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jbvntx
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:48 am Post subject: 321 |
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I'm curious too. I'm sympathetic to MatthewV's position but he broke like three rules. The game rule about going out of order seems minor, but the rule he posted broke two of the players rules: no word with aeiou and he repeated the same word in his rule "a".
That's at least two buzzes. I'm all for forgiving him and moving on, but I'd like to point out that zag was eliminated for posting a valid rule with no errors, and it was his turn. He was just late. Seems like the penalties are varied.
I'd suggest that we forgive MatthewV and also bring back zag. It seems fairest. _________________ jbv |
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MatthewV
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:39 am Post subject: 322 |
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| I am hopeful that I can resign and have the round continue. |
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3iff
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:40 am Post subject: 323 |
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Catching up...
If MatthewV posted out of turn, then his rule is ignored, therefore it can't be buzzed for other infractions. If MatthewV wishes to resign then he may do so (just post here if you wish to do so) but we will continue the round.
Perhaps the Zag buzz was a bit harsh, but I won't be resetting the game yet again just to bring him back.
jbv: I suggest you try moderating one of these games...it's really not as easy as it looks.  |
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Jack_Ian
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject: 324 |
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| 3iff wrote: |
| Perhaps the Zag buzz was a bit harsh |
Well his post did breach a stated rule and he was buzzed for it, so I think you made the right choice.
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| If MatthewV wishes to resign then he may do so (just post here if you wish to do so) but we will continue the round. |
| MatthewV wrote: |
| I am hopeful that I can resign and have the round continue. |
So I guess I'm in. I'll post one later today. Thanks for the clarification. |
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Jack_Ian
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:40 pm Post subject: 325 |
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| continuance equation lettercount divided by wordcount calculation producing eight minimum |
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject: 326 |
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| If you want help locating the palindrome, you can find it here. |
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jbvntx
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: 327 |
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Sorry, I didn't mean to sound critical of 3iff's job. I agree, it's hard to keep everyone happy and I think you're doing great. _________________ jbv |
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MatthewV
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: 328 |
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Rules games really only be run about once a year. It is a new meta rule.
As I made multiple mistakes, I feel it is my duty to resign. I am not a crook. |
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Zag
Tired of his old title
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject: 329 |
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I was legitimately buzzed for violating a stated rule. 3iff made a good ruling and there's no reason for him to go back on it. (But I do appreciate the support, jbv.)
There's nothing stated, however, that you can't make post when it isn't your turn. (It is even encouraged.) If that post looks suspiciously like a rule, well, that's for the other players to figure out that it isn't one, really. Maybe an unaware player will be so stressed trying to follow your pretend rule that he'll mess up on a real one. That sounds like a good (if devious) strategy. |
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3iff
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:16 am Post subject: 330 |
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| Zag wrote: |
| I was legitimately buzzed for violating a stated rule. 3iff made a good ruling and there's no reason for him to go back on it. |
And that's how I saw it. Another person made the buzz and I followed the 'rules'. It felt a tad harsh but that's how it goes.
As for the rule posted out of turn, I didn't see any problem...we just ignore it. It's not something I would encourage as a strategy though.
| MatthewV wrote: |
| Rules games really only be run about once a year. It is a new meta rule. |
Let's make it once every 2 years. |
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jbvntx
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: 331 |
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Here goes... jack_ian's rule was hard . I won't be surprised if I messed something up here. _________________ jbv |
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jbvntx
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: 332 |
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NEW LeTteR nAMe manDated wItHin eaCh indiVidUal wOrd caPitaliZed altoGether interJectionallY enaBling QuicKer proXimate identiFication _________________ jbv |
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: 333 |
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BUZZ!
| DMTsurel wrote: |
| Proceed to the next level by having in your regulation a word lacking no vowel except Y. |
You don't have a word with a,e,i,o & u but without y. |
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jbvntx
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:34 pm Post subject: 334 |
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oops. I had copied all the rules into another file because they're not bolded, so they're hard to pick out from the regular posts...
