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Undercover Monk
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 Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject: 1 |
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Surviving (get it  )
1.Amb
2.The Great Crepper
Torches snuffed:
1. Jedo the Jedi: Phillip Shepherd, Town Cop, Lynched D1
2. Garou_Kinfolk: Stephen Fischback, Town mason, Blindsided N1
3. itisally: Rob Cesternino, Neutral Serial Killer, Blindsided N1
4. MNOWAX: Richard Hatch Neutal Alliance maker, Lynched D2
5. LifeinMomLand: Jessica "Sugar" Kiper Town Roleblocker, Blindsided N2
6.Deception: Jerri Manthey Town Mason, Lynched D3
7.ralphmerridew 3iff: Parvati Shallow Mafia Flirt Blindsided N3
8. Sentran: Russel hantz Mafia Goon, Lynched D4
9. Zag: Colby Donaldson town Neutral Mason/Challenge Dominator lynched D5
10. Applesauce/Jedo: Yau-Man Chan Town idol finder, blindsided N5
11. jadesmar Elethiomel: Bob Crowley Town Idol Maker lynched D6
12. Captain Aniima: Sandra Diaz Twine, Town Cop, Blindsided N6
13. Mackay: "Boston" Rob Mariano, Mafia Godfather Lynched D7
I am locking this thread any questions ask in the sign-up thread. I will add rules and an intro later. Order for players is determined by confirmation but if you were one of the first sign-up you will be guranteed a spot. dont worry if you get cast as an alternate with how the games have been going lately you will most likely get in.
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning
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Undercover Monk
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:03 pm Post subject: 2 |
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The Rules (this time stolen from no one.)
1. All decisions or judgements made by me are final. If you feel that I need to know something please pm me. I am here to help.
2. No lynch is a valid vote this game.
3. DO NOT QUOTE ROLE PMS PERIOD.
4.Once someone reaches a majority they are lynched. If a deadline is hit the person with the most votes is lynched. If there is a tie at deadline the person who got the number of votes first is lynched.
5. Please be respectful. I understand getting people angry can be part of the game but If you croos the line you will be modkilled.
6. Bold all vote and unvotes. if unbolded I probably wont see them. so I will ignore all unbolded votes.
7. DO NOT EDIT POST. If you need a post to be corrected then double post or ask me to fix it for you.
Notes on theme of this game
While this game is formatted as a mafia game some terms have been changed to reflect the theme. lynches are votes at tribal council. Some roles have the ability to win immunity for a certain period (no actual challenges will be held its just their role) They will not be able to be voted for. Night kills are also tribals but they are blind sides. Some characters may have Hidden Immunity Idols these must be played before the phase in which they are used [Ex. Chaz wants to use a HII for day 3 he must pm that he is using it night 2] IF a HII is played I will announce it until a majority is reached or deadlined. if the person with the HII is the one lynched they will be saved and the person with the next highest vote will be lynched instead. You may play the HII on anyone you choose.
OK I think thats it I will be sedning out roles some time later today. Feel free to discuss anything til then votes will not start counting til I have sent out roles. Good Luck!
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Garou_Kinfolk
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:11 pm Post subject: 3 |
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Just to satisfy curiosity, this game isn't going to include Ultimate Survivor from Kill Frog .com is it? 
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Undercover Monk
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:49 pm Post subject: 4 |
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Nope this is based on the actual CBS show.
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2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
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Undercover Monk
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: 5 |
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Im in the process of sending out roles which does take awhile but as soon as I am done we will start the game on day 1.
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1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning |
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The Great Crep'er
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: 6 |
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*whoosh*
I has not received a role as of yet, not sure anyone else has. But I am at the ready when the mod PMs me. |
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The Great Crep'er
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: 7 |
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| Stupid simulpost, my post came before Monk's second. |
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Garou_Kinfolk
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: 8 |
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Got my role pm. Unofficial game on?
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Undercover Monk
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:11 pm Post subject: 9 |
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Some time in the distant future
The camera pans over stunning vistas, majestic waterfalls, beautiful forests, and Dangerous Wildlife. Jeff Probst stands balance on the spinning blades of a blackhawk kelicopter he had the interns steal from the nearest 3rd world military base they could find. He starts this opening monologue....
