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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:57 am    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

ok i just want to say as a group, we need to stick together, as long as we do that, our tribe will last. we can figure out who is the strongest after we take out the other tribe, amirite?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:08 am    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

Hi tribe-mates! To stay true to the show I'm going to be wearing only one change of clothing until this game is over! Extreme Delectation

Anyways, sounds like our treemail is hinting at a game similar to isolation, basically we'll be moving around a board and taking out spaces in hopes of getting one of them stuck?

If so, we may have a few stategic choices, spreading out and trying to keep us all in as long as possible, or a more chess-like approach where we protect one tribe mate by sacrificing others, if it only matters that we have the last member standing.

But this is all speculation. Good luck to all of us and go team!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:16 am    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

Hi guys. We have a strong team! We have every chance of being the final 5!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

Hello Paladins! As I read it, we're still awaiting the first challenge.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject: 5 Reply with quote

What's up fellow Paladins? Good to be here.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:07 pm    Post subject: 6 Reply with quote

THe challenge is in the main thread, but the link we have to follow isnt working.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:14 pm    Post subject: 7 Reply with quote

new link should be working now good luck
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:13 pm    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

So it looks like Ctorj, MNOWAX, and I have better odds of lasting longer being towards the middle. Maybe we only plan on moving out me and MNO? We're spaced apart and not right at the edge?

I think what will trip people up is being bunched together, because a team loses if they can't move, not if they're surrounded by black holes, so using their own, or even our pieces, as blockers wolud be a more efficient way of simply waiting to black them out.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:32 pm    Post subject: 9 Reply with quote

Per the treemail, we should drive them into a corner. A decent strategy unless you have a better one.

That's all I got since you can basically "teleport" to any position in the grid. Or am I missing something?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:34 pm    Post subject: 10 Reply with quote

I'm wondering if the movement must be linear along the hex-grid.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:17 am    Post subject: 11 Reply with quote

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The teams will take turns moving to one adjacent space and blacking out any spot on the board (preventing movement into that space).


You can only move to an adjacent space. It's the blacking out that can be ANY spot on the board. If we could more to any open space it'd just be a game of who knocks out the last space on the board.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:04 pm    Post subject: 12 Reply with quote

well it definitely changed my strategy. I though it just blacked out where you left from. now i'm thinking maybe split the board while we move?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:16 pm    Post subject: 13 Reply with quote

unless soeone has a gripe, im goign to go to B4 and block out e4 (kind of mirroring zag's strategy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:57 pm    Post subject: 14 Reply with quote

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unless soeone has a gripe, im goign to go to B4 and block out e4 (kind of mirroring zag's strategy


I have a few ideas of my own. I might jump ahead of you. Also, if you are wanting to keep the strategies more secret, PM people.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:26 pm    Post subject: 15 Reply with quote

In Miths Reunion mafia, he had secret threads on QuickTopic.com, where you dont need to register to post, but you do need the link to get there. I have created one for us and will PM the link around.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:27 pm    Post subject: 16 Reply with quote

QT is a great place, we definitely should be using that.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:06 pm    Post subject: 17 Reply with quote

sorry Amb but because of an upcoming twist you must use only this thread or the pm system to communicate with each other. However if i do another game the QT sounds like a good idea.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:12 pm    Post subject: 18 Reply with quote

I'd much much much rather discuss in the thread than start a confusing PM chainmail method of discussion. Other than people peeking, which I'd just rather assume people can avoid the temptation, I don't see a reason for our strategies to not be in this thread
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: 19 Reply with quote

Ack, you moved I see.

Actually not a horrible move. I recommend next MNO move to B5 and black out E6 to put the squeeze on their lower half. Looks like players can only movie their own piece, so if it gets close to time for our turn and MNO's hasn't gone I guess it's ok to jump the line.

