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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:13 pm    Post subject: 81 Reply with quote

3iff: Fred is as likely as any other player to start off mafia. No more, no less.

Vote: Amb Let the newb have a chance to play before starting the heavy bandwagoning.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:24 pm    Post subject: 82 Reply with quote

Official vote count for the new page.

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           3iff: Amb
            Amb: ralphmerridew
        bgg1996:
          Ctorj:
      Deception: Perpentach Ctorj
  Garou_Kinfolk:
    isauteikisa:
  Jedo the Jedi:
  Lifeinmomland: Jedo
       Lucresia:
         MNOWAX:
     Perpentach: Deception
  ralphmerridew:
        Sentran:
     Silverfire:
          spyrl:
Undercover Monk: Sentran
       No Lynch: MNOWAX UMonk

Not voting:
Lucresia isauteikisa Silverfire spyrl 3iff
bgg Lifeinmomland Garou


I'll try to add an official vote count near the top of every page. If there's anything else I can do to make the game run more smoothly, feel free to let me know.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: 83 Reply with quote

that votecount is wrong btw LOL Unvote I dont want to bandwagon the newb so I will join Jedo in voting. Vote:Lifeinmomland
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject: 84 Reply with quote

Is there an actual error that I've made? (That is, is there anything other than my interpretation of what a vote for the mod means, which was not an error?)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:38 pm    Post subject: 85 Reply with quote

Hey, people are being really nice to me (at last). Probably feel guilty for killing me (well, my previous incarnation) off last night.

This niceness won't last...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:18 pm    Post subject: 86 Reply with quote

no i was just messing with you Zag lol you are doin fine Enthusiastic Grin
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:55 pm    Post subject: 87 Reply with quote

I think I saw what you are talking about Garou, Amb, but I've never really given that much stock. It's worth keeping an eye on. (Then again, I may be totally off-base and now look stupid.)

More Mom votes?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:56 pm    Post subject: 88 Reply with quote

Lifeinmomland interesting response, for the record I find that response scummy.

Also would like to note that MNO's two posts consist of RVS on someone as a way of not answering the RQS and a joke post.

There are plenty of game related things to comment on but MNO is trying to slide into the background it would seem.

Pert has answered my vote so I'll Vote: MNO

For the record, Lifeinmomland is my biggest scumread right now (although not that great, tis early on) but MNO needs to give us more content.

cjort also had a poor excuse for not answering the questions.

isuateikisa is MIA?
bgg1996 could you respond to when I said that I was referring to "real world?"
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:13 pm    Post subject: 89 Reply with quote

Thinking about it, yes, I would lie a whole lot more;
"Who am I? I am the president of the Universe, don't you recognize me?"
"You're the guy who owes me $100,000,000,000,000! And you are, too!"
"Don't you remember? It's me, your boyfriend."
"These aren't the droids you're looking for."
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:52 am    Post subject: 90 Reply with quote

any reasoning to go along with that deception? It's one thing to bandwagon for bandwagon's sake but quite another to say someone said or did something scummy.

What was it that momland said? I may have to lead a newb lynch.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:59 am    Post subject: 91 Reply with quote

in fact the only even reasonable chance for a scum tell in the post is the opening paragraph....

Lifeinmomland wrote:
An interesting way to fish for info, so bold. At yet it has worked well. As for me I will answer some of your questions, but some I consider to esoteric to bother with. I could lie, but why bother. It is much more likely you are scum and will later use this info to turn townies on townies, than your claim of feeling out personalities.


I actually happen to agree with her reasonings along this line. Its a great way to seem like your scum hunting but I'm not sure the question show us anything about the actual game. Just like thos stupid personallity tests you take in school cant predict what job you will get.

I think its more likely you will use this to show look guys I was actually doing something. Scum wouldnt be so inquisitive. Of course now we are getting into a WIFOM situation but a definite FOS:deception

[inside joke to the veterens] If deception starts self-voting its not my fault I swear!!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:11 am    Post subject: 92 Reply with quote

Well.. I was planning to wait until others had responded before I said why, but since I made that post I've been considering it and I would still be fine in explaining.

