SURVIVOR MAFIA- TOWN WINS reunion show

[jadesmar]

[The Great Crep'er]

[Mackay]

IMO, lurker lynches are a double-edged sword, and an option for when better alternatives are lacking. It sucks to have the quiet ones still around late in the game, because there is so little information on them and it makes it so easy for the bad guys to lead the town. But lynching one now would yield so little information - there aren't many connections/tells you can draw from someone who's been mostly ignored by all of the players, and even the bandwagon itself doesn't say much about the scumminess of those on it because "lynch all lurkers" is such an easy-to-justify vote.

I feel as though it wouldn't be a bad course of action were there no better leads, but I think there are enough interesting ties between players that we ought to pursue one of those instead. Amb, I can understand why you might disagree. That said, lynch-all-lurkers is generally never particularly bad for the town, so I'm keepng an open mind to the idea - though right now, my vote is more likely to switch to Zag than to a lurker if it seems like "lynch for the most information" isn't going to pan out. It's all in the tone of his posts - he's being all conciliatory with TGC now, too! (Plus he's at least tied into my current conspiracy theory, if not as close to the centre of it as I want to lynch. )

For what it's worth, if we're picking someone without many posts to lynch I like itisally because of this post:

[Amb]

I hereby announce my intention to vote whichever lurker gets the bandwagon. I'm stating this now, so that if I am accused over it, I will be at least accused on the basis of my real intentions and not just because I subsequently appear to be bandwagonning.

[Deception]

vote jadesmar

Lurker lynch go

Also I don't like the reason she is voting me or the attempts to bait me into an argument with her.

[jadesmar]

[jadesmar]

[MNOWAX]

[Garou_Kinfolk]

[Amb]

Hmmm this is a quandry. Jadesmar doesnt deserve special treatment, but neither should be lynched rapid fire just like all his other games. GL mafia doesnt need another player despondent and giving up...

[Amb]

Jadesmar (11 posts) vs Apple Sause (4 posts) vs ralphmerridew (4 posts) vs LifeInMomLand (6 posts) vs ItIsAlly (6 posts) vs MNOWAX (8 posts) vs Deception (14 posts) etc

So MNOWAX is one of the lurkers, and he joins the wagon?

So Deception is 14 posts, and attacking Jadesmar who is higher than at least 4-5 others by nearly twice (or more)

So FOS Deception
Unvote; Vote MNOWAX

He is lurking, and a clear cut hypocrite.

[jadesmar]

I don't require sympathy.

I do think Deception has the highest chance of being scum. I also forgot to click the link at the bottom that said keep me updated of new posts.

So I was quiet. Not as quiet as some, but more hated than them apparently.

[Deception]

Amb to clarify, I don't only think that jadesmar is a good vote because of lurking. I think that the content of his posts is lacking, and as I said before, I don't like his reasons for voting me or for his attempts to bait me into an argument.

There is a certain charm though in lynching jadesmar. Someone should make him a title. Something like "dayrole please", or something clever. I also feel bad though because it must suck never to go to night 1. So it's null for me.

Also jadesmar, sorry for calling you female, it's just that I read your name "jade-sm-are", and I know a girl named jade. I'll be more careful though.

[Amb]

I could go either way with Deception or MNOWAX, but MNO is more blatant. I am not going to be swayed to lynch a lurker by a lurker who himself should be under pressure.

Deception is another candidate who doesnt get past day 1 that much.

[Deception]

I've only played two games here, and only once not gotten past day 1 - my first game. Off site I've played quite a few games and only not gotten past day 1 once. I'm used to finding ways to clear myself and then getting night killed later in the game.

Once again, I'm not voting jadesmar just because I think he's a lurker (lurker is the wrong term, anyways).

[jadesmar]

His reason for voting for me is that I am voting for him. He's fallen for the trap of being the 3rd person on the 1st bandwagon and he doesn't have the nuts to say it's an OMGUS vote (which has a certain validity on day 1).

[Amb]

[jadesmar]

How many votes are on me? I thought 2.

[Deception]

[jadesmar]

But the fact that I'm not a lurker does actually make the first post a posturing post. As does the fact the MNOWAX voted me for lurking.

[jadesmar]

And, I think you use the term "misquote" entirely deceptively.

[MNOWAX]

[jadesmar]

[The Great Crep'er]

I can't help but feel that Amb is leaving me out in potential coppings for a jadesmar lynch. Amb and others had recently brought up the hypothetical of a suggested lurker lynch, and, as much as it worries me to say it, I want to take some of the partial blame for this because I was the one to bring it into specifics by mentioning jadesmar. (So much for not singling anyone out!)

Also, while it is maybe somewhat helpful in setting apart lurkers from the main group, I wouldn't go too crazy over implementing a number of posts a person makes into a town or scum argument. It's a helpful technical tool, but in the end it should be about quality over quantity.

Oy...never a good idea to start reading over the thread and reflecting when the post count escalates like this.

[jadesmar]

I like the fact that Deception was actually mirroring your idea when he voted for me as a lurker, it gives support to my theory that he is scum.

Die scum.

[Amb]

We need someone who isn't part of this conversation to step in. I think MNOWAX is way more scummy, as stated in my post above. I think Deception is doing what he does, and drags players out into the open.

[Mackay]

Of the two, I find MNOWAX scummier. His earlier taciturnity (I think that's a word) was uncharacteristic, and now he's kind of switched on the usual gung-ho attitude out of nowhere.

I don't know if it counts as "stepping in" if I don't vote, but you seemed to be looking for an outside perspective, so there's mine. I still don't prefer any of the lurker-lynches to a lynch of someone I actively suspect.

[The Great Crep'er]

[The Great Crep'er]

[The Great Crep'er]

[MNOWAX]

I think Amb is a townie doing what a good scum hunting townie would do. All i see after that is TGC allowing himself latitude to jump on the wagon.

I'm always worried about PEOPLE voting for me, I wasn't worried about AMB voting for me. There is a difference.

Unvote I will claim if there is a couple more votes that jump on me.
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MNOWAX

[Sentran]

While I am usually in favor of a lurker lynch, in this instance I agree that it will yield less information than if we lynch one of the more prolific posters. Also, if we allow the mafia to redirect us from our instincts, we will end up lynching townies. I'm keeping my vote where it is for now.
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[ralphmerridew]

My reasons are that I'm not very good at reading at reading more abstract emotions. I'm much better at concrete logic. I honestly can't see relations at this stage of the game, when there's almost no reality check.

One other thing, TGC: My name is "ralphmerridew". If you must abbreviate it, "rm". "ralph" is not an acceptable abbreviation. I don't recall informing you of this, so I'll let that one pass.

[The Great Crep'er]

[Deception]

I don't agree that MNO being "more of a lurker" than jadesmar yet voting her for being a lurker is scummy.

You vote a lurker because he's a lurker to incite activity and because scum like to lurk when there are big arguments in the town. You can do this as a lurker and still be consistent.

[jadesmar]

[Lifeinmomland]

Busy couple of days but I am following along. Still happy with my Deception vote because from my perspective he is not scum hunting like he says he is.

I dislike voting a person whom I do not find suspicious but a lurker lynch might be all we get today. Since we are not under threat of a deadline I will wait to see what other information may stand out. If we end up in a lurker lynch my preference would be MNO because his play style is different this game and to me that always seems to be a tell with him. Yes I know that is meta but I have not seen anything else that is convincing to me so far so watching people for out of character behavior is what I can do. Well that and hope the scum start waving flags in my face.




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[MNOWAX]

[Garou_Kinfolk]

[itisally]