"For 59 seasons we have watched the same 20 players backstab and betray each other while we all got filthy rich. But now (to boost ratings) we have a new twist in store for our all stars. They have been neuralized by actor Will Smith (he negotiated the construction of a real neuralizer in his contract for Men In Black 10) so they dont know who each other is. But you the audience at home do so sit back and enjoy the chaos. 39 days...15 people (one of them got eaten by a dingo at a photo shoot.)...1 SURVIVOR.
This Game is On.
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2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning |
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The Great Crep'er
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject: 10 |
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W00t! Let the games begin! Let us no lynch for a few times if the mafia agree to no kill so we can reach day 39! 
Naturally I brought dice as a luxury item.
| Dice Roll: | Original Roll String: 1d15
1 15-Sided Dice Results: 11
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Garou_Kinfolk
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject: 11 |
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vote: Jedo
So Monk can have him lynched on day 1 as promised in the Game of Thrones game.
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The Great Crep'er
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: 12 |
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Vote: jadesmar Hopefully not the D1 lynch for three times running. 
Wish the dingo line made me laugh more,  I recently read a story in a city paper about a mother's child being eaten by a dingo. I think it was in Aus. (Can't be sure)
Also made me think of the Elaine scene from Seinfeld where she's high on pills "The dingo ate your baaaby"
Oops, not enough Survivor flavor in this post. Umm...eat yo rice?
Morning everyone! |
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ralphmerridew
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:15 pm Post subject: 13 |
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| Confirming receipt of role. Is it day or night right now? |
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Apple Sause
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: 14 |
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Wait, since votes only happen in a three-day period in games this small (until the last three days), wouldn't there be 12 voting sessions before the "finale"? So we'd have to no lynch two days out of every three. Considering one of the cast members got killed by a dingo (I'm hoping it's someone that's not a fan favourite), I'm sure we have to make a lot of no lynch votes to make this work.
Why the hell would Will Smith let Jiffy Pop use such a cool object?
Vote: Garou, for being the first one to post before the game started.
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Zag
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject: 15 |
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vote The Great Crep'er for making a vote but hoping it doesn't become a lynch, but I hope he doesn't actually get lynched for it.
Oh...
wait. |
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Lifeinmomland
Soccer, dance, doctor's appt. this AM.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject: 16 |
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...and the chaos ensues!  VOTE SENTRAN TRICKSY HOBBIT!
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Undercover Monk
Professor Chaos
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:19 pm Post subject: 17 |
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@ ralphmerridew it is day 1
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:38 pm Post subject: 18 |
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Welcome back TGC! Vote The Great Crep'er
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The Great Crep'er
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject: 19 |
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Thanks MNO!
| Apple Sause wrote: |
| Wait, since votes only happen in a three-day period in games this small (until the last three days), wouldn't there be 12 voting sessions before the "finale"? So we'd have to no lynch two days out of every three. Considering one of the cast members got killed by a dingo (I'm hoping it's someone that's not a fan favourite), I'm sure we have to make a lot of no lynch votes to make this work. |
Perked Nose: Apple Sause for a. reasoning out a method that obviously wouldn't be employed by the town and b. not using the appropriate emoticon for a joke-post |
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Deception
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject: 20 |
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Zag, are you still ready to play? Sure you can keep up with the younger generation? 
I don't understand Apple Sause... we only have 3 days to vote? 12 voting sessions? |
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Amb
Amb the Hitched.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:17 pm Post subject: 21 |
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| Vote Apple Sause because, 1. I can, and 2. I just can't bring myself to vote Mackay. I intended to do that first thing. |
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Deception
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:31 pm Post subject: 22 |
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I just noticed something. The Great Crep'er used RNG to decide his vote. That really looks like scum trying to avoid any relational tell being grabbed from his first vote. After all, he objectively came to vote who he did through RNG, so there is no scum motive behind voting that person in particular.
Vote The Great Crep'er |
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Amb
Amb the Hitched.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:27 am Post subject: 23 |
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The great Creper can be a little bit random. He'd be ideally cast as Coach, Tarzan, or a person who got seperated from their partner while playing the Amazing Race.
