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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: 1241 Reply with quote

Ivo Andric (Budapest – Belgrade) D343 - JEWEL - WEW
Leo Tolstoy (Helsinki – Moscow) 31 - DREAM - ED
Lincoln (Chicago – St Louis) 300-307 - SPIRIT - II
Karel Capek (Nuremberg – Prague) EX353 - RADIANCE - DAD
Copernicus (Amsterdam – Prague) CNL 457 - VOYAGER - AGR
Stendhal (Paris – Milan – Venice) EC220 - DESTINY - EE
Tosca (Vienna – Rome) EN235 - FANTASY - ANA
Hans Albers (Hamburg – Vienna) EN491 - MILLENIUM - LMM
Wolverine (Chicago – Pontiac) 350-355 - CONQUEST - NU-NUU
Salvador Dali (Barcelona – Milan) EN11273 - SOLSTICE - SSOCL
Frederic Chopin (Warsaw – Vienna) D407 - BELORUSSIYA - OS
Don Giovanni (Prague – Vienna – Venice) EN237 - REGATTA - EGA
Kalman (Munich – Budapest) EN463 - VISION - INS

Don't know if this is just random coincidence, but I'm recognizing some words here:
WE W-ED ... - DAD AGR-EE ... N U-S SO CL-OS-E GA-INS

I guess we need to identify the planes now.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: 1242 Reply with quote

novice wrote:
Ivo Andric (Budapest – Belgrade) D343 - JEWEL - WEW
Leo Tolstoy (Helsinki – Moscow) 31 - DREAM - ED
Lincoln (Chicago – St Louis) 300-307 - SPIRIT - II
Karel Capek (Nuremberg – Prague) EX353 - RADIANCE - DAD
Copernicus (Amsterdam – Prague) CNL 457 - VOYAGER - AGR
Stendhal (Paris – Milan – Venice) EC220 - DESTINY - EE
Tosca (Vienna – Rome) EN235 - FANTASY - ANA
Hans Albers (Hamburg – Vienna) EN491 - MILLENIUM - LUM
Wolverine (Chicago – Pontiac) 350-355 - CONQUEST - NU-NUU
Salvador Dali (Barcelona – Milan) EN11273 - SOLSTICE - SSOCL
Frederic Chopin (Warsaw – Vienna) D407 - BELORUSSIYA - OS
Don Giovanni (Prague – Vienna – Venice) EN237 - REGATTA - EGA
Kalman (Munich – Budapest) EN463 - VISION - INS

Don't know if this is just random coincidence, but I'm recognizing some words here:
WE W-ED ... - DAD AGR-EE ... N U-S SO CL-OS-E GA-INS

I guess we need to identify the planes now.


I make this mistake a lot too: millennium has two N's. so that gives even more words: An alumnus so close gains. But what does it mean??

"We wed...dad agree" at least fits with the flavor text.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:45 am    Post subject: 1243 Reply with quote

I think the Stendahl should be 221 not 220, and the Lincoln should be 301 which would makes the clue
WE WED IS DAD AGREED AN ALUMNUS SO CLOSE GAINS
The first part definitely fits the intro text.

Meanwhile, I also note that the next bit starts Isn't Air Travel Amazing, which spells IATA? So I presume we want the airline code rather than the plane models...


p.s. for some time around the turn of the century I had a .sig file which read: The Millennium Bug - an inability to spell the word "millennium" correctly.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:58 am    Post subject: 1244 Reply with quote

36. WC Islena
11. EE Eastern Sky Jets
37.
12. EG Japan Asia Airways
7. DA Air Georgia
18. IR Iran Air
29. SY Sun Country
8. DK Thomas Cook Scandinavia
1. AE Mandarin Airlines
9. DL Delta
2. YX Midwest Airlines???!!!
16. GY Gabon Airlines
28. RD Avianova (Italian)
13. EI Aer Lingus
14. ER Astar Air Cargo
10. DE Condor
3. AC Air Canada
23. NT Binter Canarias
4. AS Alaska Airlines
20. LT LTU
34. UH US Helicopter
22. MI SilkAir
24. NS Hebei Airlines
35. UF UM Air
30. SI Blue Islands
31. SR Swissair
26. OM Mongolian Airlines
6. CI China Airlines
21. LA LAN
27. OT Aeropelican
32. SA South African Airways
15. EC Avialeasing/SRX
17. GO ULS Airlines Cargo
5. AD Azul Brazilian
19. IE Solomon Airlines
25. NW Northwest
33. SN Brussels Airlines


OK, call in SOUTHWEST AIRLINES?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:00 am    Post subject: 1245 Reply with quote

(With my puzzle setters hat on) Wow, just wow. That's a really impressive feat of construction.

Back to the meta, and...

