WSU IS&T 1100 Week 4-5

[CrystyB]

Originally posted by Dark Legionaire in reply 25:

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So I think that I have everyone beat on the computer topic.

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Almost. BUT having one for each family member shadows the fact that your dad uses one lousier than mine. OK since Cheese insisted, i had been using (and i still intend to do, after it's fixed, or at least the malfunction is found) a 486 (?dx4?) ?100MHz? w/ 800M HDD and *maybe* an SVGA vid.card with a tiny little bit of cache in it. No anything else, because i bought that 2 years ago for my personal use, which is limited to gaming and programming (and maybe text/HTML editing). Games from 10 years ago i could never get tired of, and programming in Pascal 7 and C++ 3.1 went fine on it. And Win 3.1 on top of DOS 6.22 is working fine... After all it was the SO/Interface i had on my family's first comp 8 years ago! And almost the exact same specs...

Originally posted by replier 27:

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THe good thing is it hasn't crashed yet plobably bacause it is in safe mode

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If this was a little bit better spelled, i'd have used it as a sig!! and that says something: all this time i didn't use one lousy sig yet...

[Allaround1]

I'm not quite sure what we are supposed to be talking about. All I've read so far is computer stuff so I might as well post bout that. I've got a Pentium II 450Mhz, 128 MB Ram and so on. Now I've updated to a kick ass AMD 1800, 256 soon to be 512 Ram, 90 Gigs and so on. Anyways, I suppose I should go write my essay since it's do in 3 hours, shouldn't have worked all weekend, lol.

[princesspony]

internet dating? never heard of it, but i don't see the point...what all can you do? just might as well stay in a chatroom and try to cyber...that's pretty much how most people want a date to end anyways, with some action...right?

[luminous]

I disagree. Dating over the internet gives you an opportunity to get to know and like a person for their personality rather than being shallow and going for looks alone. There is a downside, however. Long distance relationships are hard to keep up with and such. Oh, and your internet lover could turn out to be a creep. But whatever floats your boat, I guess.

*wanders back out of thread*

[firemeboy]

Cheese, have you ever heard the Month Python sketch in the cheese shop? Your invisible text made me think of that. Nothing to do with Technology, other than if you really wanted to you could get it off Kazzaa...




Oh, one other comment from ages ago.

Spanglish said:

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Hey smoked gouda cheese,
That makes sense, science is the use of the technology that is created. Thats pretty interesting... and it looks like the teach is gettin his feathers ruffled.. thats pretty funny. Oh esta, todo bien.

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This is one of the most interesting, and frustrating, things about the discussion boards: Misscommunication. We don't realize how much we rely on facial expressions, tones, gestures, etc. when we communicate until they are taken away. So much so, that we've invented smilies to try and express ourselves so people know when we are kidding, mad, etc..

I laughed when Cheese called me

[Spanglish]

Hey, its so true that people get misinterpreted when they type something. In the situation your talking about teach, I picked up on the joking and wanted to play with it a little. Its amazing how much it has to do with peoples senses of humor too. A lot of people wouldnt make that sort of joke but others really enjoy it.

And internet dating, whats the deal with that.. physical attraction has to be a part of dating, granted you can send pictures and all but its not the same. Dont get me wrong, physical isnt the most important thing but it is something important in the dating scene.

Just a few thoughts from spanglishs mente. Lo diria en espanol pero solo unos cuantos me entenderian.. por ejemplo.. little one.

[xcrystalheartx]

I think internet dating can be a good thing, if you are very lucky. I have a friend who has met 2 boyfriends through the net, and they were really nice guys at first, and after a while being with them, they are both turned out to be complete crazies. I try to stick to talking to people on the net that have some connection to me, people i know from school, or at least that live in my area, it has worked out so far.
There are people all over who go out and meet people from across the world, i personally think its pretty insane. I mean, it's not like you know they are telling the truth. There are also a growing number of people who have been raped or maybe even killed that way. So just be careful of the people you talk to, and even more if you are actually planning to meet them!