Anyway, its as good a place to start as any. Unvote; Vote The Great Creeper |
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jadesmar
Bad Puppy
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:31 am Post subject: 24 |
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| The Great Crep'er wrote: |
W00t! Let the games begin! Let us no lynch for a few times if the mafia agree to no kill so we can reach day 39!
Naturally I brought dice as a luxury item.
| Dice Roll: | Original Roll String: 1d15 Fixed
1 15-Sided Dice Results: 11
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What would you have done had a 14 come up? |
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Apple Sause
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:15 am Post subject: 25 |
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| The Great Crep'er wrote: |
| Perked Nose: Apple Sause for a. reasoning out a method that obviously wouldn't be employed by the town and b. not using the appropriate emoticon for a joke-post |
Well frig, we must have different joke-post emoticons, then.
And Perked Nose? The hell?
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Garou_Kinfolk
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:32 am Post subject: 26 |
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| Apple Sause wrote: |
Well frig, we must have different joke-post emoticons, then.
And Perked Nose? The hell? |
My guess is some kind of power. I think it's a waste to use it this early, but I could be wrong about it.
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:12 am Post subject: 27 |
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he's very capable of voting for himself!
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jadesmar
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:40 am Post subject: 28 |
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| MNOWAX wrote: |
| he's very capable of voting for himself! |
I guess you are replying to me. Why are you replying to a question that I asked someone else? |
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The Great Crep'er
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:30 am Post subject: 29 |
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| Deception wrote: |
| I just noticed something. The Great Crep'er used RNG to decide his vote. That really looks like scum trying to avoid any relational tell being grabbed from his first vote. After all, he objectively came to vote who he did through RNG, so there is no scum motive behind voting that person in particular. |
Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah. Let's rewind a bit, buddy, shall we?
First, I feel like you should know a few things before you try to play detective here:
1. Dice tag voting, whether you do it or not, is a very common practice in the GL mafia games forum. Go spend a day or two (when you have the time, of course) researching past games and enjoying the rich, argumentative playstyle, from day one to the end of the game. A lot of games have started their day one with one or more dice-tag votes. Scum or town, it is simply another element in the arsenal of "random reasonings" which are used in day one votes to provoke discussions because...and this may come as a shock to you...there is absolutely no information to go off of on day one as to who is town or mafia.
2. It is perfectly fine to use whatever method of voting you choose to employ for the day, the problem I have with your vote (and your reasoning behind said vote) is this. a. It creates a wagon, which typically indicates at least a somewhat serious suspicion of me by you, which comes with a rather unfit, shoddily built case against me b. It is somewhat premature to go around calling people scum when you have no apparent, extra information off hand whatsoever, and you have seen just two posts from me. Your reasoning is this, my dice tag hints at a move for evasion. Okay, then why not go after practically everyone? Apple Sause used random determination for his vote, he didn't know who was going to post first before the game started, it could have been anyone from his point of view. MNOWAX and Garou used reasons that were about as personally opinionated as a dice roll, why make no comment as to the 'day one reasoning' they might be hiding behind? That's why day one reasoning is as "objective" (which I suggest you look up) as it is. We don't want to make votes based off feeling or thought, we haven't even started arguing yet.
It's one thing to make a vote based off of a whim of a reason on page 1 of a game. But to throw accusations at this point is ridiculous. How about questioning me before sending me into a semi-wagon level? How about questioning anybody else before letting a possible scummy player slip away?
Unvote; Vote: Deception I want to make a distinction between this vote and an OMGUS vote. Any antagonism for him would not play a part in this vote. He has said enough things on his own to make me question his motives. I want to know specifically why he chose to look at me over a reason that wasn't exclusive to me. A dice-tag is not sufficient, sorry.
