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Oscar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:55 pm    Post subject: 121 Aha! These are books/films which have been turned upside down: 1a A European picture of mental health - AMERICAN PSYCHO 1b Lunch for losers - BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS 1c Flag the later guidelines? 1d Niceness above the moon - EVIL UNDER THE SUN
Elethiomel
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: 122 1c. The lager flat guidelines - THE CIDER HOUSE RULES
Gomez
candid chimera

 Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: 123 Good work fellas!
Suspence
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: 124 During test-solving, I solved LUNCH FOR LOSERS first and I immediately thought DINNER FOR SCHMUCKS_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
gpagano
Icarian Member

 Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:44 pm    Post subject: 125 Part 2: ROSE MAR HE'S BAY BEE + KING= ROSEMARY'S BABY EPOCH ELLIPSE KNOW + BIN = APOCALYPSE NOW FILM MET HALL JACK HET + TEQUILA= FULL METAL JACKET DOUR HAIR HE TEE + BOARD= DIRTY HARRY THESE HAMS HENCE HEIL OFT HELL+ MA = ? All of the excess bits suggest another title: KING BIN TEQUILA BOARD MA= TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD + BIN So I would assume BIN is the bit we need from part two. As for part 1, have we considered the locations of each film? The Miami Florida bit suggests locations may be needed. As for part 3, Perhaps we have to order the colors in some way? EDIT: No wait...perhaps we have to dot our i's and cross our t's here. Taking each color as a separate letter, and counting the i as dots and t's as dashes gives me . - . .-. -. .- .-.. .-.. --- --- .--. ... .-. .. ...- . .-. .-.. .. -.- . .- .-- --- -. -.- -.-- .-.. .. -. . .--. .-. . .. .. -.. . . - ... ..- --. .. .--. --- . - -. ..- .-. - ..- .-. . ... -... .- -.. -. .. --. .... - --- -. . -- .--. - -.- - Which I translate to: ETERNAL LOOPS RIVER LIKE A WONKY LINE PREIIDEETS? UGI? POET NURTURES BAD NIGHT ONE MPTKT? Obviously some errors, PREIIDEETS seems like it should be presidents. Feel free to make any corrections._________________Puzzle mad.Last edited by gpagano on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:18 am; edited 1 time in total
LordKinbote
Daedalian Member

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:52 pm    Post subject: 126

 gpagano wrote: Part 2: ROSE MAR HE'S BAY BEE + KING= ROSEMARY'S BABY EPOCH ELLIPSE KNOW + BIN = APOCALYPSE NOW FILM MET HALL JACK HET + TEQUILA= FULL METAL JACKET DOUR HAIR HE TEE + BOARD= DIRTY HARRY THESE HAMS HENCE HEIL OFT HELL+ MA = ? All of the excess bits suggest another title: KING BIN TEQUILA BOARD MA= TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD + BIN So I would assume BIN is the bit we need from part two. As for part 1, have we considered the locations of each film? The Miami Florida bit suggests locations may be needed. As for part 3, Perhaps we have to order the colors in some way?

The one you missed was THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS.
gpagano
Icarian Member

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:20 am    Post subject: 127 Ah, thanks LordKinbote. Confirms my theory about the "BIN" being the lone bit. Okay, So I have a lead on part 3. Take a look at post 125 to see where I'm at with it. Still not sure to make of the portions we can read._________________Puzzle mad.
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:10 am    Post subject: 128 Brilliant work...seems so obvious once someone points it out. I had the morse code idea for part 3 but am so hopeless at morse code that none of it made sense. I'll see if I can make a contribution.
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:21 am    Post subject: 129 Perhaps part 3 splits into more file titles...need to visit imdb. BTW, why don't I see colours in part 3? I just see black text. I'm seeing colour references in the html source for that page but I'm not otherwise seeing the embedded colouring...which makes solving the puzzle even harder ETERNAL LOOPS RIVER LIKE A WONKY LINE "The river wild"? PREIIDEETS? UGI? POET NURTURES BAD "Dead poets society"? NIGHT ONE MPTKT? .
novice
No harm. Pun intended!

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:58 am    Post subject: 130 Brilliant work. I double-checked the morse code, and I got ETERNAL LOOPS RIVER LIKE A WONKY LINE PRESIDENT HUGS POET NURTURES BAD NIGHT ONE MPTKT So MPTKT is correct, the rest was typos.
novice
No harm. Pun intended!

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:00 am    Post subject: 131 Actually if the final K and T are taken as one morse letter, we get ETERNAL LOOPS RIVER LIKE A WONKY LINE PRESIDENT HUGS POET NURTURES BAD NIGHT ON EMPTY The K and T are the same color, just separated by newlines, so that makes sense.
novice
No harm. Pun intended!

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:06 am    Post subject: 132

 3iff wrote: BTW, why don't I see colours in part 3? I just see black text. I'm seeing colour references in the html source for that page but I'm not otherwise seeing the embedded colouring...which makes solving the puzzle even harder

The puzzle is using the nonstandard <text> html tag, so it doesn't work in Internet Explorer. You can see the colors in Chrome and Firefox.

