Cryptic Contest II - Final scores posted

[Suspence]

It's our second cryptic writing contest!

How it works:
1) Entrants should sign up in this thread. Cryptic sign-ups are encouraged.
2) I will assign a list of 10 words that entrants will write clues for.
3) All entrants will PM the clues they write to me, along with explanations.
4) I will post the clues and explanations in this thread. In addition to the clues written by the GL, I'll include a clue published in a respected crossword for each word.
5) All entrants will rank the top three clues for each solution. Those who did not submit cryptic clues may participate in the voting.
6) I will then tabulate the scores, awarding 3 points for Gold, 2 for Silver, 1 for Bronze, and 0 for any clues that miss the podium.
7) Highest combined score wins. We'll award three medals for each individual solution, three for the highest scoring individual clues overall, and three overall medals based on combined score from all clues.

Deadline for cryptic submissions is 11:59pm (GMT -4) on Monday 8/20.

Participants:
1) 3iff
2) novice
3) Zag
4) Amb
5) Jack_Ian
6) Vagrant
7) Elethiomel
8) Scurra
9) Thok
10) groza528
11) esme
12) Dej Mar
13)
14) Published crossword clue

Word List:
DEARTH
DISPLEASE
EXPLOIT
IMPROMPTU
NASCENT
NIGHT
NIKE
REALM
SHOT
TRANSPOSITION
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[3iff]

I'll progress from spectator to participant...I aim to finish higher than last place...

(I'd prefer that the explanations are not published before the voting.)

[novice]

Finishing second, not first.

[Suspence]

I will make explanations invisible. You may avoid them if you wish.
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[Zag]

I'm hoping I'll see some time free up. BTW, I love the idea of adding clues from a published puzzle.

[Amb]

Tree planted on roadway. This is where I will finish! (5)
Minute part of your placing. (6)

[Jack_Ian]

Heighten third last! (2)

[Elethiomel]

I'll play, with an open mind. (2)

[Vagrant]

In smidgeon? (2,4,2,2)

[Scurra]

Going for topless win
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[Suspence]

Word list is:

DEARTH
DISPLEASE
EXPLOIT
IMPROMPTU
NASCENT
NIGHT
NIKE
REALM
SHOT
TRANSPOSITION

Many thanks for Vagrant for providing a source for the published clues for these solutions.

Deadline for cryptic submissions is 11:59pm (GMT -4) on Thursday 8/16.
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[Suspence]

We'll still accept anyone who would like to enter, but please post here first. At some point we may need to cap the number of entrants.
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[Thok]

I'm in, if you'll forgive my only sending in half the words last time.

Edit: I've even written two clues so far. Go me.
Edit Edit: Up to 5.

[Suspence]

Sure. That makes 10 with the published clue. I'll take two more entrants if any are interested.
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[Suspence]

Just a reminder - please provide explanations for each clue. I'll likely standardize them to ensure total anonymity for the writers, but this will be much easier for me if you provide me something to work from.

As I said, I'll invis the explanations for any who prefer to work without them.
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[groza528]

OK, I'm in again, and I'm going to make it this time.
[edit]Half done already [/edit]

[novice]

Six out of ten now.

[Jack_Ian]

I might have to bow out - Leaving for an island for 10 days with no coverage.
If I can find any coverage I'll submit an entry.
I'll try to put something together tonight before I leave, but I've got a lot of packing to do.

[Zag]

Came across with removed glycogen storage organ? (9)

[Vagrant]

I'm probably gonna change some of my submitted clues.

Do you prefer to just receive the changed clues or do you want the full list with the changed clues replaced?

[Amb]

I'm a bit behind on making my clues. I'll have another go tonight, but if I don't finish, would there be any objection to requesting a change to the deadline till after the weekend rather than Thursday?

[Zag]

None here. I'd rather people have time to polish.

[3iff]

I've done mine...and will send them in soon.

Extending the deadline is fine by me...no point in rushing this part of the game..

[Elethiomel]

I'm also done, though I haven't submitted yet, in case I want to do some final polishing.

[novice]

I've done 9 out of 10... Kind of stuck on the tenth, it's a challenge for my creativity.

[esme]

I would like to participate.

[Suspence]

Answering some questions from several previous posts.

1) If you rework some clues, sending the whole list again is the easiest for me.
2) Deadline extended til next Monday at midnight.
3) OK, esme, you have a spot. Please submit your clues before the deadline.
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[Suspence]

FYI, I just received a submission from Dej Mar, who hasn't previously posted in this thread (or anywhere on the GL, except as a guest). Welcome, Dej Mar.

That puts us up to 13 entries including the published clue.

Does anyone see a need to revise the scoring method given the number of entries? I suppose we could vote by giving every clue a score on a 0-10 scale...
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[3iff]

I'd prefer the old system gold/silver/bronze. Trying to pick three good ones is tough. Trying to score every clue for a word would be harder/more work.

[novice]

I wouldn't mind having to award a fourth place as well, though.

[Suspence]

OK, I'll think about ways to revise it just slightly and keep you all posted.

I'm interested to see if the published clues are going to win. I like all of them, but the one limitation I had in making my selections as my own ability to parse them. It could be I left some really great ones on the table since I couldn't crack them.
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[Suspence]

Since I have seen more than one in the submitted clues, perhaps we should discuss indirect anagrams here. What are the thoughts/feelings about them?

Here's what I have seen about them from cryptipedia...

An indirect anagram is a type of anagram in which a synonym or other subsidiary indication is given partially or wholly as the anagram fodder.

Example: Unusually tough monster (5)

The solver is expected first to find the synonym HARDY for "tough", and then to anagram it to give the answer HYDRA, as opposed to being given the clue "Unusually hardy monster (5)", in which the letters to be anagrammed are provided.

During the formative years of the modern cryptic clue, indirect anagrams were commonplace; it was not until Ximenes' On the Art of the Crossword was published in 1966 that indirect anagrams began to be widely considered unfair to the solver.

The end result of this controversy is not a global ban on indirect anagrams, but general agreement that they are unfair and excessively difficult, which has lead to their disuse in almost all major cryptic crosswords.

I believe I have seen indirect anagrams panned on this site. How would the scorers feel about clues involving indirect anagrams?
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[novice]

Seems a bit odd to be discussing this prior to scoring. But I might as well volunteer that indirect anagrams are a big no-no in my book.

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[Zag]

[Amb]

Indirect anagrams can be submitted, since the submitter will be aware it will be at the risk of actually getting any points.

Same as someone who doesnt put an anagram indicator. It's part of the reason I cannot believe "Criticized Debater!" got any votes at all in the last round - let alone gold. I disqualified it for not having any indicator. I wouldn't like to drive through an intersection near this person

[Suspence]

Anything will be accepted. We'll even take clues for the wrong word I just thought new setters would appreciate the info.
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[esme]

[Quailman]

I've seen some creative anagram indicators. I didn't see one in that clue.

[Suspence]

Isn't part of the problem with Criticized debater that the anagram indicator (assuming you are OK with "criticized" as an anagram indicator, which I think I am) is also the definition?

It reminds me of Flexible relatives (9) VERSATILE, which was called by some a "semi &lit" in the get a clue thread, and didn't really work overall.
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