Winter has begun... (Game over!)

[Sentran]

Day 1, 21 alive, 11 to lynch

Official Vote Count

[Zag]

I had watched the series already when Sentran proposed this game (or, at least, started watching them) and had already had the books recommended to me by my son. The combination was enough to get me to read them (in spite of my dyslexia getting worse as I age). They are some of the best books I have read. The depth of the politics rivals Dune, and the depth of the characters rivals The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (which I have listened to an unabridged version but not read).

[jadesmar]

It seems like the capitalization of everyone's name is correct except for mine.

[Deception]

Zag, you missed my question.

Can someone explain how there may be any issue with the Durryn Story?

I have not read the books despite many people supporting the idea that I should.

[MNOWAX]

you know, I'm feeling crazy, time to jump on a bandwagon.

Vote Durryn Why? cause I can.
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[Zag]

I'm not sure what you're asking beyond what I already explained.

Durryn is claiming that he is friends with Eddard (Stark) and talks to Wierwoods, which would make him a townie. The nasty characters all worship "the new gods" or "the seven." Of the main characters hanging out in King's Landing, only the Starks (all good guys) worship "the old gods" whose holy places are the Wierwoods.

So he might just be adding color, mucking around with role-playing. Or, he might be scum pretending to do so. But it's so obvious a ploy that I want to think it isn't one. I do know one thing: If he now tries to claim to be a good character who doesn't worship the old gods, I'll be pretty suspicious. And a scum claiming to be a Stark is going to run into trouble because they are probably all accounted for.

(Geez, are there any reliably "good" characters who aren't followers of the old gods? Varys, I suppose has to be considered 'good.' Tyrion and Littlefinger/Petyr could both go either way. I imagine Sentran had plenty of evil characters to choose from that filling the ranks of Mafia was no problem; so he might not include those, even though he could justify either.

Well, now you've done it and pushed my post count up, which some people seem to think is a scum tell. I'd better keep quiet for a time.

[jadesmar]

Vote: Jedo the Jedi for making me feel dumber because he said "RVS" and I don't know what "RVS" is and that makes me feel a little dumber.

[Deception]

Zag:
Even if you make the jump that his little paragraph thing could be a scum-ploy to be flavor-confirmed town (a big jump in my opinion I must add), it is unlikely, I'd think, to have any bearing on alignment.

He'll claim what he claims, and I doubt that he's trying to setup a flavor-confirm-town-claim.

RVS = Random Voting Stage

It's when you vote for fun at the start of the game without any real reasons. Are you aware that you just participated in RVS with that vote (presumably)?

Zag were you serious about wanting to keep quiet because people find you suspicious if you post a lot?

[Apple Sause]

After looking through the wikis (I admit that I haven't read the book or found a place to watch the series), there's really only one person that fits the description that Zag/Durryn said/implied, as the only other alive greenseer (someone who can 'connect' to/possess/warg the Weirwood) doesn't have any connection to Eddard. There is a possibility that one of the two is a red herring, though, or that I'm over-thinking speaking as 'connecting' and he is just speaking to the tree.

As for what you said about the reliably "good" characters, Zag, I think it would be more of the people who were closer to the late King at the time and their families. ^^; Or that could be everyone, I don't know.

As for the mafia player thing, I would rate myself a 3, depending on the power of the role in question.

And finally... Vote: Sniklac16 Who the fuzzmuffin are you?
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[Jedo the Jedi]

Just to throw in my two cents: that might be a post restriction. I can't verify that because he hasn't posted again. I don't mind if you guys vote him though. The attention might bring him back in here to confirm/allay our suspicions.
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Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[Elethiomel]

Who are you talking about, Jedo? Are you saying that Sniklac16 might have a post restriction, since he hasn't posted yet? (That doesn't fit the "he hasn't posted again" part though.)

[Deception]

[Elethiomel]

Well if he was talking about Durryn, his statement makes little sense. Both for the reasons you point out and also because he says "I don't mind if you guys vote him though", while he himself is actually one of the people voting for Durryn.

About Durryn, I didn't pick up on the "potentially strong townie claim" connotations because I'm not very familiar with the lore (I've seen 4 episodes of the TV series, and counting). But his first post did strike me as a "lynch me!" kind of post, which a scum typically wouldn't make. Also, I think scum would be less likely to accidentally post at night, since they would be busy talking to their scumbuddies and well aware of the game state.

Assuming for a moment that Durryn is in fact town, then I'd say itisally and Jedo have cast the most scummy votes so far. Both of them seem eager to downplay their suspicions.

[Fritzler]

Deception:
A. I am pretty much amazing at being mafia. I have been called the liar of my generation. I am like a mixture of Al Capone and Jesus.
B. I have no real problems with Durryn's chapter, but pretty much everyone dies ASOIAF (slight exaggeration), so why not start with him?