1. DRUNK TANK
2. BATED BREATH
3, BUSINESS TRAVELERS
4. LOVE ETC
5. START OVER
6.
7. CAR SEAT
8. CASH COW
9. MARS ROVER
10. FORGET PARIS
11. SOUTHWEST AIRLINES

OK, so they are all "phrases" of two words where one word is one letter longer than the other. I did wonder if you could remove a letter from the longer word to leave another valid word, but that doesn't work with a few of them. And anagramming doesn't seem to go anywhere much either.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:31 pm    Post subject: 1246 Reply with quote

My favorite picture from Zugzwaang: I call it "First stage test-solving"



Shortly thereafter: "No, 'resign' is incorrect"
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:44 pm    Post subject: 1247 Reply with quote

SOUTHWEST AIRLINES is correct.

The puzzle you're missing involved a QR code hunt around MIT campus. Its answer was VELVET ELVIS.

You have all the answers for that round now.

Which means...yay! New critic round! But...boo. I just realized you can't solve this critic meta because it requires an actual physical object handed to teams. Oh well. We'll solve the puzzles and then you can read the solution on how it worked. (Incentive to be at the MIT Mystery Hunt in person, I guess)

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:12 pm    Post subject: 1248 Reply with quote

It appears the blanks can be filled with words that look like they should rhyme, but don't...

They take deep breaths to renew life’s ___
And fight with explosives, blades and fire.
But many die: this enemy can clearly think.
It transforms and kills with apparent ___
Until only two remain in a nervous ceasefire.
Exhausted, they simply wait and drink.
(This poem is the plot to The Thing)


And it will mutate before the tale is OVER.
Heed this warning and take COVER.


A wager then, to see who can swindle a mark with the better plan.
Perhaps as a cripple or a doctor, roles played with great ___.
But if they are unaware of a third rival, the Jackal will strike,
Catch them pants down, and bury their pride in a seaside ___.
(This poem is the plot to Dirty Rotten Scoundrels)


Now we’ve resumed our journey.
The photog looks smart in his tie and ___.
Yet another passenger needs a gurney.
It would be better to have a ___,
(This poem is the plot to The Lady Vanishes)


Because when push comes to SHOVE
I would rather not be a government gun.
I’d rather have a treasure TROVE
Even if it meant living on the run.


And a lot of hard life lessons I’ve been TAUGHT.
I order a Sam Adams on DRAUGHT.


Knowing that while there will be no more goose liver ___,
But rather manna to sustain us, these two things do not ___.
(This poem is the plot to The Ten Commandments)


Skip past their house in the Far ___
Lest you find bodies lain ___.


Still, I acquiesce without missing a BEAT,
This labor may drown me in my own SWEAT.


Our numbers daily dwindle.
We do not have enough men.
The few left are green as a pitted OLIVE.
The 59th flies to challenge that fearful symbol
The Red Baron; I do not want deaths on my head again.
I fear none may come back ALIVE.


The police find new clues to forensically EXAMINE
And thereby deduce his daily ROUTINE,


I’m not a clever man, I kept putting my foot in my MOUTH.
But with awful manners, this weird family was quite COUTH.


We’ve wandered the American Southwest
For what seems like a YEAR.
With nary a moment of rest,
The heat of the sun is too much to BEAR.


The demo man creates a strong gust of WIND,
And the surveillance man will deliver you a pinch.
A contortionist to get out of a BIND,
Who is careful not to miss by an inch.
(This poem is the plot to Ocean's Eleven)


Now we share a victor’s ___,
And made this family again our ___.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: 1249 Reply with quote

I tried writing the answers in ziggurat form. Not very helpful, but I may as well post the results.

Code:

 T A N K
D R U N K

 B A T E D
B R E A T H

 B U S I N E S S
T R A V E L E R S

 E T C
L O V E

 O V E R
S T A R T

 E L V I S
V E L V E T

 C A R
S E A T

 C O W
C A S H

 M A R S
R O V E R

 P A R I S
F O R G E T

 A I R L I N E S
S O U T H W E S T
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:17 am    Post subject: 1250 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:

Because when push comes to SHOVE
I would rather not be a government gun.
I’d rather have a treasure TROVE
Even if it meant living on the run.
This poem is the plot to La Femme Nikita, or possibly Point of No Return


Knowing that while there will be no more goose liver ___,
But rather manna to sustain us, these two things do not ___.
(This poem is the plot to The Ten Commandments) - PATE AND MATE??



Now we share a victor’s ___,
And made this family again our ___ CROWN AND OWN
(This poem is the plot to The Parent Trap).
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:21 am    Post subject: 1251 Reply with quote

By the way these movies all seem to be remakes. The Parent Trap is the Lohan version, Point of No Return is more likely (the "escape through a chute" thing is in its wiki description) than La Femme Nikita...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:11 am    Post subject: 1252 Reply with quote

Yep...The Lady Vanishes described is the later (1979) non-Hitchcock version.

