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Sniklac16
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 Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:20 am Post subject: 521 |
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If my math is correct esme has been lynched? I'll wait a bit just to see if anyone disputes my math
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jadesmar
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:23 am Post subject: 522 |
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| If my math is correct esme has been lynched? I'll wait a bit just to see if anyone disputes my math |
Vote count please. |
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Sniklac16
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:54 am Post subject: 523 |
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It's dusk, and yet another person stands fighting for their life. "It's not me," yells esme. Those proved to be her last words
esme Tommy Nowak Vanilla Townie Lynched day 2
It is now night, dedline for night choices will be a little shorter this time, deadline is friday december 14th
Final Vote Count: Day 2
esme (7) - Jedo the Jedi, 3iff, Dragon Phoenix, raekuul, Raearia, itisally, spyrl
Jadesmar (2) - Sentran, Garou_Kinfolk
Sentran (1) - Jadesmar
Garou_Kinfolk (1) - Leonidas
not voting: esme
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Sniklac16
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:52 am Post subject: 524 |
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PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH GAME RE-OPENING, MY FIANCE IS GOING INTO LABOR
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Raearia
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:23 am Post subject: 525 |
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(Not sure if we SHOULD post but just want to post to say CONGRATS!!!)
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Sniklac16
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject: 526 |
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I'll allow it, and thanks 
Day breaks with only 1 more body found
spyrl Lt Schaffer Cop Killed night 2
It is now day and with 10 alive it'll take 6 to lynch
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Dragon Phoenix
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:59 pm Post subject: 527 |
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OK, well, at least we can get rid of one scumbag in revenge. No need to be subtle about it, I had a one shot investigation which I used last night on Leo. Guilty.
Vote Leonidas
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Zag
Tired of his old title
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: 528 |
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Much congrats!!!! For those who haven't hooked up with GL on Facebook, this is straight from David's facebook page:
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Dragon Phoenix
Judge Doom
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject: 529 |
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Well, the absence of news in the thread made me believe it had not happened yet, but congrats!
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Sentran
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:15 pm Post subject: 530 |
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Congratulations!
Vote: Leonidas
If he flips town, DP is next.
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jadesmar
Bad Puppy
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:43 pm Post subject: 531 |
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| Vote Leonidas |
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Leonidas
Membre Daedalien
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject: 532 |
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| Don't do anything hasty... I'm Will Munny, and I am town. |
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Leonidas
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject: 533 |
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(and much congrats, by the way...  ) |
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spyrl
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:47 pm Post subject: 534 |
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Bah! go town! Stay true everyone!
Congratulations! You've joined the ranks of many other GL'rs
(and there's a Facebook GL page? Who knew?)
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raekuul
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:44 pm Post subject: 535 |
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I don't buy Leonidas' claim. Will Munny should at the very least be vig.
vote: Leonidas |
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Jedo the Jedi
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:27 pm Post subject: 536 |
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Where exactly did he claim he wasn't the vig? As far as I can tell, he hasn't claimed any associated power.
I totally agree that Leo is likely scum, mostly because I think spyrl had a guilty on him yesterday. However, I do find it interesting that DP--whom multiple people have found scummy--is not being questioned at all about his result, and that you people seem to be willing to lynch Leo without any discussion. Forgive me, but I don't think it wise to lynch within 24 hours and not throw some discussion around.
I'm guessing there is at least one scum in these four voters, possibly two.
DP, is there anything you can share about your role or character which will help us believe this is true without necessarily giving away too much?
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jadesmar
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:23 am Post subject: 537 |
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| I would say that Sentran and raekuul are the two mafia that Jedo feels are in the group. |
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Jedo the Jedi
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:01 am Post subject: 538 |
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raekuul's was the post which most stood out to me.
I will confess I'm a little suspicious of DP as the possible other scum. As soon as I saw that spyrl was a cop, my first thought was "who did she target yesterday for a somewhat inexplicable reason," and Leonidas was it. She chose him out of the lurker pool when there was already attention on esme, so it didn't feel random. It wouldn't be difficult then to claim to have found Leo guilty and run him up. It's a good bus opportunity.
