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 Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:53 am Post subject: 3721 |
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Adding spaces to the user name helped. :)
Next: Small lower body part! (4)
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:44 pm Post subject: 3722 |
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Nice clue. Password hasn't been changed.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: 3723 |
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That was CALF
Fake gold in the foreign exchange market (4)
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:58 pm Post subject: 3724 |
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That is FAUX I think.
New clue coming up. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject: 3725 |
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This one was constructed by my brother.
A beautiful number (10)
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Zag
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:10 pm Post subject: 3726 |
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| Could someone explain the wordplay for calf? Maybe I'm dense, but I'm just not getting it. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: 3727 |
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| Zag wrote: |
| Could someone explain the wordplay for calf? Maybe I'm dense, but I'm just not getting it. |
Small lower = young thing that lows (moos) = calf |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: 3728 |
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| novice wrote: |
| Zag wrote: |
| Could someone explain the wordplay for calf? Maybe I'm dense, but I'm just not getting it. |
Small lower = young thing that lows (moos) = calf |
Ah, then that isn't really an &lit clue and the exclamation mark is misleading. An &lit uses the whole clue for the clue part and the whole clue for the word play. This uses, arguably, the whole clue for the clue part but only half the clue for the wordplay, making it much more like a double definition. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:30 am Post subject: 3729 |
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| LordKinbote wrote: |
| novice wrote: |
| Zag wrote: |
| Could someone explain the wordplay for calf? Maybe I'm dense, but I'm just not getting it. |
Small lower = young thing that lows (moos) = calf |
Ah, then that isn't really an &lit clue and the exclamation mark is misleading. An &lit uses the whole clue for the clue part and the whole clue for the word play. This uses, arguably, the whole clue for the clue part but only half the clue for the wordplay, making it much more like a double definition. |
Aha, thanks for clarifying.
The clue stands on its own as a double definition too. Or the exclamation mark could be replaced by a question mark, since some lateral thinking is required. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:29 am Post subject: 3730 |
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| I apologize for intruding, but do you have a chart which defines punctuation and what it implies in cryptic crosswords? |
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Zag
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:26 am Post subject: 3731 |
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Ahhh. Yes, I was busy trying to make it into an &lit; I was really hoping that there was a small body part called "serb" that I didn't know of, because it would then have been a great &lit; (Small = S and part of lowER Body.) As it is, it's a good clue, but I agree that a question mark (or nothing) is more appropriate.
Deception, the only one that is fairly consistent is the &lit; symbol, which is the exclamation point. People also sometimes use question mark to indicate either a pun or some trickery beyond the usual wordplay (such as "lower" for calf).
I've been collecting &lit; clues. As LK said, they are clues where you use the same words as both the definition and the wordplay. In the best ones the different words are used very differently and there are no words left unused in either the definition or the wordplay. Here is my list:
Introductory shovel commonly operated on pellets! (5)
Trash bag gear! (7)
Final extreme termination found! (3)
Regulation: usual legal entity, at first! (4)
Premier article! (1)
Instrument: crime scoop! (10)
Just holding up! (10)
Alcohol delivery store! (4)
Alternative "ABBA" in odes! (5)
Semi sly!! (7) (A double-&lit. Use it once for the definition, once for the wordplay clue, and once for the wordplay object.)
Mythical eely dame usually seen absolutely once! (6)
Holds your nose! (3)
Worthy toss, without question! (5)
Store has keys, half off! (6)
Beginner's help? I'm nearly through! (4)
Dash in there!! (4) (Another double-&lit)
Ultimately wish I seen it! (4)
Container to keep, originally, unbelievable lucre! (5)
Washer in Seattle has this job! (5)
Written by others, but I happened to stumble on them. Credit is given if I know it.
Head of the French (and, secondarily, Belgians)! (4)
Adding scratch to face card! (7)
This is contained in a dumb…um, post! (4) Tahnan
A danger used for insulating choice! (8)
Twelve plus one perhaps! (6,4,3)
Sounds like what the cop did with the cow's husband! (12)
Throw your weight about as reb scot! (5, 4) Celt
(or just:) Throw as reb scot! (5, 4) Celt
Combined substances with vegetable content! (7) Jack_Ian
Musical part that is involving heavyweight! (8) Oscar
Sort of lepidoptera, Californian primarily! (6,6) (Answer: Tailed Copper) Oscar |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:20 am Post subject: 3732 |
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Ooh, &lit fun.
Just holding up - SUPPORTING
Mythical eely dame usually seen absolutely once! (6) - must be MEDUSA, but I'm not quite sure how.
Holds your nose! (3) - URN?
Worthy toss, without question! (5) - THROW
Washer in Seattle has this job! (5) - RINSE
Adding scratch to face card! (7) - MARKING
This is contained in a dumb…um, post! (4) Tahnan - BUMP
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject: 3733 |
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Hey Zag, I'd be curious about your take on this one... I really like it but I'm not sure if it's completely legit:
Panel! (5)
Obviously the reason I like it is because it's only one word, which I've only seen matched by Q's "ladyfinger" (not &lit) |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: 3734 |
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That was anesthetic
Nursing home residents covertly tape nurses again (15)
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:57 pm Post subject: 3735 |
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Hey Zag, I'd be curious about your take on this one... I really like it but I'm not sure if it's completely legit:
Panel! (5)
Obviously the reason I like it is because it's only one word, which I've only seen matched by Q's "ladyfinger" (not &lit) |
Is that BOARD?