And Wikipedia says this about Dirty Rotten Scoundrels - "although it is not officially credited as a remake of Bedtime Story, it closely follows the plot of the 1964 film starring David Niven and Marlon Brando."
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:07 pm    Post subject: 1253 Reply with quote

With 15 poems and 30 blanks down below, separated into two lines of 15, each poem will contribute one blank to each half. I'm guessing the first word in each poem goes in the first half, sorted by date of the original film, and the second word goes in the second half, sorted by date of the remake.

1. 1951/1982: ?/? (The Thing)
2. ?/? : over/cover
3. 1964/1988: ?/? (Dirty Rotten Scoundrels)
4. 1938/1979: suit?/Jesuit? (the Lady Vanishes)
5. 1990/1993: shove/trove (Point of No Return)
6. ?/?: taught/draught (is this The Departed??? doesn't feel right)
7. 1923/1956: pate/elate? (The Ten Commandments)
8. 2003/2004: (East/ abreast? (The Grudge, I think)
9. 1944/1958: beat/sweat (Rock a Bye Baby)
10. 1930/1938: olive/alive (The Dawn Patrol)
11. 1931/1951: examine/routine (M)
12. 1932/1963: mouth/uncouth (The Old Dark House)
13. ?/?: year/bear
14. 1960/2001: wind/bind (Ocean's 11)
15. 1961/1998: crown/own (The Parent Trap)

Code:

_ _ _ _ _   _ _   _ _ _   _ _ _ _ _

 _ _ _   _ _ _ _ _ _ _   _ _   _ _ _   ???
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:23 pm    Post subject: 1254 Reply with quote

Looks like #9 is Rock-A-Bye Baby - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock-A-Bye_Baby_(film)

This is a loose remake of the 1944 film The Miracle of Morgan's Creek - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracle_of_Morgan%27s_Creek
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:24 pm    Post subject: 1255 Reply with quote

Looks like you already figured that out, just before I did Felicitous
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:46 pm    Post subject: 1256 Reply with quote

Line one (5/2/3/5):
23 P
30 O
31 E
32 M
38 S
44 B
51 ?
60 W
61 C
64 ?
90 S
03 E

O, T, Y still unplaced. If The Departed is correct, T goes right before the last E.

Second line (3/7/2/3)
38 A
51 R
56 E?
58 S
63 U
79 J?
82 ?
88 ?
93 T
98 O
01 B
04 A

B,C,D still unplaced; if The Departed is correct, D is at the end.

Perhaps...
POEMS BY LOW CASTE
ARE SUBJECT TO BAD

call in WASTE
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: 1257 Reply with quote

This puzzle is pretty funny to me, who's better at written than spoken english. Who knew CASTE doesn't rhyme with WASTE? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:57 pm    Post subject: 1258 Reply with quote

Wouldn't TASTE be more likely?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:05 pm    Post subject: 1259 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
Wouldn't TASTE be more likely?


Only if you want to be logical about it...

Oh, Jiminy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:45 pm    Post subject: 1260 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
Wouldn't TASTE be more likely?


TASTE is correct.

Next: Blowing Down the House by David Turner with suggestions by Andrew Lin
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:20 pm    Post subject: 1261 Reply with quote

Totaling the numbers, there are 987 letters, plus 90 spaces, for a total of 1077 characters. If you look at them as letter frequencies, there are some letters that are close to natural, but a few that are way off.

The string on the data page is 1398 characters, all 0s, 1s and 2s.

Counts:
0 - 459
1 - 458
2 - 481
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: 1262 Reply with quote

My first thought was that the 27 possible triples of numbers might correspond to the 27 possible characters. But the counts aren't right.

Base 3 + Blowing down the house = 3 little pigs?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject: 1263 Reply with quote

Triplet frequency, just in case:


000 - 15
001 - 17
002 - 4
010 - 24
011 - 15
012 - 19
020 - 25
021 - 19
022 - 19
100 - 14
101 - 20
102 - 22
110 - 18
111 - 19
112 - 13
120 - 19
121 - 11
122 - 22
200 - 12
201 - 17
202 - 20
210 - 12
211 - 15
212 - 13
220 - 22
221 - 19
222 - 21
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:47 pm    Post subject: 1264 Reply with quote

What if the 27 triplets correspond to the 27 characters but overlaps are possible?

eg
T = 202
H = 211
I = 111
S = 010
but THIS is encrypted as 202111010.

