Werewolf: the Apocalypse Mafia [GAME OVER - Town wins]

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[Raearia]

Well I won't deny being there at Jedo's body. I am not scum nor am I a SK. I am however a Vig. I went after Jedo because I thought that he was in league with Zag. I am suspicious of those who go after each other's throats so hard in this game. I view it as a cover up. I am sorry to say I was wrong. I was reluctant to reveal my role because the Vig would be a target for sure by the scum.
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[Sentran]

The information that has been shared so far, especially in regards to Durryn and myself, makes sense with what behind-the-scenes info I received. Get of Fenris is a logical choice for either Vig or SK.

@Raearia: What was your night zero choice?

If she's truly the Vig, why was there no Mafia night kill?

For now, Unvote
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Raearia]

N1 was an unsuccessful attempt on Sentran. N2 my results were only using a blade to decapitate an already injured Jedo.
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[Durryn]

I am sorry folks, I just received my night action PM.

It puts me right back where I was to start with.

UNVOTE: VOTE LIML
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[jadesmar]

[Sentran]

Vote: Lifeinmomland
I've never trusted the Red Talons anyway.
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Lifeinmomland]

Well good job guys. You got Rea's role out there for the scum and now you are gonna try for mine too. Perp, Sentran and MNO have conned most of the game into reveling DAY 2!!! Now you are gonna make a play for my role too based on what exactly? Someone who can't explain himself? Or won't, whichever. First he hints at special knowledge that makes me suspious, the supposed mispost only he know about, enhe decides I am in the clear after Perps info and now that he supposedly got his night PM I am on the block again. Yea, that is reliable info.

Well I won't fall for it. One of you is scum leaning the town by the nose getting us the reveal roles day 2 so you have plump picking for your night kill.

Who is next itisally? Let me guess the cry will be her conservative play is a scum tell.

Who you should be looking at are the ones who turned Sentran's request for tribe info into a full blown day two reveal. Come on guys. Think about it. A doc, a cop and 2 more investigators? Someone is lying.
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Who is John Gult?

[Perpentach]

So looking at Night Kills what I think happened was,

Night 1 Mafia and Vig target Sentran, who is protected by a doc, quite possibly MNOWAX

Night 2 Mafia and Vig target Jedo, who is protected from the Mafia by his ability (Tough Townie) but is finished off by the Vig

Looking back over my post I realized that it's not that the only four people near Jedo were the people I noticed, but rather those were the only four that I could distinguish. I'm going to have to do a better job of reading, I guess.

[jadesmar]

I am amused by everyone in the game picking Sentran as their night 1 target.

[jadesmar]

[jadesmar]

[Durryn]

@Perp: What happened is I received my night actions PM.

@MOD Please verify for everyone my not having received my night actions PM until after my previous statements and vote (approx 1945 PST). Also, if you would be so kind, verify you had made a mispost to the list rather than to is intended PM target.
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[Sentran]

It's true that someone is lying, or at the very least not being completely forthright with their answers. The question is, who? The only way to determine that is to pressure people for more information. It seems a lot more useful to try to determine the Wyrm in wolf's clothing than to try to figure out who did what on previous nights. Of those left alive, we have...

Sentran: Child of Gaia Kinfolk, no power claimed
Perpentach: Gurahl, Song of Terra (non-standard investigator)
jadesmar: Silverfang, investigator
Lifeinmomland: Red Talon, no power claimed
itisally: Uktena, non-standard investigator
Raearia: Get of Fenris Kinfolk, Vigilante
Durryn: Fianna, no power claimed
MNOWAX: Child of Gaia, Mother's Touch (Doc)

This leads me to a few questions, or at least one, for multiple players. Since we have most of the info on certain players in this game, I think this question should be innocuous enough to to garner any hatred.

@jadesmar, Raearia, itisally: What is the name of your power?
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[jadesmar]

[Garou_Kinfolk]

[MNOWAX]

well ez game then. we Kill LIML. Rae don't shoot anyone tonight. Jades, look for our last one while I protect you, and Perp watches me.

If that doesn't finish the game, and perp can't find any more info, we kill Rae. If that STILL doesn't do it, jades will have had enough protection to investigate enough people to make an reasoned decision on who to kill next.

Vote: LimL
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MNOWAX

[Sentran]

Unvote
I will not rush to a lynch.

FOS: MNOWAX
Incidentally, faking Doc is extremely easy. Just choose those who were not killed, and claim to have protected them.
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[jadesmar]

[jadesmar]

So, it's more like

Claim those that weren't killed, and also don't kill anyone.

[jadesmar]

What I'm trying to say is:

It's easy to fake being a doctor if you claim people that you have protected haven't been attacked and other people have died in their place.

It's much more difficult when the evidence says that the protected people have been attacked and been saved by a doctor. Or, at the very least one of the two killing parties has been stopped every night.

[MNOWAX]

[Sentran]

If you feel this is too much info for public, let me know.
@Perp: How do you determine the location where you use your ability? I am curious as to how you found the area around Jedo, and when it happened (as in could he have been hurt/killed before you got there, and you didn't see what had gone previously?).
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Perpentach]

I went looking for a body, and I found one. It's quite possible that he could have been hurt before I arrived, or it could be possible that he was attacked twice and I couldn't "smell" both of the attackers.