Lifeinmomland analyzed the questions from a different perspective than anyone else did. She broke them down to the bare essence of "how could this trip mafia up?". Also she says that I'm fishing for info in a way that implies that I am going to use the information with malicious intent, yet goes on to answer them anyway. Anyone else seeing contradictory thought process which not only points finger of suspicion at me(a townie) and blends in with the crowd by answering the questions like almost everyone else?

The answer to her first two questions are very inaccurate and tell me nothing.

Answer to question three starts out questioning the question, which is fine but I think that combined with the answer that attempts to destroy the question itself is suspicious.

Answer to question 4 is null.

Answer to final question is null for now.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:25 am    Post subject: 93 Reply with quote

Undercover Monk wrote:
there is nothing in the rules about not voting the mod. I protest this treatment of my good friend MNO. Vote:Zag Afterall MNOWAX is still busy running Top GL'er Laughing


god I miss that. I will probably revive it as soon as i can write out challenges that people won't drop out of immediately. Team challenge anyone?

as for this game.....

Unvote, Vote Deception.
His running the game started out on the first post, and while it was joking at first, it as now become a problem. Lynch him.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:42 am    Post subject: 94 Reply with quote

Deception is currently responsible for more than 10% of the posts in this thread. The phrase give a man enough rope, and he will hang himself doesnt really work here - when Deception makes the rope himself - but it does work in this context:

Deception will a) Out himself as a threat to the mafia if his content starts impinging on their freedom, or b) Out himself as mafia thoroughly - the more a scum posts, the more that cracks can appear.

So while I am in favour of FOSing him, I'd much prefer to lynch someone who lies low while appearing to still be following the game.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:44 am    Post subject: 95 Reply with quote

What I am saying here is: Deception plays in a way that guarantees his own death long term. So why waste time right now lynching him on day 1. Go for a player who contributes very little long term. It's a bit early to know who that will be, but candidates will start appearing not too far from now.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:00 am    Post subject: 96 Reply with quote

While I disagree with MNO's reasoning, I agree with the target.
Unvote, Vote: Deception
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:16 am    Post subject: 97 Reply with quote

Sentran wrote:
While I disagree with MNO's reasoning, I agree with the target.
Unvote, Vote: Deception


So if you disagree with his reasoning then you must have some reasoning of your own.

Care to share?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: 98 Reply with quote

Unvote; Vote Sentran
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:54 pm    Post subject: 99 Reply with quote

Deception, what was the last game of mafia you played?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:39 pm    Post subject: 100 Reply with quote

bgg1996 wrote:
Deception, what was the last game of mafia you played?


The last one that ended was within the month of August. I am currently involved in more than one mafia game.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:42 pm    Post subject: 101 Reply with quote

What not when was your last ended mafia game.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:52 pm    Post subject: 102 Reply with quote

bgg1996 wrote:
What not when was your last ended mafia game.


You want a link to my other games? Well then I'll have to tell you that the only game I can offer of any recent affiliation with me (the one which ended in august) was a newbie game.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17803

My username on that website is Junpei.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:18 pm    Post subject: 103 Reply with quote

I can't help but notice that in said game, although you answered other's questions, you didn't ask anybody else questions.
Did you just start that now?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:22 pm    Post subject: 104 Reply with quote

bgg1996 wrote:
I can't help but notice that in said game, although you answered other's questions, you didn't ask anybody else questions.
Did you just start that now?


These questions which I've asked you all are a recently made set of questions. However later in the day you'll notice that I do in fact ask two questions I believe.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:24 pm    Post subject: 105 Reply with quote

That's all for now.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: 106 Reply with quote

I'm happy with my Mom vote for now. I'll try to read back over (probably Monday) and see if I can pull out some awesome scum tell.

(Does the arrogance ever end, you ask. The answer is no.) Revenge most foul!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:36 pm    Post subject: 107 Reply with quote

Deception wrote:
Well.. I was planning to wait until others had responded before I said why, but since I made that post I've been considering it and I would still be fine in explaining.


so you wanted someone else to explain your reasoning for finding momland suspicious.

Deception wrote:

Lifeinmomland analyzed the questions from a different perspective than anyone else did. She broke them down to the bare essence of "how could this trip mafia up?". Also she says that I'm fishing for info in a way that implies that I am going to use the information with malicious intent, yet goes on to answer them anyway. Anyone else seeing contradictory thought process which not only points finger of suspicion at me(a townie) and blends in with the crowd by answering the questions like almost everyone else?