[Silverfire]

I was under the impression that Jedo voted Durryn to start a bandwagon, as Durryn already had two votes.

It seems to me that people are reading too much into Durryn's narrative. All I took from it was that he seems to really like A Song Of Ice And Fire; I could see myself doing a similar thing had I the good fortune to be in a mafia game based around something I was a big fan of.

[Durryn]

Sorry, I have been away from my computer for a bit. Time to answer the questions.

1: How well do I play?: Not sure for online, this being my 4th or 5th game, however I outed myself the first time I ever played Mafia (remember V?) and without claiming here, have not played scum since (to memory) I do fairly well in live games though

2: Why did I write narrative for my first post?: It was just flavor text, I love/hate the series and wanted to get myself into the feel. Not a claim for anything save that.

3: Why Fritzer?: My vote for Fritzer was exactly what I said it was. His name was the most fun to type.

4: There is a Wierwood in KL?: I knew there was a Wierwood in Kingslanding and Itisally convinced me I was wrong. Gah!!!!

5: Have you read the books?: I just finished the last book and am eagerly awaiting Itisally, Sentran, and LIML getting done too so I can talk to them about it.

I will end my post with, happy hunting.

Unvote
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[jadesmar]

What does ASOIAF mean?

[Jedo the Jedi]

I must be turning into MNO if you guys can't understand my play.

I was referring to Durryn's chapter thing as a possible post restriction. It was just an option I felt nobody was considering. Turns out I was wrong.

I voted Durryn to start a bandwagon which I believe to be perfectly legitimate. I would have voted Fritzler because he was the first with 2 votes, but one wasn't technically bold which I wasn't sure would count. I then was subtly encouraging people to vote Durryn also because bandwagons are the way to go.

[Sniklac16]

Sorry everyone, been a busy day. As for your question Apple Sause, I AM SNIK!!! haha.I think for now I am going to random vote MNOWAX because he's craaaaazy.
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[Zag]

Well, here we are, halfway through the second page, so I'm hoping that the random voting period will soon be over. To that purpose, I will unvote, because my vote for El was just a joke and I haven't yet seen anything I see as scummy.

jadesmar, ASOIAF stands for A Song of Ice and Fire, which is the name of the entire series of which A Game of Thrones is the first book.

[Deception]

[jadesmar]

Jedo: This logic seems questionable: "he's damn good. It's best just not to let him stick around".

I am happy where my vote is.

[Jedo the Jedi]

[Elethiomel]

Yes, the quote is incomplete because it started with "This is why I would be more happy with a Fritz wagon." But you're saying that was a joke?

Were you also joking when you said you wanted a bandwagon on Durryn?

[Amb]

[Jedo the Jedi]

[Amb]

But a chameleon can, and Jedo, you are a chameleon

[jadesmar]

[Fritzler]

[Jedo the Jedi]

[Deception]

[Sentran]

[Apple Sause]

[Sentran]

[spyrl]

[Durryn]

I never meant it to mean you guys go hunt while I sit on my butt and watch, I meant you were barking up the wrong tree if you thought I was scum and to find the most aggressive minded (tendency to be scum is high) . And the "curt" answers? I just answered what was asked of me, not sure how they were curt or discourteous.

As to not helping in the hunting or lack of helping? Hehe, see above . At this point the only person that looks scummy (sp?), to me, is Fritzler for his time to die post. Feels like he is pushing for me to go too hard.


Vote: Fritzler

Something in my gut says he is scum. For those who have played with me before, how often has my gut missed?
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[itisally]

Well it seems as though we have gotten serious. so I must unvote

I am not a big fan of bandwagons for the actual purpose of lynching on day one. I have always seen them as a way to bully those who are not active on the list into posting something to be analyzed. I will be looking at number of posts soon so I know who I want to prod.

The way I see it day one is long. We want everyone to talk as much as possible so that we have something to look at later. We want people to vote and unvote so that we can analyze those patterns. Basically, we want information. If we get lucky enough to snag a mafia in the process all the better, because we really want to avoid lynching a townie.
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[itisally]

OK, the only person who has not posted at all is Lucresia. So that is where I would put presure. I won't start with voting, just ask for some input.

I got to thinking about my last post and realized that while it was long on philosophy it was short on content for this game. With that in mind my only opinions so far are that Fritzler is too blood thursty, but I don't know him or his style well enough to be certain that he dosen't just need a sarcasam font (He might be kidding), Deception is prolific ( but he has been in every game I have seen him in), Durryn plays from his gut (like always) and I find it hard to reconcile with my need for evidence.
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[Fritzler]