Replacing the text tags with span tags ought to fix it.
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:31 am    Post subject: 133 Thanks, novice, you're right. Span doesn't seem to work but I have an old firefox and that shows it. It looks hideous!
Gomez
candid chimera

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:08 am    Post subject: 134

Excellent work so far, guys. You've correctly solved part 2, and have one stage left on parts 1 and 3. To just nudge you in the right direction on part one, because it is very slightly ambiguous, you may find it helpful to know that I'm a literature grad

I can confirm that novice, in post 131, has correctly decoded the morse code, although big props should also go to gpagano for making the leap in the first place and correctly decoding 90% of it, as well as nailing part 2 single-handed. Excellent solving, sir!

Happy solving!

 3iff wrote: It looks hideous

Yeah, garish, isn't it? Something tells me that G-vision isn't going to be a commercial success
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:20 am    Post subject: 135 Assuming we're missing film locations from part 1... I have American Psycho: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Breakfast: Twin Falls, Idaho Cider House: Bellow Falls, Vermont Evil under the Sun: Mallorca, Balearic Islands, Spain. Although probably authors are more relevant Bret Easton Ellis Kurt Vonnegut John Irving Agatha Christie All the films in part 1 came from books... Call in BOOKBINDERS or BOOKBINDER
Scurra
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: 136 (Grrr. I go away for a week and completely miss almost all of this! Hey ho.) But all the answers to the overall puzzle so far seem to be one-word movie titles. BOOKBINDERS doesn't seem to fit that pattern. Can you tell I do meta-puzzles quite a lot? My first instinct when getting to this sort of point is to look at previous answers in the hope that they might provide an obvious clue... As for the meta itself: I'm not at all sure if we can yet assume there are only seven answers? Was Suspence's puzzle a replacement for one or an extra one? I can't see anything obvious that the films have in common other than that they are possibly adaptations of earlier works - not sure this works for Xanadu though. But "Back in the old days" might be suggesting that. [Because I have written quite a lot of metas myself, I know how hard it is to make a puzzle that works just from a set of answers with perhaps a vague title pointer.]_________________ still Quiz Olympiad champion. Must get a life. New definitions: COFFEE - someone who is coughed upon Last edited by Scurra on Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:38 am; edited 1 time in total
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:38 am    Post subject: 137 Funny, I was just wondering where you were as these things are the sort of puzzle you solve in your sleep... I concur about the puzzle answers so far...all one word film titles, so Bookbinders is probably (almost certainly) wrong. I'm fairly sure there are 7 puzzles and I have inside knowledge about the one I had a go at but had to pass onto someone else to do... (I'll say nothing about that puzzle).
novice
No harm. Pun intended!

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:42 am    Post subject: 138

 3iff wrote: Assuming we're missing film locations from part 1... I have American Psycho: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Breakfast: Twin Falls, Idaho Cider House: Bellow Falls, Vermont Evil under the Sun: Mallorca, Balearic Islands, Spain. Although probably authors are more relevant Bret Easton Ellis Kurt Vonnegut John Irving Agatha Christie

It's a bit weak, but maybe VICE for part 1 from Miami and Vonnegut, Irving, Christie, Ellis?
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:50 am    Post subject: 139 I just looked at that and could spell out VICE but didn't add it to Miami...I like that idea. Don't know what to do with it though.
novice
No harm. Pun intended!

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:01 am    Post subject: 140 Yeah I think VICE might fit, being clued by "on location in Miami". Similarly BIN is clued by "And, by extension..." (.bin is a common file extension)
Scurra
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:04 am    Post subject: 141 Part three may be cryptics. Unfortunately, the break points aren't necessarily obvious (unless there is something in that garish colour thing that helps - I haven't examined it closely.) My first guess at the splits is: ETERNAL LOOPS RIVER LIKE A WONKY LINE (which appears to give NILE) PRESIDENT HUGS POET NURTURES BAD NIGHT ON EMPTY (something like THING?)_________________ still Quiz Olympiad champion. Must get a life. New definitions: COFFEE - someone who is coughed upon Last edited by Scurra on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:04 am; edited 1 time in total
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:04 am    Post subject: 142 Possibly... We need to solve part 3 but yet again I'm meeting a brick wall. In the part 3 intro, there's the odd phrase, "you'll end up cutting your own head off, with a bit of old tin." I'm guessing it's flavour but maybe it's an instruction for what we get from part 3.Last edited by 3iff on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:23 am; edited 1 time in total
Oscar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:20 am    Post subject: 143 I was just about to post NILE plus NOTHING for the last clue! (Bad night on empty) Last edited by Oscar on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:21 am; edited 1 time in total
Thok
Oh, foe, the cursed teeth!

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:21 am    Post subject: 144

 Scurra wrote: Part three may be cryptics. Unfortunately, the break points aren't necessarily obvious (unless there is something in that garish colour thing that helps - I haven't examined it closely.)

It's possible that unique colors (that is colors that only appear once) clue cryptic breaks. The S in loops and the last letter are both unique.

Of course, that requires one to actually compare the garish colors to each other.

