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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:31 am    Post subject: 3881 Reply with quote

To get this rolling again:

September to November in two days. (5)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:01 am    Post subject: 3882 Reply with quote

September to November makes me think of Autumn/Fall, but this is only accurate for the Northern Hemisphere, which is not alluded to in the clue.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:45 am    Post subject: 3883 Reply with quote

Nice clue. The answer is MONTH - MOnday + N(ovember) + THursday.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:25 am    Post subject: 3884 Reply with quote

I'm a bit disappointed in the clue September to November in two days. (5) if it is indeed parsed as novice has indicated.
September, though a month, is not MONTH. The clue should have indicated this in some way, such as an adjectival or adverbial clause or another grammatical unit that would indicated that September was only one of the set of months. For the answer, (even though Mo. is a rare abbreviation for Monday) I would politely applaud the clue if it were For instance, September to November in two days. (5)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:50 pm    Post subject: 3885 Reply with quote

I have no big issue with just saying 'September' as the definition clue for 'month,' though I agree that adding 'for instance' improves it. My problem with the clue is that I don't get where the 'Monday' is coming from. ... or the 'Thursday,' for that matter. Is it supposed to relate to when the clue was posted? Because the (time-zone adjusted) date of the posting is, from my perspective, Friday. What have I missed?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:01 pm    Post subject: 3886 Reply with quote

It's just the letter N in (between) the abbreviations for two different days.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: 3887 Reply with quote

A question - what does everyone here use as a resource for cryptic writing? I often go here - http://cryptics.wikia.com/wiki/Cryptipedia - for a little help.

Does anyone use something else/better?

Would there be any appetite for building a similar (but hopefully better) resource here, compiling an extensive list of different wordplay indicators (with examples, perhaps?)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:23 pm    Post subject: 3888 Reply with quote

I have to agree that we need a "for instance" or somesuch. I'm willing to give leeway to the definition in a cryptic, but in this case I think it's just working backwards. "September" for MONTH seems a little off, but I would have no problem with "Month" for SEPTEMBER even though in a flat crossword it would have to be "A month."
On the other hand, I do not like "MO" as an abbreviation for Monday. It changes the wordplay a little bit, but what do people think of "It might be September in two days" ? I like "MON" is fine as an abbreviation for Monday. And TH I think is ok for Thursday too. But they're inconsistent; is that a problem?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: 3889 Reply with quote

Maybe It might be September in two short days. That feels fair.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: 3890 Reply with quote

Shouldn't that be

It might be October or November in two short days. (5)

or how about

Possibly march north in two short days. (5)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:19 pm    Post subject: 3891 Reply with quote

Groza's clue was using Mon for Monday.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: 3892 Reply with quote

Improvise drama twelve months after a sequel. (4,2,3)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:18 am    Post subject: 3893 Reply with quote

Nice clue.
PLAY BY EAR = improvise

PLAY = drama
YEAR = twelve months
after (following)
B = 'A' sequel


Proceeds received from Western designs.(5)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: 3894 Reply with quote

That was WENDS.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject: 3895 Reply with quote

Two smaller states surrounding one large state. (5)

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:02 pm    Post subject: 3896 Reply with quote

Your really have a thing for US states, don't you? :p

That was Maine - MA + NE around I.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:12 pm    Post subject: 3897 Reply with quote

Commuter going from Malta to Portugal uses this for his daily cryptic fix. (8)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: 3898 Reply with quote

get a clue wrote:
Your really have a thing for US states, don't you? :p


Yep , they really are ideal for puzzle fodder. I wish other countries would do something similar with their states/territories/etc.

Seafood from four small states on the coast (8) - CALAMARI
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:41 am    Post subject: 3899 Reply with quote

get a clue wrote:
Commuter going from Malta to Portugal uses this for his daily cryptic fix. (8)


This was COMPUTER.

COMMUTER substituting PT for MT (or just P for M, not entirely sure what the logic is).


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:54 am    Post subject: 3900 Reply with quote

It's on the shores of Lake Victoria, in a hole, and home to many great explorers. (8)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:26 am    Post subject: 3901 Reply with quote

PORTUGAL = "home to many great explorers"
PORT(UG)AL = UG (abbreviation for Uganda) - "It's on the shores of Lake Victoria" = UG..."in",,,PORTAL (a hole or door in a vessel) = "a hole"


Home to one who is unsuccessful. (4)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:11 am    Post subject: 3902 Reply with quote

Perhaps that hastily created clue was too obscure. Here is one for the same password that might be much less so:

To fully fail is to fall flat. (4)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: 3903 Reply with quote

That was Flop.