[firemeboy]

I just checked cnnfn.com about the NASDAQ (We discussed today in the MWF class about the downturn in the economy). I was wrong. I thought it was just under 2000 (down from 6,000 a little more than a year ago). It's actually at 1200. Much less than I thought. That means if you put in your life savings of 1 million dollars in the NASDAQ, you would have about 200,000 left. All that in little over a years time.

A good example of bad investing.

[360]

It looks like the baby-boomers will need to stay at their jobs a little bit longer looking at that rate of return!

[Allaround1]

Is the babyboomer thing what people are worried will ruin social security? I sure hope that doesn't happen, we're all paying into it now I sure want some when I'm an old duffer.

[Cheese]

Da Teach said:

[hondo]

i think i know someone who may have tried it. not me though, sorry.

[firemeboy]

You've got to listen to that sketch. I've got a copy if you want...

[Dark Legionaire]

Kaaza isn't illegeal, the program is actually quite legal, the only thing that is illigeal is what people have on their computers. So in actuality all should use Kaaza so that we can all benifit from the hard working people that have made it possible to get anything we want without spending millions buying everything. I think that Napster had the right idea coming up with this kind of software, it is just a shame that it turned into a pay site, but it is better that these other sites have come out of the woodwork and are giving us the access to enjoy all of the wonderful music, movies, and other things that a person might find there.


Seing what the Nasdaq is at now makes my last post about the country going to shambles more accurate, lets just hope that Shining Gundam is right when he said that we would find a fix. Lets hope this "fix" comes soon, or we might see another depression that could be worse than the last one in the 30's. Isn't it ironic that when the industrial age was at it's peak the US had a depression which sparked the technoligical age. Now the technoligical age is doing very well and we are starting to see the same things happen that happened back then. What will we goto next after this wonderful age of technology.

[firemeboy]

It's important to note that the NASDAQ is the tech heavy stocks. The Dow didn't fare anywhere near as poorly, though it definately suffered. I believe the high was up around 12,000 and it's currently hovering around 8000.

[firemeboy]

Why don't we spice this up a bit? We talked a bit about techno rage (or we will tomorrow, depending on what class you are in). Anybody have any good stories? Like I mentioned, my brother bashed in a keyboard once (back when they were attached to the computer). That led to a long dry spell of computer gaming on our little apple.

[MusicLily]

I think that over time the amount of the gap between the rich and the poor will vary so much that we will have the two extremes. The very, very rich and the poor homeless people who cant do much to live normally in the world around them.

[Kanchaser]

I am very interested by the comment about the NASDAQ falling and perhaps another depression in sight. It is odd that you ask why this could be when we are in the highest peak of technology. This peak will contineuw to rise I'm sure. I hope that we aren't getting ready to have another depression.

I also think the comment about the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer is very true. What about our tuition going up. Isn't that a pretty good example of that. I wish that people would agree to help narrow that gap just a little bit.

[This message has been edited by Kanchaser (edited 02-12-2003 10:37 PM).]

[volrath]

lets see tecno rage, no cant say that i have broken anything but if i could aford it i would have gone through a lot more computers than i already have. Sometime i feel like a baceball bat would do wonders.

[chocolate]

I haven't bashed in any keyboards, but have certainly felt like it. But I have cussed a blue streak trying to deal with computers and hooking up new devices. This has been as recent as last week trying to hook up a new copier/printer/scanner. Still isn't hooked up! Oh well!

So teacher, what about the sugar you said you would have to bring to class to liven us up?

[Allaround1]

I know that we aren’t talking about hacking yet but I ran across I little article that was kind of interesting, it's not to long so read up if you'd like.


WASHINGTON (Feb. 12) - Real patriots don't hack. Uncle Sam says only he can do that.

The FBI's National Infrastructure Protection Center warned Wednesday that growing tensions between the United States and Iraq could lead to an increase in global computer hacking activities on both sides.

``Regardless of the motivation, the NIPC reiterates such activity is illegal and punishable as a felony,'' the agency warns on its Web site. ``The U.S. government does not condone so-called 'patriot hacking' on its behalf.