Other thoughts about our next move(s)?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:26 pm    Post subject: 20 Reply with quote

im cool with moving there, i was planning my alternative, but this accomplishes the same thing
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:25 pm    Post subject: 21 Reply with quote

Whoever moves next for our team (and I would suggest Amb, to open our options) should choose their next blackout depending on the other team's move. Only choose the one that will block in at least one of their players. In other words, if bgg is next to move, block out F3 or F6 to block Chaz or word, respectively. if Chaz moves, bgg or word can be blocked. if word or jbv moves, bgg can still be blocked.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:58 pm    Post subject: 22 Reply with quote

I'm away the next few days... If you need me to move, tell me my move quickly.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:45 am    Post subject: 23 Reply with quote

Ctorj needs to get the hell out of there, and FAST!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: 24 Reply with quote

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Ctorj needs to get the hell out of there, and FAST!

We really should give up on me and focus on either Sentran or Amb moving out of the kill zone. Keep focusing on blocking their guys in there initial line.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:35 pm    Post subject: 25 Reply with quote

I've been studying the map further and just realized something: We lost. I imagined myself as them and saw how absolutely screwed the other team is. I can't imagine a scenario where we win. Seriously. Look at it from their perspective. We made the mistake of making the line too close to them.

I will TRY to make it out of there, but it looks bad. The only good move is to C3. Everything else can be blocked in 2 moves
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: 26 Reply with quote

I propose moving myself to B# and blocking F7. Anyone object?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:10 am    Post subject: 27 Reply with quote

good luck
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:41 am    Post subject: 28 Reply with quote

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I've been studying the map further and just realized something: We lost. I imagined myself as them and saw how absolutely screwed the other team is. I can't imagine a scenario where we win. Seriously. Look at it from their perspective. We made the mistake of making the line too close to them.

I will TRY to make it out of there, but it looks bad. The only good move is to C3. Everything else can be blocked in 2 moves


Yeah, we look pretty dead. Our only shot is they may dance themselves into a smaller corner through some slip-ups before we run out of space. I recommend we at least keep moving forward to force them to close us off as far right as possible, to delay, while trying to maybe trap them in the top as a group, or at least pin the two people still adjacent in the home row.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:19 pm    Post subject: 29 Reply with quote

Completely my fault. I misread the rules, and thought that the players needed to take turns between their group (as in each player moves before one can move twice). In that scenario, I assumed that if a player was blocked, the opposing team would be getting double moves. I lost this for us, and I'm sorry.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:46 pm    Post subject: 30 Reply with quote

We still have a chance if they slip up trying to beat us too fast. I recommend talking smack and hopefully they'll slip up and miscalculate a block.

Unless someone else has a better idea. Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:02 am    Post subject: 31 Reply with quote

BLock off E3 and E4 ASAP, then we can try to deal with zag. Easier to deal iwth one person rather than five. Amb YOU NEED TO GET OUTASAP! as soon as we block up the others Ctorj you need to get out when we make zag move.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:03 am    Post subject: 32 Reply with quote

MNOWAX wrote:
BLock off E3 and E4 ASAP, then we can try to deal with zag. Easier to deal iwth one person rather than five. Amb YOU NEED TO GET OUTASAP! as soon as we block up the others Ctorj you need to get out when we make zag move.

I disagree. Once Zag is within our "wall", we have a SERIOUS problem. We can actually win this. Trust me on this team.

MNO: Move to B5 and block off G8.

Even if we block off E4, bgg will just move up and then we have to chase him. If we block off G8 now, we take out 3 guys in 1 more move and they still haven't cornered any of us yet. Once bgg moves from F4, we block it and own this game. They think they have us, but they really don't. We CAN win this.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:17 am    Post subject: 33 Reply with quote

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MNOWAX wrote:
BLock off E3 and E4 ASAP, then we can try to deal with zag. Easier to deal iwth one person rather than five. Amb YOU NEED TO GET OUTASAP! as soon as we block up the others Ctorj you need to get out when we make zag move.