One who is bottled up? (4)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:01 am    Post subject: 3904 Reply with quote

It isn't the password, but one possible answer could have been:
PUPA
"One who is bottled", i.e. 'bottle-fed', could be 'A PUP', with "up" as the indicator to reverse the direction of the letters, giving 'PUPA'. A 'PUPA' is also an insect 'bottled up' inside a cocoon.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:31 am    Post subject: 3905 Reply with quote

Ok, how about:

One who is frequently drunk? (4)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:43 am    Post subject: 3906 Reply with quote

Another non-password answer:

One who is frequently drunk? (4)
OTIS is an anagram of {I ('one') + SOT ('who is frequently drunk'), the anagram indicator being the &lit clue itself}
OTIS = "One who is frequently drunk" (Otis Campbell was the fictional town drunk on The Andy Griffith Show)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:06 pm    Post subject: 3907 Reply with quote

Nothing as complicated as that, a little lateral thinking might be required though.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject: 3908 Reply with quote

I'm thoroughly impressed by DejMar's answers, whether or not they are what was intended. Dude, you're working awfully hard for these! Extreme Delectation
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:42 am    Post subject: 3909 Reply with quote

With a little lateral thinking, if the clue was several years ago, the
following might have been an answer:

MOON = 'One who' (Keith Moon was a former member and drummer of the band Who)
MOON = 'frequently drunk' ("moon" can mean 'be idle in a listless or dreamy way' or 'have dreamlike musings or fantasies while awake' -- characteristics that could be that of one intoxicated.)
MOON = 'One who is frequently drunk' (Keith Moon had a noted alcholic addiction)

With a larger stretch...
JOJO = 'One who' (the young Whovillian who shouted YELP! in Horton Hears a Who)
JO(e) = a cup of coffee often drunk - 'frequently' used as an indicator to repeat it, giving JOJO
...hmmm, seems to be an even greater stretch to connect it to the &lit clue.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:50 am    Post subject: 3910 Reply with quote

Surely the answer is AQUA (a + qua)? It's not working as a password.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:49 am    Post subject: 3911 Reply with quote

Hey LordKinbote, nice thinking. I see how aqua can be "One who is frequently drunk?"
A = 'One'
QUA = 'who is' (in the capacity or character of)
AQUA = water, which somewhat fits the &lit clue: 'frequently drunk?'
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:33 am    Post subject: 3912 Reply with quote

LK's suggestion is not the intended answer.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:53 am    Post subject: 3913 Reply with quote

BE-ER = 'One who is' (BE 'is; exist' + -ER, suffix denoting the agent)
BEER = 'frequently drunk?'
BE-ER = 'One who is frequently drunk' (Isn't existence to eat, DRINK, and be merry?')
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:04 pm    Post subject: 3914 Reply with quote

You seem to be assuming it's an &lit. Just your first two definitions work fine. Anyway, that's looks like the answer, so you should take it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:16 pm    Post subject: 3915 Reply with quote

Okay, BEER was correct. (I needed to look up the word in an old unabridged dictionary to confirm that the word did exist to mean 'one who exists', Zag - even then the out-dated dictionary indicated the word with this definition as Rare. I was half-joking in the answer, as I did expect a &lit clue as the clue otherwise did fail to provide a who or what to the 'frequently drunk' component with BEER as the answer.)

Among one thousand one: five hundred. (4)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:18 pm    Post subject: 3916 Reply with quote

That one is AMID: a + mi + d.

One left frequently high. (5)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: 3917 Reply with quote

Nice one...that was ALOFT

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:13 pm    Post subject: 3918 Reply with quote

Start to stupidly listen to a con artist. (5)

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:17 pm    Post subject: 3919 Reply with quote

SHARK [S (Stupify, start to) + HARK (listen to)] and [con artist]

Everything starts to give out. (5)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:16 pm    Post subject: 3920 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
A question - what does everyone here use as a resource for cryptic writing? I often go here - http://cryptics.wikia.com/wiki/Cryptipedia - for a little help.

Does anyone use something else/better?

Would there be any appetite for building a similar (but hopefully better) resource here, compiling an extensive list of different wordplay indicators (with examples, perhaps?)


Any thoughts on this? I wrote it awhile back and it got lost in the discussion of a clue.
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