@ Amb At first glance, your post didn't make much sense. You use meta to fornulate possible roles for me based on your view of me as a player, when it is in fact UM that makes the roles and casts them. (And FYI, Amazing Race =/= Survior, yo) Then you appeared to just flat out sheep. "As good a place to start as any" I mean, really? Voting me is a good place to start when three people have taken care of that already? Are you using Deception's reasoning, are you leeching onto him? It just didn't make sense. Then, using some metagaming of my OWN I remembered that you are very adamant about the initiation of lynches so as to ignite reactions and subsequent conversation. (There is a post I can get from Heroes mafia, which I may post later) But then I also remembered playing with you when I was a noob, and your attempted evasion of a quick lynch. (When, of course, the lynch subject was yourself) And of course I noobedly provided the hammer and caused your demise, which you subsequently reprimanded me for and reprimanded the town for their quick lynching. Which is not exactly helped when you place the fourth vote on a bustling wagon. So in playing your meta, I found out that you not only sew contradicting seeds (which can be blamed on history) but that even after going after your personal history, like you did to me, you still don't make a bloody lick of sense in the context of this thread. I want to query you about the reasoning behind your vote. It's not only reckless pushing me further towards a lynch and sacrificing information town could get from placing votes on other players, but also does virtually nothing for conversation as I have no idea as to why you are voting me and cannot hold a conversation with you. Of course there is a good chance everyone will overlook this due to the loosey goosey nature of day 1. But your short post is worthy of at least a...
FoS: Amb
@ jadesmar: I put every player in the game at risk for my potential vote, which counts for something, little though it may be. The least I can do is add myself into the mix.
And Perked Nose is in the same camp as 'Raised Eyebrow' or 'Finger of Suspicion'. Y'know...body parts? I can't believe I have to say this but...NEWBS! 
I will address more later.
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Jedo the Jedi
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:33 am Post subject: 30 |
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I hate you all.
vote: The Great Crep'er
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The Great Crep'er
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:34 am Post subject: 31 |
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| Yeesh, don't know if I can provide the TL;DR version for that post. All I want are more thorough arguments for who is and isn't scum and why they should receive votes before we up and wagon someone into oblivion, and we can't do that if we jump the gun like this. |
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The Great Crep'er
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:35 am Post subject: 32 |
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| Jedo the Jedi wrote: |
I hate you all.
vote: The Great Crep'er |
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jadesmar
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:36 am Post subject: 33 |
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| The Great Crep'er wrote: |
I want to know specifically why he chose to look at me over a reason that wasn't exclusive to me. A dice-tag is not sufficient, sorry.
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Presumably, mostly this is due to Deception being an idiot. |
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Deception
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:37 am Post subject: 34 |
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The Great Crep'er: It's page one. I don't need any more reason to vote you, even if it is the second vote (out of 8 needed for a lynch, mind you).
As you know (you express this knowledge) I didn't know GL used dice tags a lot. But since you knew this, you shouldn't be suspecting me for it. My vote stays. |
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Jedo the Jedi
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:39 am Post subject: 35 |
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Just read your post, mate. I bandwagon on Day 1, so don't hate. It just sucks that it is happening to you.
Anyway, dice tags are semi-legit random vote determiners. They haven't been used in a while around here, TGC, but us old-schoolers still know what's down. Point TGC.
However, I disagree with this:
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| the problem I have with your vote (and your reasoning behind said vote) is this. a. It creates a wagon, which typically indicates at least a somewhat serious suspicion of me by you, which comes with a rather unfit, shoddily built case against me |
Mostly, I'll just argue that the "typically" doesn't apply to me on Day 1. Perhaps this statement is true for Deception or others.
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Jedo the Jedi
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:42 am Post subject: 36 |
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Are we all just simul-posting right now? I haven't played where there was this much action at once in a while. Maybe we should have a brief shouting match to determine some factions and boost the ratings?
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| Apple Sause wrote: |
| Wait, since votes only happen in a three-day period in games this small (until the last three days), wouldn't there be 12 voting sessions before the "finale"? So we'd have to no lynch two days out of every three. Considering one of the cast members got killed by a dingo (I'm hoping it's someone that's not a fan favourite), I'm sure we have to make a lot of no lynch votes to make this work. |
Perked Nose: Apple Sause for a. reasoning out a method that obviously wouldn't be employed by the town and b. not using the appropriate emoticon for a joke-post |
I do think this post is interesting.
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The Great Crep'er
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:34 am Post subject: 37 |
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| Jedo the Jedi wrote: |
Just read your post, mate. I bandwagon on Day 1, so don't hate. It just sucks that it is happening to you.
Anyway, dice tags are semi-legit random vote determiners. They haven't been used in a while around here, TGC, but us old-schoolers still know what's down. Point TGC.