There was just a discussion on one word &lits on the NPL mailing list. Here are some from that discussion (quality may vary).
Coach! (5)
Trunk! (5)
Peeps! (5)
Puff! (6)
Topper (4)
Aloha! (2) |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:21 am Post subject: 3736 |
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| Yes, board is correct. For those who don't see, it's a double definition, being a synonym in two different senses (that afaik are not related etymologically). |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:12 am Post subject: 3737 |
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Last was septuagenarians (anag of tape nurses again)
Septuagenarians often put a South African coin of average value in among ladies' companions. (12)
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Zag
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| Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:17 am Post subject: 3738 |
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| Suspence wrote: |
| Ooh, &lit fun. |
I'm glad you like them. Most of them are from this thread, so they might be familiar.
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| Just holding up - SUPPORTING |
This is my favorite of the &lit; clues I have written.
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| Head of the French (and, secondarily, Belgians)! (4) |
I also love this clue. I read it in a puzzle magazine some years ago, but don't recall the author. I love this one because the surface reading is so good, nothing is wasted, and the words don't even phrase up the same way between the definition and the wordplay.
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Mythical eely dame usually seen absolutely once! (6) - must be MEDUSA, but I'm not quite sure how. |
"once" is a kind of weak wordplay clue for "ones" or "firsts."
| groza528 wrote: |
| Hey Zag, I'd be curious about your take on this one... |
| groza528 wrote: |
| Yes, board is correct. For those who don't see, it's a double definition, being a synonym in two different senses (that afaik are not related etymologically). |
I don't hate it, but I'm all about the wordplay.  |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:22 pm Post subject: 3739 |
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That was g(rand-par)ents
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Merkel's agreement: half of capital (reportedly Pan) to be kept in by poetry (11)
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| Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:58 pm Post subject: 3740 |
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| Zag wrote: |
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| Head of the French (and, secondarily, Belgians)! (4) |
I also love this clue. I read it in a puzzle magazine some years ago, but don't recall the author. I love this one because the surface reading is so good, nothing is wasted, and the words don't even phrase up the same way between the definition and the wordplay.
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Indeed. Even knowing what the answer must be it took me some time to parse the worldplay.
(Answer is TETE - (head of the = t) + (french and = et) + (secondarily Belgians = e)) |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:56 pm Post subject: 3741 |
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I need a hint. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:41 pm Post subject: 3742 |
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Two hints for the price of one:
_ _ _ B _ _ _ _ _ _ _
and don't trust the capitalisation
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: 3743 |
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_ _ _ B _ _ _ O _ _ _
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: 3744 |
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Is it OK that I solved it with a2zwordfinder.com? There were only 8 options, and only one I recognized as related to a poem.
O, frabjous day
I have no idea how to get this word from the wordplay, though...
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:56 pm Post subject: 3745 |
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| In hindsight, it's German yes -JA, half of BERlin, sounds like wok -WOCK, kept in BY, well the part following JA is kept in. |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:58 pm Post subject: 3746 |
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This should be easier, I'm sure...
Sore shepherd (6)
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Zag
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:12 pm Post subject: 3747 |
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Is it OK that I solved it with a2zwordfinder.com? There were only 8 options, and only one I recognized as related to a poem.
O, frabjous day
I have no idea how to get this word from the wordplay, though...
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I had the same process, but I wasn't going to take it since I couldn't understand the wordplay. In hindsight, I can only say, "Wow!" and, of course, "Callooh! Callay!" |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:24 pm Post subject: 3748 |
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Last was tender
"What's that cowboy holding?" "A franc," he responded. (7)
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject: 3749 |
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Merkel's agreement: half of capital (reportedly Pan) to be kept in by poetry (11)
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jab·ber·wock·y
n.
Nonsensical speech or writing.
[After "Jabberwocky," a nonsense poem by Lewis Carroll.]
Surely this clue qualifies as an &lit?
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:08 pm Post subject: 3750 |
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FWIW, i only got as far as JA before seeing the answer and back-solving. |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: 3751 |
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That was Rancher
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: 3752 |
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Chill out, sea crest. (4)
There are two equally valid solutions. The password is the two solutions concatenated alphabetically.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject: 3753 |
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"What's that cowboy holding?" "A franc," he responded. (7)
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Nice clue. I always forget to check for hidden words. Gets me every time.  |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject: 3754 |
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Last was hillrest
Skofnung, for example! (5)
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:12 pm Post subject: 3755 |
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Last was sword (s-word)
Dire Straits! (7)
(Apologies if this one has been done, if so I just rediscovered it.)
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:34 pm Post subject: 3756 |
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Last was artists
Dire Straits CD is entertaining (9)
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:08 pm Post subject: 3757 |
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"What's that cowboy holding?" "A franc," he responded. (7)
--Zag |
Nice clue. I always forget to check for hidden words. Gets me every time. |
Thanks! I like to spread them across three words, which usually makes them tricky to spot. You should search for some of the signmaker puzzles in this forum -- you'll probably appreciate them.
Ok. I'll make one.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:10 pm Post subject: 3758 |
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Last was distracts
Tea consumed in here! (5)
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:51 am Post subject: 3759 |
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That was China (et lit double definition).
El has seen this one before, but it's appropriate for GL:
Monitor I/O error amazes inhabitant.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:00 am Post subject: 3760 |
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