There isn't a contridiction. I answered your questions though I still believe they tell us very little. In fact momland probably did the best job of answering them. That doesn't mean she is incorrect in her reasoning that you are trying very hard to appear helpful. It may just be a style of gameplay not used on the labyrinth, or it could be you saying "LOOK AT ME IM SCUMHUNTING!!!!"


Deception wrote:

The answer to her first two questions are very inaccurate and tell me nothing.

Answer to question three starts out questioning the question, which is fine but I think that combined with the answer that attempts to destroy the question itself is suspicious.

Answer to question 4 is null.

Answer to final question is null for now.


Now its this part of the post I have a big problem with. Questions 1 and 2 you claim as inaccurate but its essentially the same answer everyone has given we dont remember how many times weve been mafia cause we dont keep a stat list. In fact the only stat I remember is that for the past year 99%of the time (if Im not mafia) I have been right with my day 1 vote. so I dont find it scummy that she doesnt remember how many games she has played.

Her answer to 3 I completely agree with and wonder why you even asked it. I'm convinced. putting the bandwagon at 5 half-way to lynch Unvote, Vote: Deception
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:06 pm    Post subject: 108 Reply with quote

Undercover Monk wrote:
Deception wrote:
Well.. I was planning to wait until others had responded before I said why, but since I made that post I've been considering it and I would still be fine in explaining.


so you wanted someone else to explain your reasoning for finding momland suspicious.

Deception wrote:

Lifeinmomland analyzed the questions from a different perspective than anyone else did. She broke them down to the bare essence of "how could this trip mafia up?". Also she says that I'm fishing for info in a way that implies that I am going to use the information with malicious intent, yet goes on to answer them anyway. Anyone else seeing contradictory thought process which not only points finger of suspicion at me(a townie) and blends in with the crowd by answering the questions like almost everyone else?


There isn't a contridiction. I answered your questions though I still believe they tell us very little. In fact momland probably did the best job of answering them. That doesn't mean she is incorrect in her reasoning that you are trying very hard to appear helpful. It may just be a style of gameplay not used on the labyrinth, or it could be you saying "LOOK AT ME IM SCUMHUNTING!!!!"


Deception wrote:

The answer to her first two questions are very inaccurate and tell me nothing.

Answer to question three starts out questioning the question, which is fine but I think that combined with the answer that attempts to destroy the question itself is suspicious.

Answer to question 4 is null.

Answer to final question is null for now.


Now its this part of the post I have a big problem with. Questions 1 and 2 you claim as inaccurate but its essentially the same answer everyone has given we dont remember how many times weve been mafia cause we dont keep a stat list. In fact the only stat I remember is that for the past year 99%of the time (if Im not mafia) I have been right with my day 1 vote. so I dont find it scummy that she doesnt remember how many games she has played.

Her answer to 3 I completely agree with and wonder why you even asked it. I'm convinced. putting the bandwagon at 5 half-way to lynch Unvote, Vote: Deception


1) I'd be fine with that, but it was actually to see if anyone else did the same thing. Here you acknowledge that I held off on giving this reasoning for a purpose credited to scumhunting, yet later say I am only giving the appearance of scumhunting.

2) Yes you think they do very little, that's fine. She thinks that they are meant to be used in a fashion that will harm town. She thinks that I intend to use the answers we give in a malicious manner and still gives me the answers.

3) I was simply listing each answer, I wasn't implying that her inaccurate answers were individually scummy while someone elses inaccurate answer isn't. I was just going point by point. Also my point about number 3 is that she DID break it down. You may have thought "that question seems useless" but she went the extra step of "how can this hurt scum, what possible purpose could this question serve" which seems to me like scum trying to break the question to prevent me from getting anything out of it.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:54 pm    Post subject: 109 Reply with quote

In post 92 Decption says I have a different perspective than most. He skews my perseption to his own uses, as I perdict he will continue to do with most of the answers people give. My perspective is not "How could this trip mafia up?" but is in fact "How will the mafia twist my words to thier advantage?"

