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Suspence
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

Our first attempt at this went semi-successfully, so I'd like to try it again. This time, I'd love to get the puzzle tight enough to present it as a GLP.

As with the first puzzle, we'll take volunteers for puzzle setters in this thread. I'll randomly assign them a solution via PM, and they will write a puzzle where the solution is that word.

Current Volunteers:
1 - Gomez
2 - novice
3 - 3iff
4 - MNOWAX
5 - Elethiomel
6 - Thok
7 - Zag
8 - jbvntx
9 - Jack_Ian
10 - Scurra
11 - jesus_saves
12 - LordKinbote
13 - gpagano
14 - Oscar
15 - gftt

If possible, I'd love to have a person volunteer to be the official test solver/editor/critic. They could test-solve my meta to begin, then test solve each submitted puzzle along with me.

Test Solver volunteers
1 - 3iff
2 - Thok (currently working on the meta)
3 - Oscar

Any more volunteers? Any questions?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

I'm psyched. I think I've decided on a concept and I reckon I'll need some construction time. Revenge most foul!

What's the timeline here?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:47 pm    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

You have time. I'd like to make sure that puzzles are all high quality and are all tightly tested, and I realize that will take time.

At this point, I won't constrain you with a time limit. We'll take the time we need to get everything rock solid.

I have a 20 word meta together, but I'd like to find our official test-solver first. Once they solve the meta, assuming all goes well, I can assign words to those who have volunteered.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:11 am    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

Well, I have a puzzle theme that I'd like to try. It seems much tighter than my first dismal effort and should fit reasonably well with the other puzzles that appeared in puzzle one.

Test solver: I doubt that I'm good enough to do that on my own (I like to wander down dead ends...) but if there's no-one else then I'll take a step forward...or I'd be happy to assist someone else should that be necessary.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:27 pm    Post subject: 5 Reply with quote

I'm willing to be a guinea pig test solver.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:40 pm    Post subject: 6 Reply with quote

Thanks to both 3iff and Thok for volunteering to test solve. We may need more than one test solver, so I may end up roping you both in.

For now, I've sent one possible meta to Thok for review. I have several options ready, so hopefully one of them will pass the test.

It would be great to get a few more volunteers for puzzle setters. Any interest? Jack_Ian, I promise not to mess up your puzzle this time Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:08 pm    Post subject: 7 Reply with quote

Under a lot of pressure at work at the moment, but I'll tentatively say yes.
If it looks like I won't be able to participate, I'll let you know a.s.a.p.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

Great. I anticipate this taking several months to get complete, so hopefully there will be sufficient time for everyone.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:47 pm    Post subject: 9 Reply with quote

I am willing to write a puzzle for this, although I tend to prefer writing to an absurd constraint than being giving free-rein (which is probably why I like writing metapuzzles more than the actual puzzles!) But I'm sure it will be fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:23 pm    Post subject: 10 Reply with quote

Thanks, Scurra. I can add some absurd constraints if necessary. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: 11 Reply with quote

what's the deadline for writing the puzzle? I m interested in trying my hand a puzzle writing. (if there's still room)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: 12 Reply with quote

There's still room. Once I distribute the solutions, I'll probably give a deadline of approximately 2 months just to give those who are procrastinators (like myself) some impetus.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:45 pm    Post subject: 13 Reply with quote

If the deadline is 2 months, I can definitely do it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:38 pm    Post subject: 14 Reply with quote

I've had some ideas. I think I could come up with something interesting for this one. Sign me up.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: 15 Reply with quote

Wow. Thanks to everyone for signing up.

The current meta I have submitted to Thok for review has 16 puzzles, and we've already got 12 volunteers, so there's still room for more!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:32 pm    Post subject: 16 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
The current meta I have submitted to Thok for review has 16 puzzles, and we've already got 12 volunteers, so there's still room for more!


I've take a quick glance at the meta, but I probably won't get to it fully until this weekend.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:42 am    Post subject: 17 Reply with quote

I've prepared the ground work for my puzzle. I hope the concept passes test solving, as it was a lot of work. (But fun Revenge most foul!)

Just waiting for my assigned solution now.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:52 am    Post subject: 18 Reply with quote

I've been hit with a cold the last two days. I've taken a look at the meta but haven't really made any progress with it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: 19 Reply with quote

I'd be happy to write a puzzle, plus do some test solving, although things might get a little tight at times over the next few months.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: 20 Reply with quote

Thanks Oscar.

13 hats in the ring for puzzle setters, with a 16 puzzle meta. I can always handle one if needed, but there is room for a few more volunteers.

Thok, any update on the meta?
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:18 pm    Post subject: 21 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
Thok, any update on the meta?