Anyway, I'm still very uncertain in the whole situation. I feel Leo is scum, so it's hard to judge the people voting him. I have to look for scum bussing their buddy, but that will of course be more clear tomorrow after we for sure know Leo's alignment. I guess if he flips town we'll be looking for opportunistic scum. Plus, I still am highly suspicious of Garou, so my dilemma is that all four of these people can't be scum.
Let's get some more thoughts on the quick run and maybe even some of the kickback I've given.
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Raearia
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:43 am Post subject: 539 |
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Well I took a look at Spyrl's posts after the first night when we lost Zag and Amb.
Her first post after day break was commenting on the Garou/Sentran/Jedo triangle. Saying Garou brings up good points against Sentran.
Then a few posts later she says
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| On an other note, I have also felt that we have half of the players actually playing. It's good odds that (numerically speaking) we have at least one scum among them. I've got my eye on Leonidas at the moment. He's come into the game, basically waved at everyone and ducked his head back down |
Giving an inkling that she is suspicious of Leo.
And asking 3iff for clarification on the "im not forgetting you" comment.
Then after a suggestion of putting votes on a lurker
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3iff, I'm not protesting anything, just trying to understand your terminology and make sure I understand what it is you're talking about. Your post was ambiguous enough that I wanted to know what it was you had lumped me into with others.
I want to hear from Leonidas as he's currently posted next to nothing this game. As such I am going to vote: Leonidas until I see something from him that's meaningful/contributing. |
After Leo gives a random quote and then a vote:
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| ...Still happy with my vote... |
Then an argument about gut reads happens.
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| Finally, unvote leo, vote: jadesmar You've had almost two weeks and several pages to decide to pay attention to this game. |
This is then followed by some heavy questions towards jades.
and then a lot of posts later
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| As much as I detest siding along with Jedo, esme's lack of posting when we have been asking for content is terrible. It's been close to a week since they last posted, and while I know that real life can happen, the only person who has had less content is Leonidas (who I would happily switch back to for today). As far as voting for lurkers goes, I can see that voting for Leonidas would be pointless today with all of the votes on esme, so I will unvote, vote: esme |
Basically it seems that Spryl really wanted to go after Leo but (and Iam speculating here) couldn't bring out any proof without giving away her position as cop and didn't have sufficient evidence on Leo, hence her insistence on the lurkers posting more..again this is my speculation on her posts.
DP's supposed one shot investigation on Leo makes me pause and look more closely at Spyrl's vote on Leo yesterday as was pointed out by Jedo.
However I am also concerned about the immediate jump on the Leo bandwagon with little to no question about DP's claim of power..
Like why did you choose a lurker like Leo DP? Were you aware of Spyrl's role and wanted to investigate her suspicion? (if so, how did you know who she was?) How exactly does your one shot ability work, is it anytime day or night? Things like that I feel do require a bit more of an explanation.
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Dragon Phoenix
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:34 am Post subject: 540 |
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I can share my name if you prefer - I will not survive long anyway as a confirmed innocent. I am Ben Shockley. There is a reason why I have a one shot ability (which turned out to be an investigation after I activated it), but that's frankly not the strongest part of my role description.
When I got told by the mod last night that the ability was a one shot investigation I picked Leo because [a] he was lurking, thus not providing clues about alignment, [b] I know him as a stronger player when he is town than he is showing here.
Given the heat I have been drawing from some players in the game so far, plus that my pretty vocal reads on zag and esme were completely wrong, I expected that I might be lynch fodder today. That's why I chose to use the ability last night. And I'm glad I did.
I had not picked up on any signals from our late cop yesterday - of course, I also did not know that Spyrl was the cop.
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Garou_Kinfolk
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:24 am Post subject: 541 |
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I have looked at my interaction chart for spyrl and found that she had more negative interactions with Jedi and Jadesmar than with anyone else, including Leo. I went back to her ISO after that to get more details on those interactions, but only the early ones thinking that as the cop she would be more likely to either support a townor result or start to move against a scum one. Her first post has just that information in it.
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| Well, that really throws a monkey wrench into things. |
The only 3 situations that this line can reference are Amb's death, Zag's death, or Jedo getting immunity.
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| I had several ideas sketched out, but they're not applicable now. Re: the Jedo, Garou, Sentran conversation. I think Garou brings up a good point. |
If she received a town result, then above is the support for that townie. 