It might help for you to know I proceed into games with a guilty until proven innocent mentality.Twisted Evil

I agree with Monk, how is my answer any more inaccurate than most others? You are looking for ways to twist my answers already. I could go back on this list I guess, had I time, to see if I had played mafia in any other game, but none but the first stand out in my memory at all. Unfortunaly I don't have time to that. Since you seem to expect the rest of use to keep a detailed list of the when, where, and what of all our mafia games, shall we expect you to post a complete listing of yours now?

I question #3. Yes I do. Perhaps I am bit paranoid, but I expect later on someone will come along and say... "See so and so is scum! In is answers to Decptions questions he even says he would lie!" Or inversly "He said in would not lie and more than normal and we just caught him in this lie! He must be scum!" It is a question that is designed to give fodder to you mafia people. The fact that you asked it in the first place is skevvy.

The answer to my last questions are null apperently.

Honestly, I feel you are the scummest out here so far. I will state, and the players that know me can attest to this, I hate random day one silly voting. I answered your questions because I felt, and still feel that dispite the inane quality of question 3 it is better than random silly voting. It gets us moving to a conclusion sooner than silliness, and rahter than dragging on for days and becoming boring, this has proved interesting much sooner.

I fell comfortable putting my vote out now. VOTE DECEPTION
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:11 pm    Post subject: 110 Reply with quote

Lifeinmomland wrote:
In post 92 Decption says I have a different perspective than most. He skews my perseption to his own uses, as I perdict he will continue to do with most of the answers people give. My perspective is not "How could this trip mafia up?" but is in fact "How will the mafia twist my words to thier advantage?"

It might help for you to know I proceed into games with a guilty until proven innocent mentality.Twisted Evil

I agree with Monk, how is my answer any more inaccurate than most others? You are looking for ways to twist my answers already. I could go back on this list I guess, had I time, to see if I had played mafia in any other game, but none but the first stand out in my memory at all. Unfortunaly I don't have time to that. Since you seem to expect the rest of use to keep a detailed list of the when, where, and what of all our mafia games, shall we expect you to post a complete listing of yours now?

I question #3. Yes I do. Perhaps I am bit paranoid, but I expect later on someone will come along and say... "See so and so is scum! In is answers to Decptions questions he even says he would lie!" Or inversly "He said in would not lie and more than normal and we just caught him in this lie! He must be scum!" It is a question that is designed to give fodder to you mafia people. The fact that you asked it in the first place is skevvy.

The answer to my last questions are null apperently.

Honestly, I feel you are the scummest out here so far. I will state, and the players that know me can attest to this, I hate random day one silly voting. I answered your questions because I felt, and still feel that dispite the inane quality of question 3 it is better than random silly voting. It gets us moving to a conclusion sooner than silliness, and rahter than dragging on for days and becoming boring, this has proved interesting much sooner.

I fell comfortable putting my vote out now. VOTE DECEPTION


Well then by that logic you skewed my perspective by saying that I was thinking "I'm going to use these answers to hurt town" when in reality I was thinking "I'm going to use these answers to scumhunt and aid town". Your supposed scumtell is something you committed, you just got scummier.

Guilty until proven innocent is a bad mentality and I'll show you why with an example of your reads soon.

You obviously didn't read the post I made just before yours, if you had then that third paragraph wouldn't exist.

You think I'm the scummiest? Well everyone is guilty until proven innocent correct? Guilty is as scummy as you can get ergo it isn't my actions that you perceive as scummy so much as you perceive others' actions as town. However you make no note of this only that I am scum, however if everyone starts as guilty then shouldn't you be looking for people who are proving themselves innocent, not guilty? Your stance on guilty until proven innocent just seems to me like an excuse to attack anyone you want.

Also your logic for why Question 3 is really poor. Do you honestly think I'm going to go "Lifeinmomland said that he'd be willing to lie ergo he is lying ergo scum"? That's horrible logic! We aren't in a world where we'd be assumed truthful in the manner that situation applies so using the answers directly like that is pointless. The question serves insight into your mind and your personality without being obvious about it.