``Further, even 'patriotic hackers' can be fooled into launching attacks against their own interests by exploiting malicious code that purports to attack the other side when in fact it is designed to attack the interests of the side sending it,'' the agency said. ``In this and other ways, 'patriotic hackers' risk becoming tools of their enemy.''

The warning comes less than a week after administration officials confirmed that President Bush had signed a secret order allowing the government to develop guidelines under which the United States could launch cyber attacks against foreign computer systems.

The United States has never conducted a large-scale cyber attack, but officials said last month that the administration's unfolding cyber stategy will specify that the Defense Department can wage cyber warfare if the nation is attacked.

The NIPC warning doesn't address the government's role in such attacks, but it makes it clear that individual attacks on computer networks are illegal, regardless of the motivation. The agency specifically cited patriot hackers who target Iraq or its sympathizers, hackers opposed to war who target U.S. systems, and those who would use the crisis as a guise to further personal goals.

``As tensions arise, it is prudent to be aware of and prepare for this type of activity,'' the agency said.

NIPC said computer network administrators and computer users should take precautions to guard against cyber attacks while tensions between the United States and Iraq are high.

02/12/03 18:07 EST

[Edogg]

Hey, I used to have a pretty old and aged computer, but my grandparents ended up taking that to be able to start catching up with technology in a way that a lot of people did. Start with the small stuff. I think that I would have more trouble working with the older computer than the one I have now. I've forgotten all of the DOS commands and stuff. Oh well

[Spanglish]

Talking about tech-rage, I agree with what we were saying in class.. Its too dang expensive to stsart breaking computers just because your a little upset... I have broken a few disks when the computer wont start up because of "system disk error" or whatever it is that it say.. I am guilty of taking the disk out and pronouncing death upon in.. Then I always find that my report was on that disk and I just kicked myself in the teeth by destroying the disk. But thats my only example of tech-rage. A moniter or a tower.. no way, too much cash to waste.

[TGR]

First of Monty Python rocks. I have no idea what my comp specs are anymore since I have been away from computers for a long time and my folk bought a new one and what not but yeah anyways. Internet dating is one of the stupidest things I think. First off you don't know who it is you are talking to or even if they are what you want. it is just really stupid and antisocial. And as for hacking who cares the government has always been hyprocritcal anyways.

[firemeboy]

Nice article, thanks Allaround...

[Cheese]

Hello!
The worst technorage I've had is to perform one of the following rituals:

a) Remove offending CD from rom.
b) Take CD between thumb and forefinger of each hand.
c) Apply generous pressure until CD shatters into glorious relief.

a) Get screwdriver.
b) Use screwdriver to remove infuriating hardware component from unit case.
c) Use screwdriver to get even with hardware component.

Clearly, I can't do this often, but I have done each of these at least twice.

My younger brother (about 6yrs old) is the one with serious techno rage. Screwdrivers, plastic swords, fists, even magnets have been tried. All with stern parental results.

~Lingot Saint Bousquet d'Orb
The monks of the Saint Bousquet d'Orb monastery in Hérault have made this little goat's cheese "Lingot" for centuries. Produced from milk that is particularly tasty, due to the vegetation of the region, Lingot gives off a subtle aroma of undergrowth and a herb taste of thyme and rosemary.

[firemeboy]

LOL! Does anybody own a copy of Office Space? That movie was mentioned today in the T-TH class. I believe I've seen that clip of people taking the fax machine out into a field and beating the living microchips out of it.

[karrots]

As for techno rage and me. I personaly havn't done anything too damaging. My father though gets a little too fed up with the computer when it freezes on him. I hear him throw the mouse. Personaly I think computers know who is nice and who is not and then act accordingly. Sometimes it will freeze and freeze on my father I will come out and try it and it works fine. Its always frustrating to him.

Karrots

[firemeboy]

Karrots, this would be a good time to mock your father, tell him that he doesn't know anything, and see if you can't get some of that techno rage focused on you, rather than the poor mouse.

[catman]

Although the idea of internet dating does sound interesting, I would opt to not do it. Sorry but in dating, how the other person looks has a great deal on if I were to go out with them. And whose to say that there might be some sick freak on there whose playing to be someone who he is not. Nope, not for me, chat rooms fine but online dating, no I stick to the real thing baby!