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Sentran, you were going at Jedo tooth and nail yesterday believing him scum, yet today it seems that you're just merrily going along with his findings. I find that even more suspicious considering Jedo's main reason for voting for Garou is this:
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| Personally, I'm going to vote: Garou_Kinfolk. Now that MNO is confirmed scum, I do believe I was right in thinking that Garou was trying to help out his buddy. Garou kept his vote on me for most of the day (because of what he later admitted was a misunderstanding), then strangely unvoted near the end of the day without taking a stance on the MNO lynch. The only reservation I have is that it seems so blatant, but that isn't currently enough to sway me away from this view. |
The only reservation he has about it, is that it's so "blatant". How is it that Garou's stance on MNO is any less "blatant" than something like Jedo's hard drive to get the lynch of MNO? It seems like it is two sides of the same coin to me, both things being something too "blatant" for experienced mafia players to do as scum. |
The above is a good example spyrl pointing at scum without saying she's the cop. With my own previous beliefs about Jedi being scum, I Will happily
vote:Jedi
And while she does mention Leo in her next post, it's in more of a lurker lynch suggestion than a "he's scum" suggestion.
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Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:38 pm Post subject: 542 |
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Then why did she say this about me later in the day?
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| The fact that you keep pushing both of those situations so hard as "gut reads," when in both cases the posts you are referencing are factual, is raising you in my scum list. I originally had reservations about following your "gut read" only because it stuck out as odd, but I didn't think you were scummy for it. Now, I'm beginning to question the scummy part. |
She's playing really coy if that's the case. The more striking pursuit is her pursuit of Leo as "a lurker" when there was already pursuit of another lurker. That's where you see cops more often. Of course she can't call him scum in that situation, but she can try to establish which lurker to pursue. She even gave slight indicators of why he seemed more scummy than esme.
Beyond all that, I notice you don't comment on the fact that DP claims to have identified him as well, making Leo the obviously lynch today after some discussion. Are you trying to divert from your buddy's lynch?
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itisally
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:27 pm Post subject: 543 |
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I have to admit that I didn't see any subtle reads from Spyrl until Raearia pointed it out. But the logic seems sound. Spyrl is very careful with her words most of the time and trying to shift a lurker lynch would be difficult. Giving away her role?Deadly. However it seems death was in store anyway, what are the possible motives of the mafia in this case?
I am concerned about the quickness of the votes at the beginning of the day, or even the quickness of the declaration of results.
Hypothetically:
If I had done an investigation and come up with a guilty I would wait to bring the information forward knowing that a day will have some conversation and that the first wagon of the day is likely to fall apart as a natural course of discussion, therefore I f I was serious about it I wouldn't want to be the first accusation of the day.
If I were scum and I saw someone report an erroneous result with such force I would likely follow the lead. If the lynch goes through I would have a viable excuse.
If there is the possibility for redirects, roleblocks and the like we have not yet addressed it in relation to these results.
The quick vote that looks scummiest to me? Sentran, he is always a skeptic why didn't he question these results.
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Sentran
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:00 am Post subject: 544 |
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| itisally wrote: |
| The quick vote that looks scummiest to me? Sentran, he is always a skeptic why didn't he question these results. |
Oh, I question everything. The thing is, whether or not DP is lying, we have definitely caught one scum. Either DP is lying (which would only make sense if he were scum), or Leo is scum. We can't prove the former without the death of the latter, so I placed my vote where it would do the most good.
Incidentally, I've been going along a new route with my investigations. While it's possible (even plausible) for a scum to be on the wagon of their buddy, it's more likely to catch scum outside of that list. By the same token, it's more likely that scum will place a vote on a town bandwagon than not. So, given this line of reasoning, I looked for people who were not on MNO's wagon but were on esme's wagon. There were only 2 names on that list, TGC/itisally and raekuul. I'm watching the two of you carefully, and looking further into your posts.
I have not given up on watching both Jedo and jades, but I refuse to blind myself to other possibilities by following only one line of thought.
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3iff
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:04 am Post subject: 545 |
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Just catching up with the new day...but I'm REALLY REALLY upset that esme didn't make the slightest effort and we lost a town member without any fight or protestation...the mafia must have been chuckling to themselves over this.
BTW: Congrats from me too. |
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3iff
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:58 am Post subject: 546 |
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The quick votes on Leonidas seem a bit too rushing. Maybe a mafia plan to promote a bandwagon on a teammate in the hope that everyone will back off because it seems too premature?