So to be clear: You think that giving the mafia something that will turn town on each other is better than random voting?

vote lifeinmomland

A pressure vote is not needed anymore as his content will make itself apparent or even more scarce on its own anyway. We likely have scum here.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:27 pm    Post subject: 111 Reply with quote

Unvote; Vote LifeinMomLand
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:17 pm    Post subject: 112 Reply with quote

Ambs votes with no explanation are worrying me.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:24 pm    Post subject: 113 Reply with quote

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1) I'd be fine with that, but it was actually to see if anyone else did the same thing. Here you acknowledge that I held off on giving this reasoning for a purpose credited to scumhunting, yet later say I am only giving the appearance of scumhunting.


I acknowledge nothing. let me quote what I said

Quote:
so you wanted someone else to explain your reasoning for finding momland suspicious.


now granted this is internet land so you couldnt here the incredulous voice I used to ask the question. (I know I forgot the question mark) So let me riterate this

If you had said something in LIML post just struck you as scummy I wouldnt have had a problem with it. But you didnt do that. You said that LIML's post was scummy period. but didnt post your reasoning. Then you told us you were waiting to see if someone else caught it. That is what is scummy.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: 114 Reply with quote

Undercover Monk wrote:
Then you told us you were waiting to see if someone else caught it. That is what is scummy.


No.. I didn't. I said that I was waiting to see if anyone else did the same thing.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:44 am    Post subject: 115 Reply with quote

Just so we are clear, what same thing? The specific reason I am scummy is? That I think you are trying to draw out info for later twisting while pretending to be a helpful townie? So an opinion not your own is what you find scummy??

And I agree AMB random voting is odd for him. Perhaps he has been possessed by MNO?

So, it is a small fact but I begin to wonder how much reading of posts you do if you have missed this rather simple fact.
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In my post 80 I refer to myself as both a mother and a wife

In post 91 I am AGAIN refered to as a her by Undercover Monk.

Just saying.

Moving on. Your argument proves my point. Thank you. Question 3 can be twisted anyway you look at it becasue it is all about perspective. I do look for innocence, and when something strikes me as particularly skevvy I point it out. I believe in going into thigs with my eyes wide open. Rather than refusing to answer your questions, I stated my opinion that one of them was esoteric. By that I mean, since I wonder at you ability to understand, this info is ment to be interpeted by a few, namely mafia, for thier use. I considered my answers and determined that from me at least there was little that could be twisted. Apparently I was wrong. You have said I twisted your intent, I say you would like to control perception but cannot. I find it interesting that you do not find it scummy to not answer your question. Only someone having a different opiinion of your intent is scummy I guess.

We could if we wanted go over your answers with a fine tooth comb, but I say this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Your own answers are as inaccurate as you claim mine are. In fact I gave MORE info out in my answer. The first two answers tell you nothing? Apprently not, since you can't even take from them that I am female. Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:07 am    Post subject: 116 Reply with quote

Deception, hat are the points of questions 1 and 3?
I would understand how many games of mafia have you played, but why specify scum games?
And anybody who doesn't say that they would tell somebody that they were the president or something similiar in question 3 is a liar.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:12 am    Post subject: 117 Reply with quote

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Just so we are clear, what same thing? The specific reason I am scummy is? That I think you are trying to draw out info for later twisting while pretending to be a helpful townie? So an opinion not your own is what you find scummy??

And I agree AMB random voting is odd for him. Perhaps he has been possessed by MNO?

So, it is a small fact but I begin to wonder how much reading of posts you do if you have missed this rather simple fact.
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Lifeinmomland would like to join up if it's not too late, but she's out school shopping at present.


In my post 80 I refer to myself as both a mother and a wife

In post 91 I am AGAIN refered to as a her by Undercover Monk.

Just saying.

Moving on. Your argument proves my point. Thank you. Question 3 can be twisted anyway you look at it becasue it is all about perspective. I do look for innocence, and when something strikes me as particularly skevvy I point it out. I believe in going into thigs with my eyes wide open. Rather than refusing to answer your questions, I stated my opinion that one of them was esoteric. By that I mean, since I wonder at you ability to understand, this info is ment to be interpeted by a few, namely mafia, for thier use. I considered my answers and determined that from me at least there was little that could be twisted. Apparently I was wrong. You have said I twisted your intent, I say you would like to control perception but cannot. I find it interesting that you do not find it scummy to not answer your question. Only someone having a different opiinion of your intent is scummy I guess.

