again.

[wordcross]

I can't imagine how frustrating that game was from the rebel point of view. As a spy it was hilarity =D
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[wordcross]

Also, I hope I'm on mattV's team next time around. He seemed to be the most on point for all that he wasn't very good at convincing others.
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[ralphmerridew]

Congrats to MatthewV for picking out two scum, even if he couldn't convince anybody.

I said it favored the spies before we started and still think so. Every proposed team had enough spies for them to get a point.

[mv*]

There needs to be more rounds with fewer people on them for the rebels to have a chance. Or the rules need to be changed because I don't think we could ever win with this setup.

I will remain convinced that a longer game benefits the resistance. Without any solid information, the mix of theories is just too great.

And 2/4 of the early posters were spies. We should have trusted that more.

[mv*]

What would happen if the spies had to submit pass or fail before the leader chose the team?

[Zag]

Well, my logic was correct (of course ) but the team I chose would have lost, also. I said that if my theory was incorrect, I was at least getting a 50% chance of success, but I happened to hit the wrong 50%.

[Chaz]

Crap. And I almost voted no!

Man. I blew this one hard.

I'm still not entirely clear why wordcross failed his round, but I guess if it works, then it works, right?
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[wordcross]

Mostly because I knew what the next round would be, so we'd be up 2-1 and then it was highly unlikely that the rounds with 5 players would be able to keep the spies out. Plus I got to feign confusion over why it happened
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