Going slowly, mainly because of the cold. That said, I could probably use a suggestion. I'm about to go off to work, so I'll look at it more tonight. (I don't have internet access at work.)
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:18 pm    Post subject: 22 Reply with quote

No worries...I'll PM you a slight nudge.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:06 pm    Post subject: 23 Reply with quote

Thok is still working on the meta. Hopefully he'll have it solved soon, and I can get your assigned solutions out to you.

If any of our other test solvers also wants a crack at it, let me know. Be advised, it takes you out of the running for solving any of the puzzles once we publish the meta.

We're now up to 14 volunteers, so there is still room for one or two more.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: 24 Reply with quote

I've sent the meta to 3iff as well. Thok and 3iff, feel free to collaborate if you feel that will be helpful.

Hopefully, we'll get this show on the road soon.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:31 am    Post subject: 25 Reply with quote

Please, please, please submit these for front page puzzles. We're running short.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: 26 Reply with quote

That is definitely the plan, Courk.

So, to all our puzzle setters, this sets a high standard for our puzzles. They each need to be worthy of the GL front page. I'm sure we'll all be up to the challenge.

As an update, 3iff has successfully solved the meta I provided. He sent me the correct solution last night. I'll PM with him today to get any feedback / constructive criticism needed to finalize it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:27 pm    Post subject: 27 Reply with quote

OK, I think we are at a point where we can begin handing out the assigned words. 3iff has successfully solved the meta, with just a minor push. We've made a small change to ensure it is completely solvable. Thok is still taking a look, but 3iff and I are confident that it all works.

The list of volunteers is below. Please post in this thread to let me know that you are ready to receive your word. I will send it to you via PM.

If you are no longer interested in contributing a puzzle, please let me know as well.

We ended up with a 14 puzzle meta, so we actually have one extra volunteer. If our last attempt is any indication, that will work out just fine as we used several substitutes.

1 - Gomez
2 - novice
3 - 3iff
4 - MNOWAX
5 - Elethiomel
6 - Thok
7 - Zag
8 - jbvntx
9 - Jack_Ian
10 - Scurra
11 - jesus_saves
12 - LordKinbote
13 - gpagano
14 - Oscar
15 - gftt

I know we all have time constraints, so I don't want to be too rigid with deadlines. Please stay in touch from time to time, and let me know if you need to bow out. I'll understand.

Remember, the goal is to get these puzzles on to the front page of the GL, so they need to be high quality. Thok, 3iff and I will function as test solvers, and puzzles will likely need to be edited and reworked if they are not solvable.

Thanks to all of you in advance.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:04 pm    Post subject: 28 Reply with quote

Hit me.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject: 29 Reply with quote

I've sent El his assigned solution via PM.

3iff has graciously volunteered to step down to focus on test-solving, so the remaining 14 volunteers all have a spot. 3iff will fill in as a setter if anyone has to bow out.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:49 pm    Post subject: 30 Reply with quote

Actually, it's less about me being gracious...more about having time to deal with the impending avalanche...

BTW: If any of you haven't yet had a go at my Quiz Olympiad (Visitor games) then perhaps you should...(but there's no obligation.)
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: 31 Reply with quote

Yes, I'll add a personal plug for 3iff's Quiz Olympiad. 3iff writes excellent quiz questions and runs the game superbly. I very rarely venture into VG, but 3iff's quiz games are worth it.

Plus, Zag needs your help Razz
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: 32 Reply with quote

I was actually going to bow out. I'm not a puzzle maker by any means, so it would be a disservice to not have 3iff in when i'm not nearly as experienced as all of you are.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: 33 Reply with quote

MNO, I quite liked your "In the Middle" puzzle... There were a couple of small issues with it but that's the sort of thing we hope to iron out during the test phase.

My attempt at a puzzle in that first meta was a car-crash of immense proportions. I'm happy to exclude myself from puzzle writing...but if you really, really want to drop out, well...it's your call.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:48 pm    Post subject: 34 Reply with quote

I'm ready.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: 35 Reply with quote

ive STILL got the Cannonball run to finish.... So please, take it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject: 36 Reply with quote

Waves.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:40 pm    Post subject: 37 Reply with quote

PMs sent to novice and Scurra.

For now, we'll leave MNOWAX's spot vacant, in case we get any more volunteers.

3iff and I will be busy test-solving, so we'll only fill in if needed.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: 38 Reply with quote

If we're ready, I'd be glad to get my word. It might take me a bit to come up with something of good quality, so I may be in contact with the test solvers quite a bit. Just a heads up Cannibal
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: 39 Reply with quote

Ready.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: 40 Reply with quote

PMs sent to gpagano and Gomez...
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