Inventors 2 has ended! Congratulations, Team Ganymede!

[mathgrant]

[stolen from groza528, who will also serve as co-mod]

3iff defeated by ralphmerridew

Amb defeated by ralphmerridew

bgg1996 Status: wearing Genuine imitation horsehair false beard
* Amb's AntiMatthewV Gun (96): Target, who is legally able to declare victory, must declare victory.
* 3iff's Get a Clue (100): The target is obliged to provide a clue (publicly) to their team name. The clue must be clear enough for the Mod to understand or the Mod may insist on a better clue. The target may not use another invention until the mod declares the clue satisfactory. The clue must be different to any previous clue given by any other player. (If the teamname was "Frog" then a clue of "Animal" would be sufficient)
* Scurra's Inception Deception (115): The target of this invention is transported to a Dreamworld. All players in the Dreamworld retain their previous invention queues, but they are collectively considered part of a separate game of Inventors running parallel to the Realworld game. Players return to the Real World if a) They are part of a successful victory claim, b) They are part of a successful defeat claim, or c) Any player or mod rolls a 1 with dice tags.

jesus_saves
* bgg1996's Scrambler (56): Randomizes the order of the target player's invention queue.
* Amb's BiblebasherGun (35): Target's next invention must include a Bible verse in the name, and have a function derived from that verse; otherwise, the target must announce their own team publicly.
* ralphmerridew's Portable Lobachevsky Cable (44): Change the inventor of one device in any queue by the user to any player. Both device and new inventor are selected by the user; this may not result in one queue having two inventions from the same inventor.
* MatthewV's SPAMALOT (47): If the user uses SPAMALOT in a post with at least 200 words, the device will announce the name of a random player besides the user and (via mod PM) privately, and with 80% accuracy, tell the user whether or not the target is on the same team as the user.
* 3iff's Match Maker V.095 (43): With 80% accuracy, glows red if the user and the target are on the same team, and does nothing otherwise.
* Scurra's Inception Deception (115): The target of this invention is transported to a Dreamworld. All players in the Dreamworld retain their previous invention queues, but they are collectively considered part of a separate game of Inventors running parallel to the Realworld game. Players return to the Real World if a) They are part of a successful victory claim, b) They are part of a successful defeat claim, or c) Any player or mod rolls a 1 with dice tags.

lexprod
* bgg1996's Initinalizer (123): Reveals (publicly) the first letter of the target player's team name if the target player is on the same team as you. Reveals (publicly) the last letter of the target player's team name if the target player is not on the same team as you. It is not revealed whether or not the target player is on the same team as you.

MatthewV Status: Subliminal Advertisement for 11 inventions, having used bgg1996, 3iff, and ralphmerridew
* bgg1996's Initinalizer (123): Reveals (publicly) the first letter of the target player's team name if the target player is on the same team as you. Reveals (publicly) the last letter of the target player's team name if the target player is not on the same team as you. It is not revealed whether or not the target player is on the same team as you.

ralphmerridew defeated by ralphmerridew

Scurra defeated by ralphmerridew

The game has now begun! You should each have received a PM containing your team name from either myself or mathgrant. As soon as you know what team you're on, start inventing!

Please post new inventions in the following format for ease
Recipient: Person to whom you are delivering this invention
Name: Name of Invention
Description: Description of Invention Effects

Please also refrain from using inventions until they have been checked by a mod as we might tweak them.

Everyone will secretly be divided into two or more teams. Each player will know what team *e is on, but nobody will know which team anybody else is on, at the start. You may discuss with one another PUBLICLY, but nobody is obligated to tell the truth about in-game elements except for the moderator(s).

Invent an item that will affect some element of gameplay, such as revealing someone's team to the user. The trick is, you don't get to use your own invention. You give it to some other player whose team you theoretically don't know. This will limit incentive for unbalancing inventions, but in the interest of fairness there are a few more caveats. NOTE: These rules are not set in stone. They are guidelines as to what sort of invention is likely to be disallowed.
1. An invention may directly affect only the user, one other player that is either of the user's choice or random, both, or neither. It may not affect players that the user does not choose, nor may it affect two or more players besides the user.
2. An invention may not permanently or indefinitely render anyone incapable of playing. Temporary blocking is okay, but for now, I'm going to impose an arbitrary limit of 24 hours, and the same player may not be blocked again for another 48 hours after that.
3. Any information that is exchanged by an invention will be done so via PM unless otherwise specified.
4. The invention must be completely described via the initial post in the thread; no hidden features.
5. A player will always know what their own team name is even if an invention changes it.
6. The moderator(s) reserve the right to disallow or alter inventions. We'll try to contact you and discuss reworks before altering.

Inventions may only be used once and then are discarded. You may also choose not to use an invention that has been given to you (this is a built-in failsafe and cannot be affected by inventions). You may only possess one invention at a time from a single inventor, and you must use or discard inventions in the order they are received. Inventions take effect in the order in which they are used.

The object of the game is to identify your team name and all members on your team, but you may NOT declare victory unless you have an invention that allows you to do so. Exception: if you believe that all remaining players are on your team, you may claim victory without an invention. Similarly, you may declare DEFEAT for another team by listing *their* team name and all of the members on their team, if you have an invention that permits you to do so. Doing so will eliminate that team. Declaring victory or defeat incorrectly will have no effect, but if you're wrong you may not try again until some other player has done so.
The above two inventions are the only exceptions to rules 1 and 2.
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[bgg1996]

In.
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[ralphmerridew]

u!/

[MatthewV]

Sure, I will play. Last time I was helping mod and was very confused.