[Raearia]

As a kinfolk I have no gifts or abilities but I do have a Talen called Valkyrie Daggers,they are silver blades, I have a total of 3 to use, I have used 2 already.

@Jades: Sentran was a random choice for me on N1. I just rolled a dice.

As far as MNO's plan the only concern I have is that it is out in the open giving the scum a chance to work around it.
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[MNOWAX]

[MNOWAX]

It actually is quite bad luck for the scum here, losing one of their two members. this affords the town so much in terms of mislynches.

I would definitely be interested if Rae is actually a SK here. A vig, three effective cops, a doc and a tough townie smells like a SK as well as a mafia syndicate in the pool. but none of that will matter.

Rae if you are a SK, towns have done deals to spare SKs in the past...
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MNOWAX

[Raearia]

I am not the SK. I am the Vig. But you do make a good point about roles. I am not usually a verbose person but I sat down tonight and am just going to ramble out my thoughts. I know that can get me in trouble but here goes.

Here is the issue I am still coming back to. I am concerned with the cop and 2 non standards investigators. I feel like that is to many investigative roles. I know what I am about to say will make me look suspect but I feel like the actions that have taken place are seemingly out of sorts.

We have Jades who says he has an investigative ability as a cop, investigates Sentran N1 who comes innocent. He goes after LiML D1. Instead of investigating LiML to see if she is confirmed guilty he instead investigates Perp who also comes up as innocent. I get wanting to clear or catch as many people as possible to win for us townies I just find this odd, if you think someone is guilty why not investigate them?

We have Durryn, who has yet to claim his power but has inside info on LiML which suggests an investigative type ability, though he did say he was not investigative. He says she is guilty based off of information he has yet to share.

Perp investigated the body that I came across as already injured. He was able to distinguish that yes I was there but so was Durryn and Sentran. Both of which have yet to claim power roles. Why were both of you there?

Ally, what did you mean when you said your results could be messed with? Do you mean like you got wrong information?

I am bringing up these points because Durryn is the only one it seems to have any information to confirm LiML as guilty yet is not willing to say what it is. I just want that confirmation. Like Sentran said I don't want to rush to a lynch.

Just to be clear I am not defending LiML, I am however wanting to make sure we are looking at all our possibilities.

MNO I still see your plan as flawed. What if one of these people are lying about their investigative roles? Then we would be screwed because there is a hole in our defense. Sentran already said earlier trust no one, and I feel that one of our investigators isn't telling the truth.

(I just want to say you people are all crazy and make my head hurt by making me think THIS MUCH. Can I just go back to blindly trusting and believing in my fellow man! haha)
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[Raearia]

Sorry for the Double post had another thought

LiML: If everyone is claiming and you are being targeted why would you not want to be more co-operative. I understand not wanting to give away your role to the scum but you cant give us an idea of your ability at all?
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[jadesmar]

[jadesmar]

I also didn't see the point of wasting my investigation on someone I was very sure was guilty instead of someone I was only slightly sure was guilty.

[jadesmar]

The other question I considered was, "What if I found LiML innocent?". I would somehow have to do a complete turn-around on my voting history without giving away the fact that I was an investigator.

[Durryn]

That isn't a problem anymore as we have you listed as the Cop now.

We know the scum will go after you, once they kill MNO as the Doc.

I still have no desire to yield my Role, however I will disclose that I followed LIML directly toward Jedo and lost sight of her inside Jedos' patrol area, yet LIML doesn't appear in the list of people around Jedo and I do.

And according to my PM I didn't arrive to Jedo until after the Anthem of War, which confuses me as to my arrival (according to Perp) before Rae who killed him, as that would have let me see the killing blow............ Right?

@Sentran, why where you there?
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[Durryn]

Sorry for the double but I realized I spelled were wrong and would rather limit wiggle room on my question.


@Sentran, Why were you with Jedo?
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[Sentran]

I was not with Jedo per se, I was assisting Durryn. My role power as kinfolk is "helper". I can choose one other player to assist each night. It is unknown to me how that plays out. I chose not to use my power on night 0, and I chose to target Durryn last night.
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Lifeinmomland]

I was waiting to reveal my role because I know someone is lying. I needed the lies to be out there so that they can be revealed.

My ability is called Prey's Cry. It allows me to protect myself by blocking a player that voted for me, and we're still voting for me at end of day. In addition I am limited to 2 times. I had no night action n0 because there was not a day session. Then day 1 the day ended with Jades and Itisally voting me. Of those two I picked Jades to block.

So last night I was no where near Jedo. I blocked Jades who claims to have a night result.
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Who is John Gult?

[jadesmar]

[Lifeinmomland]

I listed my tribe already. I am Red Talon. In fact that was Sentran's reason for voting me, because he "never liked" Red Talons.

There is noting in my role PM to suggest that the person has to target me at night to be blocked. You are lying you were blocked by me last night.
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Who is John Gult?

[Lifeinmomland]

Vote Jadesmar
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Who is John Gult?

[jadesmar]

What's your play here? Convince the town that I'm lying?

Having me lynched will show that I am telling the truth and that you are lying scum.

So, what are you trying to accomplish with this play?