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Durryn
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:14 pm    Post subject: 201 Reply with quote

If Rae chooses now (way too early) to make the cop claim and no-one is willing to counter, I say we follow her lead and Unvote. Vote: MNO

If she lied and we Wipe his OS (lynch a townie), at the very least we know who to go after next which is much better than we have done in many a game prior.

I feel sorry for the doc who now will have to decide who to protect tonight if MNO flips Infected (scum), K.I.T.T. or Data.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:00 pm    Post subject: 202 Reply with quote

Quasi-Daily Vote Count
2. MNOWAX (Raearia, Durryn)
1. Raearia (MNOWAX)

No vote (3iff, Garou_kinfolk, Perpentach, Raekuul)
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:32 am    Post subject: 203 Reply with quote

The lack of a counter-claim does lend credence to Raearia's claim. However, I'm not quite so quick to jump on MNOWAX simply because this looks like standard MNOWAX play. There's also the possibility that we have a scum-flavored cop, but that would just be ridiculous.

Having just said that this looks like standard MNOWAX, however, I must point out that the claim of 'townie that can't be nightkilled' smells bad.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:23 am    Post subject: 204 Reply with quote

If no-one calls out the cop claim then it seems reasonable to believe the investigation result.

The only fly in the ointment is...
MNOWAX wrote:
Lastly, you said earlier that you didn't believe in 3iff's claim of being K.I.T.T. Why did you "investigate" me over him?

I have attracted a lot of attention, being near/at L-1 and being accused of running a double vote. Had I been a cop, I would have investigated 'me' as soon as I had a chance.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:00 pm    Post subject: 205 Reply with quote

I can understand why there has been no counter claim. If the claim is false the real cop might not want to be drawn out so early in the game. It quickly becomes a WIFOM at that point though.

On MNOs claim, I can see him holding back some bit of information for self protection, such as his ability only works a certain number of times. I know I wouldn't want to give out that part of my role if I were him.

At this point I don't know where to put my vote. It would be a shame to lynch MNO if he is telling the truth. I also don't want to put my vote on a claimed cop until there is some kind of counter claim.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:41 am    Post subject: 206 Reply with quote

Deadline is now just less than 5 days.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: 207 Reply with quote

Just finished rereading through the day and I still don't know where to place my vote. Raearia is new and, if scum, can make slips more easily without knowing better. MNO is seasoned and kind of a crazy player. I don't know if I should believe the early cop claim to be true or a basic scum move. Also I don't know if I should believe MNO with his un-nightkillability as it stands now. Everyone knows I am not going to buy into a flavor claim either. It's just too easy to fake with all the robots out there to go "I'm scum with ability X, but if I claim good robot Q then my ability will fit with it." As I said, just too easy. Anyone have a new perspective? Durryn did you ever look up MNOs name claim?
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:59 pm    Post subject: 208 Reply with quote

Well I am not scum, and I understand how you can be skeptical considering you could think of it as a scum ploy.

However I am willing to stand by my claim and results to the death if need be.

I am not sure what is considered too early or to late when making claims. All I can see is we have 3 townies dead and 0 scum so I felt we needed a push in the right direction by claiming.

( FYI: Thursday evening on I will be out of town camping for an event so I will not be around at all over the weekend)
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:23 pm    Post subject: 209 Reply with quote

I might be the only one, but I think we might need an extension on the deadline.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 6:08 am    Post subject: 210 Reply with quote

At the current rate of posting, which isn't high, I'd have to see conversation pick up a lot more before I'd consider a change to the deadline.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: 211 Reply with quote

As communication has virtually ground to a halt, I'll cast a vote.

Vote: Raekuul

Just a slight feeling I'm getting...so tenuous as to be almost nothing.
If anyone has anything to say on ANY matter, you'd better speak up. If we don't do something soon, the mafia are going to obliterate us.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 5:43 pm    Post subject: 212 Reply with quote

Not sure if random or random.

Still, voting for me has bumped me into action. I've decided to side with Raearia for now. vote: MNOWAX[/b]
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: 213 Reply with quote

Please do not hammer me, i need to converse with the mod in regards to this game.

As garou had said i have more to my role, but i'm getting clarification on what i can share with the peanut gallery.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: 214 Reply with quote

Quasi-Daily Vote Count
3. MNOWAX (Raearia, Durryn, Raekuul)
1. Raearia (MNOWAX)
1. Raekuul (3iff)

No vote (Garou_kinfolk, Perpentach)

4 to lynch.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:10 pm    Post subject: 215 Reply with quote

Unvote

L-1 for me.