[Undercover Monk]

while this sounds like a lot of fun I just have too much on my plate to play right now. =(
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[3iff]

I don't understand this at all...

but...in

(Just read the original game...it's crazy)

[j_s*]

Considering...is there a lot of quick turnaround needed? If not (as in, if I can have a few days to post when it's my turn), then i m /in.

[groza528]

The way it worked in the previous game, there were no real turns. You were limited by the rule that states you can only have one invention from each player at a time, thus players who were more active were capable of using (and making) more devices, thereby allowing them a greater influence on the game.

[j_s*]

So...do you recommend i play anyway?

[Scurra]

I had no memory of the original game (probably because it moved a little too fast for me) although I still think I had one really good pun in there.

But I'm willing to give this another go.
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[mathgrant]

Just so you know, all discussion of this game, excluding discussion between the two moderators, is to be done publicly in this thread, and not via PM. This includes both player-to-player discussion and player-to-mod discussion.

[groza528]

[j_s*]

Because I do everything Groza tells me*, /in.

_{*not even close to true.}

[3iff]

Thanks. I think I understand all that.

I'm busy writing inventions which will probably need to get rewritten before I submit them. Probably got more ideas than I will ever use...whether they will be on any use is another matter.

[3iff]

Another question.

Is it possible to have an invention that creates an effect on a player and that effect remains in force until something happens to 'use up' the effect?

For example (using an effect not relevant to this game).

Player A gets (and wears) a bulletproof jacket that can stop one shot. That jacket remains in force until someone shoots at Player A (or Player A decides to remove the jacket)?

Player A is then free to use other things while retaining the protection of the jacket...

[groza528]

I would probably accept that, but I would suppose that sustained effects would prohibit that player from collecting other inventions from the player. Also keep in mind that the definition of "shot" and "bullet" would probably be a little bit fluid.

I would *not* accept an invention such as
Name: Dart of Atychiphobia
Description: User targets a player of their choice with the dart. Target player is so overcome with fear of failure that they cannot attempt to declare victory until someone else declares victory incorrectly, thus proving it is not fatal.

[3iff]

That's fine.

I have a few ideas for sustained effect (one time use) but nothing that blocking. Besides, the mod has final say over powers...I'm just looking to think of things that wouldn't be vetoed.

I only used "shot" and "bullet" in the context of the example...I agree that they're both meaningless and too rigid for this game.

[j_s*]

when is this starting?

[groza528]

I'd like to get a few more players first... Last time we had three teams of three.

[Amb]

I'll be in.

[itisally]

Keep thinking about it but I am scared of this game. I think I will just have to watch it one time around.
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[MatthewV]

Just play. There probably won't be another game of this anytime soon.

[mathgrant]

[Amb]

Can we make a player have post restrictions: eg Dyslexia proof machine: Target one player whom you will find out if they are on the same team as you, but your next three posts must mispell every word you post.

[Amb]

Are there penalties for posting invalid inventions: eg Megadeath - all people in the same team as your target die. (potentially violates the rule about more than 2 players).

[mathgrant]

[Amb]

Can you link game 1?

[MatthewV]

It is linked in you look carefully in the first few words of the opening post.

or by clicking here.

[3iff]

I've read through game 1 about 4 times now...don't expect an easy ride...but it must be hell for the mods.

[mathgrant]

[bgg1996]

*ahem*
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[lexprod]

/in and my first invention is to remove the "Electric Boogalo" from the title
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[groza528]

But now it's Inventors "2!" instead of Inventors "2". Which makes literally no difference, mathematically speaking.

OK! We now have even teams, we will be sending PMs shortly.

[groza528]

The game has now begun! You should each have received a PM containing your team name from either myself or mathgrant. As soon as you know what team you're on, start inventing!

Please post new inventions in the following format for ease
Recipient: Person to whom you are delivering this invention
Name: Name of Invention
Description: Description of Invention Effects

Please also refrain from using inventions until they have been checked by a mod as we might tweak them.

[Amb]

Recipient: Jesus_Saves
Name: BiblebasherGun
Description: Causes the target to have to invent their next weapon and give it a biblical theme. It must include a bible verse in the name, and the function must be clearly derived from that verse in the opinion of the mods. If the invention is deemed to have violated that, then the owner of the weapon must announce their own team publicly.

[bgg1996]

Recipient: Amb
Name: Awesome-0-Tron
Description: The Awesome-0-Tron, after use, is immediately converted into an Awesome-Token, and placed in the user's possession. Whoever holds the Awesome-Token can optionally negate the effect of any other invention that affects them. If they do, the Awesome-Token dissolves into useless Awesome-Dust.
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[Amb]

Whats the time limit before I can post another invention?

[3iff]

I think you can post a new invention for any player who doesn't already have an invention from you...so you can blitz out 7 items in one go if you want... (I stand to be correceted on this)

[3iff]

Recipient: MatthewV
Name: Trigger Finger
Description: A hand-shaped device that, when activated, causes a random invention in the target's queue to spontaneously activate. If that item requires targets then they are selected randomly. If there are no items in the original target's queue, then another random player's item queue is targeted instead. The hand glows an eerie green when activated.

[Scurra]

Recipient: ralphmerridew
Name: The Unspeakable
Description: Must be targeted at another player. Causes the target to be unable to say (within a single post) the full name of their own team if forced to do so by another invention. The effect cannot be negated by the target voluntarily attempting to say the name of their own team.
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