However, I disagree with this:
| The Great Crep'er wrote: |
| the problem I have with your vote (and your reasoning behind said vote) is this. a. It creates a wagon, which typically indicates at least a somewhat serious suspicion of me by you, which comes with a rather unfit, shoddily built case against me |
Mostly, I'll just argue that the "typically" doesn't apply to me on Day 1. Perhaps this statement is true for Deception or others. |
Bandwagoning for the sake of bandwagoning? I suppose in Jedo-land that passes for legitimate and "excusable", but in a good town (which this is not proving to be thus far) we usually provide a few talking points before we endanger people's lives. Who is to say I am not a valuable member of the town in terms of powers? Who is to make the judgment call that my demise is what is best? That's the thing of it. It would be one thing if the amount of five votes were with some well-reasoned arguments but seeing as how a majority seemed to pile on out of carelessness and haphazard reasoning for the most part, (Except for Deception who seems to want to create scumtells out of my posts and do little else) it seems like there is little logic to why people would want to lynch me. So, yes, I am a little upset when people cannot even fake force themselves to care by making it seem as if my loss is no big deal to the town. Frankly, to find half-assed reasoning come out of the mouths of some seasoned pros is a little appalling, you would think they would at least talk to other people or to me before deciding on a lynch and handing the power to mafia so quickly without so much as a hoot.
Thanks guys. Your care for this game really shows through.
I would have loved to verbally spar with people at a safe distance and kickstart the game into a town-wide discussion. But given the current rate of 'me' votes I feel I'm left little choice.
(And just on an OOG reference, your insistence of "I BW on D1" needs to halt now and then when it is appropriate. It has the potential to hurt everyone and only for sure helps Jedo. A harmless second or third vote would seem good natured but frankly your extra vote on me when you know I have enough to be on the grill, based on what you do for the sake of doing it is selfish to say the least. Sorry.)
And yes, you wanted to cite your disagreement based on, yet again, your own personal references which I have no way of rebutting. I cite references based on what good towns SHOULD do and what good mafia who's main objective (for most games) should be doing what good towns should do. (Minus the killing off mafia part)
@Deception - -_- Go read my post again. Nowhere do I cite that I suspect you for not knowing your GL mafia history. I merely point out that is something you should know before you fly off the handle, I was explaining my reasoning for my dice tags then. Note to self: quoting me out of context is another point against you.
A claim is to come soon if no one unvotes right as I post this. No whiners from the people who collectively put me on the hotseat.
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The Great Crep'er
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:43 am Post subject: 38 |
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| @Deception some more (before I claim) No, nowhere in my post do I cite (if you had read it fully for christ's sake, no skimming) that I have a knowledge that you do not know that previous GL mafia games used dice-tags. I stated that you should know about this history for singling me out. Whether you do or not has no bearing on this suggestion. It was a suggestion based on what primitive knowledge I had of your history here. For all I know, you could've been lurking some time before or played on a site with similar voting tactics (it is not as unheard of as one might believe). You could've voted me because you felt differently about my dice-tags, who knows, the fact is, I had no knowledge about that issue before your post. Quit. Putting. Words. In. My. Mouth. They taste of shit. |
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The Great Crep'er
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:53 am Post subject: 39 |
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My Role (isn't it nice how the person with the longest posts has to claim first because of a ridiculously accelerated day one?): Rupert Boneham
I want to paraphrase this just enough so that I am not in violation of the don't quote the mod rule. What I get from the role (a description as vague and riddled with spelling errors as it is which is not ideal for a guy in my situation  ) is that I am a type of revenge townie that attacks and kills a certain numbered vote voter (information that was disclosed to me which I will not post here as I feel it will only help the mafia) if lynched. i.e. the Rupert that screams "WHO THE HELL VOTED FOR ME?!?" in Pearl Islands or the Rupert that was militant about getting Russell out in HvV.
I also was informed that I have some type of fish (forgetting what species it was) in my possession. What that does, if anything, remains to be seen.
You may choose to vote or keep your vote on me after my claim, but keep in mind you are doing so at your own possible peril.
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Potato. Belgium. Eight. Random Lynch # Mafia awaits. |
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Amb
Amb the Hitched.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:45 am Post subject: 40 |
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You have two votes...
What would you have done if you had 3? |
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