I was looking at the ISO from spyrl. It's not clear to me who she might have investigated, but Leo does seem the most likely? She was also giving jadesmar a hard time for lurking but jadesmar had no trouble leaping onto a Leo vote once day started.
In fact, DP, Sentran and jadesmar all registered votes for Leo in the space of 45 minutes. Now this might be coincidence but maybe it's more concerted. In any case, it's all too hasty. We don't have to lynch someone immediately and I'm suspicious of those that are trying to make it happen.
DP's investigation sounds a bit convenient (allowing others to pile on). What if the 'investigation' gives the reverse result (insane cop style?). While his role name might help clarify the role, I'm a bit reluctant to ask for it as it'll help the mafia.
Jadesmar votes for Leo (post 531) then accuses Sentran and Raekuul as mafia (post 537) but chooses to remain voting for someone (Leo) that both of these players are voting for. Care to explain, jadesmar? |
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Dragon Phoenix
Judge Doom
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject: 547 |
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A one shot investigation that is insane, naive or paranoid is bastard modding. I don't think that we need to take that into account.
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3iff
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject: 548 |
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How about a redirection? I'm not saying I don't believe your information...I'm just considering the possibilities.
1. Your info is true
2. Your info is false/misleading but you consider it true
3. You're lying.
I'm happy to state that I have no idea which of the 3 it might be.
I'd appreciate views from others. |
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jadesmar
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: 549 |
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| 3iff wrote: |
| Jadesmar votes for Leo (post 531) then accuses Sentran and Raekuul as mafia (post 537) but chooses to remain voting for someone (Leo) that both of these players are voting for. Care to explain, jadesmar? |
By way of explanation, Leonidas was outed by a one-shot investigation. |
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Dragon Phoenix
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject: 550 |
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How about a redirection? I'm not saying I don't believe your information...I'm just considering the possibilities.
1. Your info is true
2. Your info is false/misleading but you consider it true
3. You're lying.
I'm happy to state that I have no idea which of the 3 it might be.
I'd appreciate views from others. |
A little WIFOM would help here. The most simple explanation is that Leo is scum - no point to speculate about un-provable re-directors . Anyway, [3] is ridiculous* unless both Leo and I are scum in a weird gambit, in which case we still get to lynch a scum by lynching Leo. You all can decide on me later in the game (if I do not get killed by the mafia first).
* Why on earth would I sac myself as scum this way to take Leo out of the game - and then get auto-lynched the next day?? Bad trade.
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jadesmar
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:41 pm Post subject: 551 |
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How about a redirection? I'm not saying I don't believe your information...I'm just considering the possibilities.
1. Your info is true
2. Your info is false/misleading but you consider it true
3. You're lying.
I'm happy to state that I have no idea which of the 3 it might be.
I'd appreciate views from others. |
You forgot one.
4. He's lying, but his information is false, so he's actually telling the truth. |
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3iff
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject: 552 |
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DP...re option 3, fair enough. I hadn't thought of it that way. If Leo did turn town it would make you look suspicious, and that's something you would be trying to avoid if you're mafia.
But having Sentran and jadesmar leap onto the vote straight away makes me uneasy. |
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jadesmar
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject: 553 |
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| But having Sentran and jadesmar leap onto the vote straight away makes me uneasy. |
I posted the explanation for my jumping on that vote. But sure, ignore that and just post about a general uneasy feeling if you must. |
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Jedo the Jedi
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:02 pm Post subject: 554 |
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| jadesmar wrote: |
| 3iff wrote: |
| But having Sentran and jadesmar leap onto the vote straight away makes me uneasy. |
I posted the explanation for my jumping on that vote. But sure, ignore that and just post about a general uneasy feeling if you must. |
Here's the thing though: none of us have reason to disbelieve DP, but it's still suspicious how quickly people have latched onto it without any (visible) consideration. I'm still somewhat uneasy about everybody currently voting Leo because they didn't stop to think or even pick up things from yesterday. Day is when we have to discuss, so Leo will be lynched when we are finished discussing. There's no need to worry about that.