Not that I would know how to begin decrypting such a thing...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:38 am    Post subject: 1265 Reply with quote

Assuming each digit is the start of a possible triplet, here is the count:

000 - 37
001 - 52
002 - 27
010 - 70
011 - 51
012 - 63
020 - 60
021 - 54
022 - 45
100 - 40
101 - 63
102 - 73
110 - 63
111 - 42
112 - 33
120 - 52
121 - 30
122 - 61
200 - 39
201 - 69
202 - 58
210 - 43
211 - 45
212 - 47
220 - 54
221 - 52
222 - 73

So there is still no triplet that appears 90 or 87 times as the "frequencies" page suggests.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:47 am    Post subject: 1266 Reply with quote

I also used the "frequencies" as in index to the data (I noted that no "frequency" number is the same, which seems non-random) by taking the 3 digits from that position. I was hoping that each "frequency" might yield a different triplet, but no such luck:


[space] - 90 - 200
A - 23 - 201
B - 43 - 020
C - 65 - 012
D - 36 - 021
E - 71 - 010
F - 41 - 010
G - 31 - 221
H - 44 - 201
I - 32 - 211
J - 14 - 221
K - 18 - 100
L - 61 - 020
M - 55 - 022
N - 64 - 101
O - 66 - 122
P - 38 - 112
Q - 1 - 020
R - 87 - 012
S - 56 - 222
T - 48 - 220
U - 37 - 211
V - 13 - 222
W - 21 - 102
X - 2 - 200
Y - 15 - 211
Z - 5 - 002
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:36 am    Post subject: 1267 Reply with quote

I thought that maybe each "frequency" should be translated into ternary, but then I saw that [space] ends up as 10100 and only appears once in the data string.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:53 am    Post subject: 1268 Reply with quote

The number associated to [space] is the only one that uses the digit 9 or 0.

I have no idea what that might mean, but I thought I'd point it out.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:23 pm    Post subject: 1269 Reply with quote

Anyone else with ideas, or should we move on?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:32 pm    Post subject: 1270 Reply with quote

Well, I was watching a repeat of Mythbusters tonight when they used the phrase "he huffed and he puffed and he blew the house down" (and you mentioned the 3 little pigs last week.)
And that jogged a faint memory, so I did some searching and came up with this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huffman_coding

...which is all based upon knowing the frequency of letters, which is the one thing we are specifically given.

However the methodology of this is new to me so I haven't done very much with it yet - I was holding off posting until I'd worked the "tree" out, although I'm not going to manage that tonight...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:32 pm    Post subject: 1271 Reply with quote

Edit: Never mind.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:42 am    Post subject: 1272 Reply with quote

Sounds promising.

I worked on the tree a bit. If you construct it in the standard way, keeping all the nodes in order, things get messed up - you have N, C, and O being three leaves at level 3 all with the same stem - e.g., 220, 221, 222, or 100, 101, 102 - but the counts on the length three strings that Suspence made don't allow for any such possibility.

So maybe the tree has gotten rearranged a bit, still maintaining the minimizing properties. That is, N, C and O are still level 3 leaves, but they might have been swapped onto different branches.

Here's a list of nodes:

Length 5: Q, X, Z [must all start with same length 4 stem]
Length 4: V, J, Y, K, W and the stem for QXZ
Length 3: A, G, I, D, U, P, F, B, H, T, M, S, L, N, C, O, and two stems for the six length 4 nodes
Length 2: space, E, R, and 6 stems for the 18 length 3 nodes
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: 1273 Reply with quote

The other problem is that the text is too short (1398 base 3 digits) to actually contain all 1077 characters encrypted Huffman style (all need at least 2 digits, most of them 3).
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:38 pm    Post subject: 1274 Reply with quote

Can't three of them get away with a single digit?
I may, of course, have completely misunderstood something crucial...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject: 1275 Reply with quote

Here's the tree I get and the digits in binary. I used & for [space]

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: 1276 Reply with quote

That's very cool. But wouldn't it make more sense to construct a ternary huffman tree so that each character gets a ternary representation directly?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: 1277 Reply with quote

Yep, but there's no app for that Razz

I'm still not sure that I understand this fully. I was thinking that the tree would remain the same, but I guess not.

As I think about it, it seems like each branch would have 3 outcomes (0 left, 1 middle, 2 right ?) rather than than just two (0 left, 1 right), which would completely change the tree.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:05 pm    Post subject: 1278 Reply with quote

How's this:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:10 pm    Post subject: 1279 Reply with quote

gftt* wrote:
The other problem is that the text is too short (1398 base 3 digits) to actually contain all 1077 characters encrypted Huffman style (all need at least 2 digits, most of them 3).


Yes, so now we're stuck with this issue.

The 3 most frequent characters can be determined in two digits, the next 16 in three digits, and the final 8 in 4 digits. Given the frequencies, that would total out to 3072, far more than the 1398 digits presented.

Also, my chart, while probably close, is likely wrong since 1) I'm still not sure I understood what I did and 2) I did it in the wrong order, working top-down instead of bottom-up
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: 1280 Reply with quote

When the tree is correct we should be able to read the ternary data directly. Maybe the frequencies are from a larger text and are just designed to help you construct the correct tree.
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