I disagree. Once Zag is within our "wall", we have a SERIOUS problem. We can actually win this. Trust me on this team.

MNO: Move to B5 and block off G8.

Even if we block off E4, bgg will just move up and then we have to chase him. If we block off G8 now, we take out 3 guys in 1 more move and they still haven't cornered any of us yet. Once bgg moves from F4, we block it and own this game. They think they have us, but they really don't. We CAN win this.

There is an alternate strategy where:
Amb moves to C7. Either way, we must block off G8 though.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: 34 Reply with quote

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Ctorj wrote:
MNOWAX wrote:
BLock off E3 and E4 ASAP, then we can try to deal with zag. Easier to deal iwth one person rather than five. Amb YOU NEED TO GET OUTASAP! as soon as we block up the others Ctorj you need to get out when we make zag move.

I disagree. Once Zag is within our "wall", we have a SERIOUS problem. We can actually win this. Trust me on this team.

MNO: Move to B5 and block off G8.

Even if we block off E4, bgg will just move up and then we have to chase him. If we block off G8 now, we take out 3 guys in 1 more move and they still haven't cornered any of us yet. Once bgg moves from F4, we block it and own this game. They think they have us, but they really don't. We CAN win this.

There is an alternate strategy where:
Amb moves to C7. Either way, we must block off G8 though.

Sorry for the triple post. Let's move Amb first. It buys us one more space.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:23 am    Post subject: 35 Reply with quote

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Ctorj wrote:
Ctorj wrote:
MNOWAX wrote:
BLock off E3 and E4 ASAP, then we can try to deal with zag. Easier to deal iwth one person rather than five. Amb YOU NEED TO GET OUTASAP! as soon as we block up the others Ctorj you need to get out when we make zag move.

I disagree. Once Zag is within our "wall", we have a SERIOUS problem. We can actually win this. Trust me on this team.

MNO: Move to B5 and block off G8.

Even if we block off E4, bgg will just move up and then we have to chase him. If we block off G8 now, we take out 3 guys in 1 more move and they still haven't cornered any of us yet. Once bgg moves from F4, we block it and own this game. They think they have us, but they really don't. We CAN win this.

There is an alternate strategy where:
Amb moves to C7. Either way, we must block off G8 though.

Sorry for the triple post. Let's move Amb first. It buys us one more space.

You win MNO. You're right. Blocking off E4 is more important. G8 CAN wait a turn.

My final recommendation:
Amb moves to C7, block off E4.

Then they HAVE to block off D7 in which case we can then block off G8 or E3, depending which move they make.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:16 pm    Post subject: 36 Reply with quote

If we let Zag inside our wall, wouldn't it be easier to trap him? He will be blocked in 3 of 4 options immediately, and we can black block him on the last, trapping him. We have 3 of their other players all but trapped, and we can have our remaining two work on their last one. I'm not moving unless told to do so, it's just my current thoughts.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: 37 Reply with quote

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If we let Zag inside our wall, wouldn't it be easier to trap him? He will be blocked in 3 of 4 options immediately, and we can black block him on the last, trapping him. We have 3 of their other players all but trapped, and we can have our remaining two work on their last one. I'm not moving unless told to do so, it's just my current thoughts.


I agree. I didn't want to post that thought because I figured they'd be spying on the thread and adjust their strategy. Oh well. Felicitous
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:47 pm    Post subject: 38 Reply with quote

Correction: I think Zag is using himself as a blocking piece to continue the wall. If they get it all the way across, they will beat us. We may still be able to win, but it will be difficult. Amb MUST move.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: 39 Reply with quote

We are all in agreement that Amb must move.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:56 pm    Post subject: 40 Reply with quote

I think we can all agree that Amb should move back to B6 so he doesn't become immobilized in the next turn.

Which one should we black off next? I'm thinking either D3 or G8. Leaning towards D3 though.
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