I guess it is time to let the cat out of the bag.

I'm really Bender. I'm the Mafia Traitor. I know who the other two mafia are, thanks to their co-operation and letting me know. I win with the town but only if the other two mafia die, and I still survive. The unNKable is technically true ( they can't shoot me) but not for the reason why I stated.

I am not allowed to say specifically who they are, but I am allowed to say things that indirectly point to them. For instance the two mafia left have voted for me from the start of this game.

PLEASE TOWN keep me alive, I may not be able to communicate with them anymore, but I KNOW who they are!
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Garou_Kinfolk
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:17 pm    Post subject: 216 Reply with quote

MNOWAX wrote:
Unvote

L-1 for me.

I guess it is time to let the cat out of the bag.

I'm really Bender. I'm the Mafia Traitor. I know who the other two mafia are, thanks to their co-operation and letting me know. I win with the town but only if the other two mafia die, and I still survive. The unNKable is technically true ( they can't shoot me) but not for the reason why I stated.

I am not allowed to say specifically who they are, but I am allowed to say things that indirectly point to them. For instance the two mafia left have voted for me from the start of this game.

PLEASE TOWN keep me alive, I may not be able to communicate with them anymore, but I KNOW who they are!


I had to read this post several times, but I don't know if it is a MNO trick or if he is telling the truth. If someone who has played with him more often could comment on it, I know I would find it helpful.

Also, since you are part of the mafia do you still win if they do?
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject: 217 Reply with quote

Garou_Kinfolk wrote:


Also, since you are part of the mafia do you still win if they do?


Why don't you tell me.

God this is quickly becoming my favorite mafia game of all time.

Whomever hammers me is Scum guaranteed, the LAST thing they want me to do is tell all of their secrets. If I am hammered i will simply say yes or no to confirm whether they are scum. At the beginning of this game i was not told of the other mafia members, only the GF, (of which yes there is one) the GF told me there was one other member of the mafia along with me.

I also can almost confirm that the other mafia member is a double voter, as i talked to the other mafia member and (s)he stated that they had an additional role that could be used during the day.

BTW, I was the reason why there was no night kill. If i am sent to do a job it will automatically fail. I was sent to kill Raekuul last night, which is why he is still alive.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:27 pm    Post subject: 218 Reply with quote

Sorry for the double post, but it just occurred to me that if MNO is telling the truth and there are two other mafia members, then we are at lynch or lose. The question then becomes do we
A: not lynch MNO in hoping we get enough clues from him to lynch all of the mafia, or
B: do we lynch him now and take our chances again tomorrow?
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:38 pm    Post subject: 219 Reply with quote

I've never been in a game with a mafia traitor before, which is why I asked. I honestly don't know.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: 220 Reply with quote

Garou_Kinfolk wrote:
I've never been in a game with a mafia traitor before, which is why I asked. I honestly don't know.



HAHAHAHA!
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:01 am    Post subject: 221 Reply with quote

Actually, the nightkill last night would have failed anyway, as I had (as in, I used) a one-shot ability to keep myself from getting nightkilled, which I'd used that night. Bender, meet Bumblebee of the Transformers.

MNOWAX, the stealth voter isn't voting currently. As I am now unvoting to prevent a stealth hammer, this should help.

I think I can see the common thread here, so I'll take the risk and vote: Raearia
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:30 am    Post subject: 222 Reply with quote

Quasi-Daily Vote Count
2. MNOWAX (Raearia, Durryn)
1. Raearia (Raekuul)
1. Raekuul (3iff)

No vote (Garou_kinfolk, MNOWAX, Perpentach)

4 to lynch.

Deadline extension will probably be granted now due to pick up, and partly due to the fact I will not be home when it falls due. So I will remove the deadline for now, and put another one in place in a couple of days.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:46 am    Post subject: 223 Reply with quote

Raearia is likely who she says she is.