Well, almost all the rules. _________________ jbv |
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DMTsurel
The Other Israeli
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:18 pm Post subject: 335 |
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| Use exclusively words of prime lengths. One is not prime, and neighboring punctuation is not counted. |
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MatthewV
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject: 336 |
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| The requirement is to have a word that, in plain English, includes "all the vowels except Y". I don't see why such a word cannot have a Y in it. The statement merely says it doesn't have to include the Y. No? |
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Zag
Tired of his old title
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:48 am Post subject: 337 |
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| I agree. The "except Y" sounds like it is to clarify that Y is not included in the phrase "all vowels," not to say that it can't be included in the word. If it had said "all vowels except D" your response would have been, "but D isn't a vowel." |
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Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:18 am Post subject: 338 |
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It can be read either way. If anything, that rule probably should have been zapped.
Another approach:
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| Ambiguous rules will be given the tougher interpretation for the rulemaker, and the lenient one for the other players. In general, though, if the intent of your rule is clear from the way you have followed it then, if valid, that interpretation will be accepted. |
DMT should follow the "all vowels and no letter 'y'," whereas everybody else just needs one word with all vowels. _________________ Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting. |
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3iff
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:41 am Post subject: 339 |
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If I understand it correctly, the BUZZ is for jbvntx not including a word containing one of aeiou (regardless of the 'y' controversy).
If so, then BUZZ upheld. If I'm wrong (wouldn't be surprised...) shout out.
We start a new round as from post 335 (from DMT). That leaves three players in the running. |
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MatthewV
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:16 pm Post subject: 340 |
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Oh right. I saw a word that I thought had all the vowels in it. It didn't.  |
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3iff
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:30 pm Post subject: 341 |
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| I had to check a few times just to make sure... |
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Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject: 342 |
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...*blinks*
Alright, who's the Rhetor who changed his words? _________________ Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting. |
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Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:52 pm Post subject: 343 |
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To prevent being muddled, words may not contain apostrophes. _________________ Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland |
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:20 pm Post subject: 344 |
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| Equally letter-counted words are intolerable. |
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Jack_Ian
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:37 pm Post subject: 345 |
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Immediately after posting this rule, I realised that it might break the rule that prevented rules restricting word-count to under 16.
However then I remembered you can use anything-I-want-as-an-adjective words, so although difficult, it should be possible.
If requested by 3iff, or if I have time, I will present an example of a 17-word rule. |
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DMTsurel
The Other Israeli
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:42 pm Post subject: 346 |
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| Use parentheses in rules (clarification reasons). |
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3iff
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:21 am Post subject: 347 |
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| Keep going...rules look ok so far. |
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Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:03 am Post subject: 348 |
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I'm just about to post my rule. It's a bit convoluted, so if I get buzzed for it, I'll understand. _________________ Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland |
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Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:03 am Post subject: 349 |
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(My two cents) buildup categorical numerological character-counting. _________________ Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland |
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Jack_Ian
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject: 350 |
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I feel that your rule would make it impossible to make a 17-word rule. Any of the constructions I considered involved using the smaller words at the end.
I'm not about to buzz though, since nobody forced me to prove my rule complied with that particular requirement.
It took me a while to figure out your rule, but I'm assuming it means that the words should go in ascending order of size. Although there does not seem to be a requirement to not skip a prime. |
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject: 351 |
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| (in the rules) Reverse seven-letter multi-syllable, space-traversingly ultra-hyper-concealed. |
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3iff
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject: 352 |
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| What's that in English? |
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Jack_Ian
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:48 pm Post subject: 353 |
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Seven-letter multi-syllabled word to be hidden within the rule with the characters in reverse order, spread over at least 2 words.
It was a bit of a stretch, but I figured a multi-syllable could denote a multi-syllabled word. |
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DMTsurel
The Other Israeli
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:43 pm Post subject: 354 |
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| (Me, sir!) periods interdicted |
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Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: 355 |
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(se per) rules Reverse _________________ Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland |
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: 356 |
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BUZZ
I believe your rule states "Reverse rules (per se)"
If I understand the rules of this game correctly, your rule needs to obey previous rules before any transformation rather than after any transformation is complete.
Your rule only fulfills the requirements after it is reversed. |
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:23 pm Post subject: 357 |
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BUZZ withdrawn
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| A rule as published must meet the current rules. |
OK better put my thinking cap on. |
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:16 pm Post subject: 358 |
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| !KO oot sdrow esrever (cipytoerets ylgnitartsurF) |
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DMTsurel
The Other Israeli
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject: 359 |
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| What's your seven-lettered word? |
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:28 am Post subject: 360 |
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| glyster |
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