Also, ETERNAL LOOPS = REPEATING? (Which would be sort of a weak double definition.)

Last edited by Thok on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:25 am; edited 1 time in total
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: 145 ETERNAL LOOPS could be SPOOL ? or POOLS ??
Thok
Oh, foe, the cursed teeth!

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:33 am    Post subject: 146 PRESIDENT HUGS POET NURTURES feels like it has a CARESSES/CARES thing going on with the word play.
Scurra
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:40 am    Post subject: 147 Has anyone tried morse decoding on the intro text for part 3? I imagine it's not possible without colours and given that the other intros have been related to the answer part rather than how to solve, it's probably not meant to be done that way anyway._________________ still Quiz Olympiad champion. Must get a life. New definitions: COFFEE - someone who is coughed upon
novice
No harm. Pun intended!

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:43 am    Post subject: 148

 Scurra wrote: Has anyone tried morse decoding on the intro text for part 3? I imagine it's not possible without colours and given that the other intros have been related to the answer part rather than how to solve, it's probably not meant to be done that way anyway.

I tried, it seemed like a red herring.

Taking every word continaining an i or a t as a letter gives
N T A Q E T T E I T A E T K E T N W E M A E G A A N

Ignoring word boundaries gives
-.-.---.-.--...-.-.--.-.--..--.--.-.--..-.--.

Breaking that down into letters, some possible starts:
TETE
TENTT
TENTM
TENTG
TENMT
TENMN
TENMK
TENMC
TENOE
TENOA
TENOR
TENORT
TENORTT
TENORTN
TENORTD
TENORTB
TENORME
TENORMI
TENORMS
TENORMV
TENORG
TENORZ
TEK
TEY
TAE
TAA
TAW
TROE
TROA
NT
NN
NK
NY
KE
KA
KW
KJ
CT
CM
COE
COAE
COAA
COAW
COAP
COEN
COEK
COET
CORT
CORM
CORG
Suspence
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: 149 BOOKBINDERS is not correct_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: 150 PRESIDENT HUGS POET NURTURES Suggests a possible president name surrounding a possible poet name, as in... PPpoetPP to make a word meaning nurtures... Yes, I know you all KNOW this...unfortunately I don't know many poets and a quich search lists hundreds! I'm mainly thinking out loud for my own benefit.
novice
No harm. Pun intended!

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:01 pm    Post subject: 151 The two solved cryptics make sense, otoh I have a hard time seeing how Eternal Loops can be a cryptic. And the first two parts involve movies - shouldn't the third part do that too? ETERNAL LOOPS - Neverending story RIVER LIKE A WONKY - River wild LINE PRESIDENTS HUGS POET NURTURES BAD NIGHT ON EMPTY - ???
Scurra
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:09 pm    Post subject: 152 The reason I don't like "The River Wild" as an answer to "River like a wonky..." is that a good cryptic doesn't include any part of the answer in the clue. If the answer contained "river", then the clue would be more likely to be something like "Flower like a wonky..." (Of course I am not necessarily including the difficulty of doing the morse code setup in that!) And whilst I agree that the other answers have been movies, that doesn't stop these leading to movie titles as well. I was toying with the idea that they might all be partial titles with the same "missing" word, although there aren't many movies with NILE in them! (Death on the Nile and Jewel of the Nile were the only two that come to mind.)_________________ still Quiz Olympiad champion. Must get a life. New definitions: COFFEE - someone who is coughed upon
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:18 pm    Post subject: 153 I have to say RIVER LIKE A WONKY LINE (= NILE) fits perfectly. When I guessed "The River Wild" I wasn't seeing the clue as a cryptic, but I'm sure it is. Ditto for BAD NIGHT ON EMPTY. (= NOTHING) It could be the other 2 are not cryptics, but it would be odd to switch those two to straight clues. The President one 'looks' cryptic. I'm sure a film title is going to be the eventual outcome...
Oscar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:28 pm    Post subject: 154 I think it's a sort of double cryptic: Eternal loops = ENDLESS River like a wonky line = NILE President hugs poet nurtures = PR(OVID)ES Bad night on empty = NOTHING giving NIL Hence we probably have VICE, BIN & NIL
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:30 pm    Post subject: 155 Nice...and nasty. So it's PRES from president...
Elethiomel
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:36 pm    Post subject: 156 CALL IN INVINCIBLE
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:36 pm    Post subject: 157 Rats, it's an anagram... You were right Gomez...it was a tough one.
Suspence
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:42 pm    Post subject: 158 INVINCIBLE is correct. Nicely solved all. Here is the final puzzle: Dizzy Spell by Jack_Ian Given that all the puzzles are out there, I'll give you the link to the meta-page as well, though there isn't anything you don't already know: Back in the Old Days by Suspence_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
3iff
very unbifflike

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:44 pm    Post subject: 159 This next one was the one I was going to do...but I didn't...so I won't be involved in solving this one.
Oscar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:59 pm    Post subject: 160 I know I shouldn't do this but.... Call in VERTIGO Now to try to solve it.... Oh for the meta: Call in ROMAN Call in Roman Numeral Worth a guess
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