Hello Bumblebee. Where do we go from here? the only problem right now is how to get across what i know without getting modkilled.

so far outside of me, anyone who has claimed isn't apart of the scum team.

there is something i can point to right now in two posts made recently that lists both scum. I think that is cryptic enough to not get MKed.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:34 pm    Post subject: 224 Reply with quote

unvote, vote: Durryn

I guess I'll have to be MNOWAX's mouthpiece, assuming I don't misunderstand the who that you hint at. The only other possibility I can see at this point is 3iff
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Durryn
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:20 pm    Post subject: 225 Reply with quote

Okay MNO. Unvote

People that have Claimed:

Raearia - Data
Durryn - C3PO
3iff - K.I.T.T.
Raekuul - Bumblebee


That means the Scum are:

Garou
MNO - obviously self claimed
Perpentach

I feel a
Vote Garou He has ALOT of new Dad duties to do so he should go first.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: 226 Reply with quote

Sorry for the double post. I am going camping for the Memorial Day weekend, starting today, and will not be back until Monday night.

Have a good weekend all.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:28 pm    Post subject: 227 Reply with quote

Hmm... Oh, now I see it. Curse me and my failure to pay attention to who claimed when!

unvote, vote: Garou
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:58 pm    Post subject: 228 Reply with quote

Interesting turn of events! If MNO is telling the truth it would explain why he came up guilty in my investigation and it would be a good chance to catch the other two mafia.

UNVOTE
VOTE: GAROU
since I am in agreement with Durryn.

Looking at it the only people who have voted for MNO the entire game has been:

Raearia
Durryn
Perpentach
3iff
Raekul
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:00 pm    Post subject: 229 Reply with quote

A couple things MNOWAX. One, you said the two mafia left, are you saying that Sentran, jadesmar or MatthewV was a member of the mafia? Second, your two clues contradict each other. Your second clue frames Garou and I, and I did vote for you in the the beginning, but Garou never voted for you. You're saying there are two mafia, but I'm the only eligible candidate.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject: 230 Reply with quote

One thing with MNO playing...it's never a straightforward game. His latest reveal is either a work of genius from Amb or a work of genius from MNO...I really wish I knew which one it was...

If that's Garou at L-1 ? then perhaps he should speak.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:16 pm    Post subject: 231 Reply with quote

I will claim when I have time to. It should be about an hour before I go on break. Just wait until then before lynching me. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:26 pm    Post subject: 232 Reply with quote

it's too obvious to say for sure. one of my clues had to be skewed a bit otherwise it would be too obvious.

I also can not vote for them, or be modkilled. that should help A LOT
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:53 pm    Post subject: 233 Reply with quote

I am the tinman from the Wizard of Oz. My ability is that of a helper. I had the one time ability to give someone a second use of their power. I had used it on Sentran night 1 because I know how clever he is and would put it to good use if he could. If I hit scum with my power it wouldn't do anything. After its used I became vanilla.

vote: MNOWAX

1: He has admitted to being scum.
2: His "clues" contradict each other. I have not voted for him until now and I am one of the only two who had not claimed.
3: I believe this to be a gambit like in the Game of Thrones game. (which almost worked)
4: He claimed Bender and that there is a Godfather after Durryn brought it up in an earlier post.
5: The cop has confirmed that he is scum.
6: As I have not gotten a straight answer from him, I believe he wins with either side.

On a side note, while I appreciate the opportunity to leave the game so I can spend time with my daughter, I have a greater ability to post from here at work and can still play.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: 234 Reply with quote

my previous statement about voting is now true.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:25 pm    Post subject: 235 Reply with quote

MNOWAX wrote:
my previous statement about voting is now true.


But it was NOT at the time it was made.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject: 236 Reply with quote

Hit send accidentally. The rest of that post is below.

That is why it is invalid. Reverse confirmation of something is not a real confirmation.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject: 237 Reply with quote

it's okay they will lynch you. same with your partner. You kept me out of the loop long enough, now you can bite my shiny metal...
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: 238 Reply with quote

Assuming Garou is telling some degree of truth, the only other candidate would be Perpentach.

Perpentach, you're the only person left who hasn't claimed.

Garou: Tin Man doesn't fit the spirit of the other claims.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: 239 Reply with quote

@R.Kuul: Whether it fits with the other claims or not, that's who I am. I can't change that. I did do some research on it to see if he really is a robot and from what I saw the Tinman started our human, became a "cyborg", then went almost fully artificial. He was just missing hos heart. The tinsmith forgot to add that part.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:29 pm    Post subject: 240 Reply with quote

At this point, as my hand has been played, I am going to resign my fate to the logic of the collective. I just ask that if I am to be hammered that it wait until next week when people get back from the long weekend so that, for those who have already left, everyone can see all of the information posted and not miss a chance to vote/unvote as they would like. Thanks.
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