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Another Rules game: MNOWAX and 3iff
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:10 am    Post subject: 81 Reply with quote

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And Zag is out


I think I would have sided with buzzing the capitalization of "in bed." because of the quotes and ability to fulfill all the previous requirements.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:17 am    Post subject: 82 Reply with quote

MNOWAX wrote:
BUZZ

Where are your quote tags?

d'oh. I just spaced that one.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:33 am    Post subject: 83 Reply with quote

MatthewV wrote:
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And Zag is out


I think I would have sided with buzzing the capitalization of "in bed." because of the quotes and ability to fulfill all the previous requirements.



well i'm glad he let it go.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:35 am    Post subject: 84 Reply with quote

first rule no punctuation in rules anymore im enacting MNOWAXs rule again[/b]
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:36 am    Post subject: 85 Reply with quote

damn! i dunno why the bold tag closed out nothing....?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:48 am    Post subject: 86 Reply with quote

I HAVE to buzz that. "[/b]" looks like punctuation to me.

THIS time I'm waiting for a decision from MatthewV.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:46 am    Post subject: 87 Reply with quote

I don't feel that he used any marks to separate sentences or their elements.

Also, the reason the tag existed at the end is really the fault of the php codes I am inclined to be more forgiving. This post was typed carefully to avoid and when I hit submit there isn't any broken tags in it.[/quote][/u][/i][/b]
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:29 am    Post subject: 88 Reply with quote

dnoces elur any word containing an e must eb nettirw backwards
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:46 am    Post subject: 89 Reply with quote

tHird eluR iS yreVe wOrd mUst eVah A caPital reTtel In iT
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:09 am    Post subject: 90 Reply with quote

txeN eLur Two reTtel wOrds erA nedDibrof
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: 91 Reply with quote

I dont know if this counts, but if misspelling a word you had to type backwards (in this case, "forbidden") is a buzz worthy offense then:

BUZZ 3iff

if not, carry on.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: 92 Reply with quote

Well, I'm under the impression that forbidden is spelt forbidden.

I believe that is what I typed...albeit backwards and a capitalised letter included.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:37 pm    Post subject: 93 Reply with quote

Sorry; the D capitalized messed me up. carry on.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:19 pm    Post subject: 94 Reply with quote

I can't really tell the difference between b's and d's either.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: 95 Reply with quote

txeN eluR eNo NonBackwards wOrd musSt evaH A gnillePssim
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: 96 Reply with quote

Buzz: The rules unclearly call for a (singular) capital letter and NonBackwards has two.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:30 am    Post subject: 97 Reply with quote

I read that rule as meaning the word must contain at least one capital
(As a side note, I am enjoying where these rules are heading Laughing )
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:00 am    Post subject: 98 Reply with quote

every rule must have a capital letter. it fulfills the requirement of the rule

and I'm just getting warmed up matt. 3iff, prepare to meet your maker..
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:03 am    Post subject: 99 Reply with quote

non-backwards -> nonbackwards ?
I think the hyphen could be considered punctuation. But I am not an expert on such things.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:06 am    Post subject: 100 Reply with quote

But your rule also contains two misspellings: "nonbackwards" and "musst".

~thinking~
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:32 am    Post subject: 101 Reply with quote

No results found for nonbackwards:
Did you mean nonubiquitous?

His rule says one must be misspelled.
The two interpretations are at least one, and exactly one.
Exactly one is the stricter interpretation, so you'll be going with that, I assume, since at least one doesn't seem very obvious by the way he wrote it.
Since he spellled nonubiquitous (very) wrong as well as must,
buzz.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:55 pm    Post subject: 102 Reply with quote

Another peanut gallery chime-in:
Non-backwards would be the correct usage. If the hyphen is considered punctuation and therefore removed, nonbackwards is not spelled incorrectly.
My opinion is that no rules have been broken, the rule should not have been buzzed, and play should continue.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:48 pm    Post subject: 103 Reply with quote

Hyphen is considered a punctuation.

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/marks.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:14 am    Post subject: 104 Reply with quote

Maybe if it said, "remove punctuation", but it just said "no punctuation". The word isn't spelled any less wrong because of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:43 am    Post subject: 105 Reply with quote

Buzzing would be too much of a nitpick. I would if I felt it was a forgotten space, but it has the feel of a removed hyphen.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:52 am    Post subject: 106 Reply with quote

So, is that buzz rejected? Is it my turn to add a rule?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:53 am    Post subject: 107 Reply with quote

Yes.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:56 am    Post subject: 108 Reply with quote

Ok. Actually, I wouldn't have buzzed for the hyphen-no hyphen...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:03 am    Post subject: 109 Reply with quote

Clarification.

Is "Y" a vowel , a consonant or isn't it specified.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:08 am    Post subject: 110 Reply with quote

The main problem I had is that it would have been completely normal to ignore the existence of the hyphen in the lazy-and-ignorant-youthful fashion.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:09 am    Post subject: 111 Reply with quote

Y isn't specified in this game. You may say in your post that it is never a vowel.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:24 am    Post subject: 112 Reply with quote

reHtona elUr wourdS wIth yltCaxe Two tnecAjda sleWov Must eVah ehT slewoV swaP sEcalp reTfa apPlying aLl rehTo selUr slewoV edUlcxe eHt rettEl Y
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:09 pm    Post subject: 113 Reply with quote

BUZZ

"wourds" are the vowels swapped here?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:59 pm    Post subject: 114 Reply with quote

Words could be misspelled as either wuords or wourds. I can't dictate how you misspell something.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:12 pm    Post subject: 115 Reply with quote

You are asking for trouble if you make any rule concerning vowels without specifying how Y will be treated, usually to say that it isn't one. It is very tricky to determine whether it is or isn't a vowel in words. For instance:

myth: clearly a vowel
yank: clearly not a vowel
boy: pretty certainly a vowel
buoy: ok. this one too.
buoyant: ????

Of course, by any definition that makes Y a vowel in "boy," then W should also be a vowel in "bow." And how about the GH in "though" or in "sigh"?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:39 pm    Post subject: 116 Reply with quote

Zag wrote:
You are asking for trouble if you make any rule concerning vowels without specifying how Y will be treated, usually to say that it isn't one.

3iff gave instructions on how the Y should be treated in the rule, so I'm not sure why you posted this. As I read it, "exclude the letter Y" means that you can not use it as one of the swapped vowels.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:17 pm    Post subject: 117 Reply with quote

I was responding to his post 109. I saw that he had excluded it, but I was just clarifying why that was such a good idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:42 pm    Post subject: 118 Reply with quote

Buoy is an interesting one because the pronunciation changes regionally. It can be either like "boy" or "boi-ee".
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:39 am    Post subject: 119 Reply with quote

Zag wrote:
I was responding to his post 109. I saw that he had excluded it, but I was just clarifying why that was such a good idea.


That's why I asked for a clarification as to whether it was considered a vowel or not. As there was no previous ruling on it, I decided that I would declare it a non-vowel. Not doing so would have caused even more confusion.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: 120 Reply with quote

MatthewV wrote:
Buoy is an interesting one because the pronunciation changes regionally. It can be either like "boy" or "boi-ee".

I pronounce it "boo-ee."
And without meaning to derail, I would argue that Y should *always* be a vowel. Even in "yank" it is making a (very quick) 'ee' sound. By the same token I think W should always be a vowel, though only puzzlers/linguists *ever* consider it one.
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