We could if we wanted go over your answers with a fine tooth comb, but I say this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Your own answers are as inaccurate as you claim mine are. In fact I gave MORE info out in my answer. The first two answers tell you nothing? Apprently not, since you can't even take from them that I am female. Razz


Can't decide if this is the post of a persistent mafia or a misguided townie.

Your first paragraph is terrible on its own. I already pointed out what specifically in your post I found scummy. Go reread, I don't think that saying that you think I'm trying to draw out info is scummy, rather the contradiction that that entails. I just stated my opinion that you were trying to be cautious scum and you called that a scumtell. Both opinions reference a possible motive behind ones action, the difference is that you called mine scummy for the sake of inventing a scumtell while contradicting yourself by doing it yourself. Opinions that aren't your own are not scummy, once again you are either mafia trying to drag this out forever while I still have majority on me or very misguided and perhaps foolish townie. Quote me saying where having opinions that aren't your own are scummy.

I call you a she almost every single instance, there is only one instance that I called you a he. That is a lot different than you completely not reading a post while you tunneltunneltunnel on someone for reasons which I have shown are flawed based on your actions.

Okay, Question 3 can be answered almost any way. BUT it is how they answer which attributes itself to scumhunting! Honestly go to every single persons' response and find a way to call it scummy and town. That's right you can't because you can't just call something scummy due to the fact that it is how it is. Contradictions exist which is what you fail to realize and is what you are getting caught up in.

Ugh, this post is frustrating to read... Please tell me there is another townie out there who is willing to read this whole conversation so that you can see how BS it is? Read the whole conversation, not just this post, if you don't read the whole conversation you won't realize how terrible an argument she is making.

YOU SAID that MY QUESTIONS could ONLY RESULT IN ANSWERS that would be used BY ME with MALICIOUS INTENT to turn TOWN ON TOWN, ergo ANTI-TOWN RESULTS. Yet you proceeded to answer them anyway. That is a contradiction no matter how you word it, stop trying to twist and squirm, you are scum caught in a web. You can't put a square into a circle and hope that no one other than the person who is arguing with you will notice.

Your last paragraph is full of ignorance of my questions and their purpose, it isn't meant to be "who gives the most information", I don't care about how much information is provided specifically rather the answer in its entirely when matched up against the persons' play all day/game.

"The first two answers tell you nothing? Apprently not, since you can't even take from them that I am female."

What the fuck does this mean?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:17 am    Post subject: 118 Reply with quote

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Deception, hat are the points of questions 1 and 3?
I would understand how many games of mafia have you played, but why specify scum games?
And anybody who doesn't say that they would tell somebody that they were the president or something similiar in question 3 is a liar.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:18 am    Post subject: 119 Reply with quote

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And I agree AMB random voting is odd for him. Perhaps he has been possessed by MNO?

I get the idea that it wasn't random, merely unexplained.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:19 am    Post subject: 120 Reply with quote

bgg1996 wrote:
Deception, hat are the points of questions 1 and 3?
I would understand how many games of mafia have you played, but why specify scum games?
And anybody who doesn't say that they would tell somebody that they were the president or something similiar in question 3 is a liar.


God damnit, there is at least 1 (I think 2 maybe? I haven't recorded them all yet) people who haven't answered my questions, and now their answers will be slightly less useful.

Question 1 could to a multitude of things. To be honest I have only used these questions once before I believe and I don't know the flips of every response. However I can say that scum are more weary of the question, I can say that town are more forthcoming.

Question 3 is just another big scum "omg what do" test. I said "lie" in particular because in this game scum lie much more often than town. Also, things like what lifeinmomland did can happen. I'm in a game on another site where I used those questions, and I've already had at least 1 instance where it has helped me scumhunt. When the game finishes (won't be for a while) I"ll be able to show you how I used the questions specifically. Otherwise just wait for me to use them in this game. It is hard to put it into words what it specifically does because it is a purely case by case thing as I match it up to the answerers' specific play.

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And anybody who doesn't say that they would tell somebody that they were the president or something similiar in question 3 is a liar.


Interesting conclusion, so how many people here are liars?
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