[Cheese]

Erm, Karotts, if there is one person with suicidal tendencies, that doesn't mean you have to follow them

~Taleggio
Buttery, delicate, semi-soft and subtlety sweet cheese from Italy made from cow's milk. It usually has a square shape. The cheese has a special taste and aroma. The crust is pinkish-gray and the paste is white, supple and fruity. It ripens in 25 - 50 days and has a fat content of 48 per cent. There is also a cooked-curd version which is firmer and bears a resemblance to Mozzarella. Taleggio is also known as Stracchino (from the Italian stracche (fatigued) which referred to the cows of the area after travelling back to the valley from their grazing season in the high pastures. Taleggio is an excellent dessert cheese that goes very well with a robust wine.

[Mack]

I agree with karrots, I also belive the machine personaly knows who the user is. I then takes the past knowledge it has of the user and acts accordingly. I also belive they have feelings, they are very sensitve machines. Take care of them and they will do the same. (I am talking about the machine NOT windows, windows is the evil twin that everyone has to like!!!!!)

[catman]

The worst example of technorage I had: I was up in the attic (where the computer was) trying to do something, I don't even remember what, and it froze at least I thought so. It was taking forever. So I tried to stop the operation by typing some things and clicking some things and nothing worked. I got mad and started hitting the keyboard and then the computer and it still refused to work. I just so happened that we had just took our baseball stuff up to the attic that day and there was a bat leaning against the desk. I grabbed it and took a swing to bash the screen in. Just as the bat was about 6-8 inches away, it completed the task, but that was too late by then I had waited for 17 minutes!

[Cheese]

That's fantastic catman! I'll have to tell that story to a few friends.

~Garrotxa
Garotxa is a modern, farmhouse, unpasteurized hard cheese. Although this cheese is based on an old recipe, it has been developed and marketed, using modern methods. The pure, white milk seems to have absorbed the flavor of fresh walnuts and the scent of mimosa, while retaining the fresh crispness of young grass. It comes in gray-rinded felt textured discs and it has a bone, white interior. It has a mild flavor, nutty, with herbal hints.

[firemeboy]

Catman, that is great! I wish we had a video of that. Are there any 'remains' you can bring into class?

[catman]

no, it was old anyway so we just junked to whole thing. I was the only one in the house that could make it work. So we junked it. and now we also have a super old computer I'm thinking real serious about bashing also!

[catman]

I have to go to work now, all I can say is if you can work technology properly it makes things a breeze and for everyone else, but those two people in the world who can do that, technology is complicated, and confusing and extremely stressfull.

[JoBlack]

Ok I think this whole computer thing is a little dumb. Lets talk about this new war that is coming about. We can look at the tecnological look at it. As far as the weapons part. The Weapons of Mass Destruction. How we have the ability to take pictures from space and know for fact that as soon as the insectors go to the area of inspection we see the Nukes go out the back door. And they claim they have nothing to hide. How we have the technology to intercept phone calls and other miteral such as video. Why was the tecnology for nukes and missles needed for? Anwser me that

[Jaamal]

The work place has changed alot and I beleive that it has changed for the better. Although their are some side effects from having IST at the work place there are more benifits. Ten years ago even five years ago you didn't here of people working at their home, now some one Alska can do work for a company in Texas. No longer do you have to do personalized training for a new employee which can be expensive and time consuming,you can just have them watch a hour training movie. If a company needs to change something they don't need to print hundereds of copies for there employee's they can send them emails. It is easier to keep tract of surplus. You can also do more work in a quicker amount of time. IST in the work place is a very good asset and I feel lucky to live in a time period where we have it.

[allstate]

I don't have much to say as far as computer rage, maybe I haven't had to deal that extensively with them yet; If I ever do get frustrated I try to remember humans are not perfect so our machines aren't either, I once read in a car fixit shop:

A car contains at least 20,000 working parts, if the car arrives 99.9% perfect from the factory then there is a chance that at least 200 parts will malfunction.

Think about that.