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jadesmar
Bad Puppy
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:10 pm Post subject: 555 |
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| Jedo the Jedi wrote: |
| jadesmar wrote: |
| 3iff wrote: |
| But having Sentran and jadesmar leap onto the vote straight away makes me uneasy. |
I posted the explanation for my jumping on that vote. But sure, ignore that and just post about a general uneasy feeling if you must. |
Here's the thing though: none of us have reason to disbelieve DP, but it's still suspicious how quickly people have latched onto it without any (visible) consideration. I'm still somewhat uneasy about everybody currently voting Leo because they didn't stop to think or even pick up things from yesterday. Day is when we have to discuss, so Leo will be lynched when we are finished discussing. There's no need to worry about that. |
Here's a thing:
That comment was directed at 3iff. Why are you responding for him? |
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3iff
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: 556 |
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Seems Jedo has the same uneasiness as me as to the undue haste to lynch Leo without any discussion. DP may be right and Leo may be mafia but surely we can talk for a few days rather than steamroller a lynch.
FoS: jadesmar |
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jadesmar
Bad Puppy
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: 557 |
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Seems Jedo has the same uneasiness as me as to the undue haste to lynch Leo without any discussion. DP may be right and Leo may be mafia but surely we can talk for a few days rather than steamroller a lynch.
FoS: jadesmar |
See that's irritating.
When I'm poking at someone to see how they respond Jedo jumps in and does the responding.. and then the person I'm poking is just "ya, what Jedo said". Well, if I don't have any suspicions of Jedo right now, and I want to poke at 3iff for a bit. Jedo, stop jumping in.
That being said, I'm fine with discussing but you seem to feel as if I'm not on top of the game at all times, and would allow the vote to get to a steamroller situation. But, that's not where I am in this game currently. I have the ability to change my vote if it gets too close and I feel there is more to discuss. |
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Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: 558 |
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Here's a thing:
That comment was directed at 3iff. Why are you responding for him? |
I'm sorry. Was there a question in there somewhere? No, there wasn't. As it is, I wasn't responding on behalf of 3iff; I was voicing my own, similar uneasiness regarding your comments. I cannot help it if 3iff chooses to piggy-back my sentiments.
Tell me how exactly I'm supposed to be assured that you are able to change your vote before a steamroll lynch. The first four people to post voted for Leonidas, leaving six people who haven't spoken. Do you know that those six people won't check in and vote just as quickly as the others and that they won't do so when you are conveniently online and able to unvote?
I didn't think so.
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itisally
Master of Disguise
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: 559 |
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@ Jadesmar -- If you are addressing a person please use their name. It seemed you were addressing the attitude/ uneasiness that many of us have expressed so many of us could have answered. However, I think your response to that irritation is sincere, so no FOS from me for that.
Sentran, I have to think more about your logic early in the game. On most scum lynches there is at least 1 scum hiding to gain credibility. If they are lucky they are in the middle of the pack.
What you seem to be saying it that in this case that would leave 1 in 8 on the MNO lynch and maybe 2 in 7 off the lynch. Better odd off they lynch indeed. But little evidence to gain momentum. It may be a tough sell and it depends on only one Mafia being on the lynch.
Early in the game I would expect two as it is easier to hide getting on and off a wagon. So on the MNO lynch that would have been 2 in 8.
I can see it better in the late game where the comings and goings on a wagon are more closely scrutinized. There are fewer places to hide
It is moments like this that I wish I had time to go back to old games and actually gather the stats for such things…
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jadesmar
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject: 560 |
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| Jedo the Jedi wrote: |
| jadesmar wrote: |
Here's a thing:
That comment was directed at 3iff. Why are you responding for him? |
I'm sorry. Was there a question in there somewhere? No, there wasn't. As it is, I wasn't responding on behalf of 3iff; I was voicing my own, similar uneasiness regarding your comments. I cannot help it if 3iff chooses to piggy-back my sentiments. |
Whatever dude, it should have been fairly clear that I wasn't talking to you.
| Jedo the Jedi wrote: |
Tell me how exactly I'm supposed to be assured that you are able to change your vote before a steamroll lynch. The first four people to post voted for Leonidas, leaving six people who haven't spoken. Do you know that those six people won't check in and vote just as quickly as the others and that they won't do so when you are conveniently online and able to unvote?
I didn't think so. |
Sure, I can. In that it's never happened ever in the history of anything. |
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