Dip YT - 7-way draw

[AhoInu]

Autumn 1911, dpy file only is up, T retreat.

[CrystyB]

disband it.

[Antrax]

Die die die suck alliance scum. vote: draw.
Antrax

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"If it comes down to a choice between being unloved and being vulnerable and sensitive and emotional, then you can just keep your love." -Victor Mancini, "Choke"

[mith]

Yes, another game that needs to be over.

[AhoInu]

It is Winter 1911, Builds retreats asap

[mith]

F Bre, waive the other.

[Antrax]

A Arm, waive the other.
Antrax

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"If it comes down to a choice between being unloved and being vulnerable and sensitive and emotional, then you can just keep your love." -Victor Mancini, "Choke"

[Antrax]

A Sev, that is. Waive the other build.
Antrax

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"If it comes down to a choice between being unloved and being vulnerable and sensitive and emotional, then you can just keep your love." -Victor Mancini, "Choke"

[AhoInu]

hang on here, If I have an A Arm and wave the other is that my B Arm? What if I've only got one arm? As for mith and his F Bre I assume that's short for breast (size F at that) , and can only assume that this game is degenerating into a slugging match with spare body parts

[mith]

As long as his Arm stays away from my Bre...

[crazycellist]

Build F Tok

Wow, my last post before this was in March... I've got to start talking again...

[AhoInu]

It is Spring 1912

[CrystyB]

John, if you don't mind, i think the DPY is out of date.

[AhoInu]

It was, my bad, fixed it.

[mith]

Orders in.

[Antrax]

NMR NMR NMR.
Antrax

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"If it comes down to a choice between being unloved and being vulnerable and sensitive and emotional, then you can just keep your love." -Victor Mancini, "Choke"

[mith]

NMR NMR NMR

[Antrax]

NMR the mod, declare Russia the winner by default.
Antrax

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"If it comes down to a choice between being unloved and being vulnerable and sensitive and emotional, then you can just keep your love." -Victor Mancini, "Choke"

[mith]

Who are we waiting on? This is getting a bit ridiculous.

[Maximus]

Not me
NOTE: Kill all the frogs , thanks

[AhoInu]

It is Fall 1912

I shall declare a draw if no SC's have changed hands by Spring 1916

[mith]

Whee, stalemate line.

[Antrax]

Bored now, etc.
Antrax

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"If it comes down to a choice between being unloved and being vulnerable and sensitive and emotional, then you can just keep your love." -Victor Mancini, "Choke"

[mith]

Orders in.

(bump)

[mith]

*~bump, again~*

[Antrax]

Oh yeah. ~goes to submit orders~
Antrax

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"If it comes down to a choice between being unloved and being vulnerable and sensitive and emotional, then you can just keep your love." -Victor Mancini, "Choke"

[mith]

Bah. How can I complain about us being almost a week past a deadline if *you* haven't sent orders?

[Antrax]

So maybe I have sent. I never miss a deadline. Isn't the deadline tomorrow?
And answer my email.
Antrax

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"If it comes down to a choice between being unloved and being vulnerable and sensitive and emotional, then you can just keep your love." -Victor Mancini, "Choke"

[CrystyB]

well it's not only him...

[AhoInu]

I have received a draw offer from both "sides" in this game. A draw can only be granted if all players so desire. Please email me "Draw agreed" or "No draw" and I will announce the result. All countries still in play share equally in the draw.

[mith]

Draw, of course.

(And I'll be happy to share my notes on the last few seasons and the next year, whenever a draw is agreed. It's such a pretty line. )

[This message has been edited by mith (edited 07-03-2003 08:55 PM).]

[Antrax]

Draw.
Antrax

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"If it comes down to a choice between being unloved and being vulnerable and sensitive and emotional, then you can just keep your love." -Victor Mancini, "Choke"

[mith]

*~bump~*

[CrystyB]

fine, draw. Heck, i should be happy that i have survived!

[AhoInu]

Game drawn by mutual agreement of the 7 players

[mith]

First off, and I think most everyone should know my opinion on this by now, but I think it is pretty ridiculous for any Diplomacy game to end in a 7-way draw. This was more of a two player game than anything.

Second, here's the email I sent to Antrax and CB, in case any of you lot are interested. It shows how we finish setting up the stalemate (33 SCs, 23 units needed for it).

Originally posted by mith:

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Well, that was sort of anti-climactic. I was hoping they would at least do something interesting, to warrant me looking at this map so much.
The stalemate line is complete, we've even still got Smy (I suppose Maximus gave up?). And now the moves are pretty obvious; a bunch of supports, with only one remotely interesting necessary move (A Mar-Bur, because the stalemate line actually requires a fleet there).

France:
F English Channel Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Gascony - Morocco
F Gulf of Lyon Supports F Western Mediterranean Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Irish Sea Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Marseilles - Burgundy
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Convoys A Gascony - Morocco
F North Atlantic Ocean Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Piedmont Supports A Tyrolia
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Spain(sc) - Western Mediterranean Sea
A Tyrolia Supports A Piedmont
A Vienna Supports A Trieste
F Western Mediterranean Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea

Russia:
F Black Sea Convoys A Rumania - Armenia
A Budapest - Klug
A Monte Negro Supports A Albania
A Moscow Supports A St. Petersburg - Omsk
F Norway - St. Petersburg(nc)
A Rumania - Armenia
A Serbia - Bulgaria
A Sevastopol Supports A Rumania - Armenia
A Smyrna Supports A Rumania - Armenia
A St. Petersburg - Omsk
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia
A Ukraine Supports A Sevastopol

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea, no move received
A Albania Supports F Greece
A Ankara Supports A Smyrna
F Constantinople Supports A Smyrna
F Greece Supports F Aegean Sea

I added a few fun things we can try (attacking TYS and Arm, mainly). The key stuff should be obvious.

And then, after my fleet build, we've got 23 necessary units, with the rest just sitting around. We can do something more creative with them. Maybe Antrax and I can have a little fake war.

France:
F Brest Hold
A Burgundy Hold
F English Channel Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Gascony Hold
F Gulf of Lyon Hold
F Irish Sea Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Marseilles Supports F Gulf of Lyon
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Hold
F North Atlantic Ocean Hold
A Paris Hold
A Piedmont Hold
F Portugal Supports F Mid-Atlantic Ocean
F Spain(sc) Supports F Gulf of Lyon
A Tyrolia Supports A Piedmont
A Vienna Supports A Trieste

Russia:
F Black Sea Supports A Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Hold
A Klug Hold
A Monte Negro Supports A Albania
A Moscow Hold
F Norway Hold
A Rumania Hold
A Sevastopol, no move received
A Smyrna Hold
A St. Petersburg Hold
A Trieste Hold
A Ukraine Hold

Turkey:
F Aegean Sea Hold
A Albania Hold
A Ankara Supports A Smyrna
F Constantinople Supports A Smyrna
F Greece Supports F Aegean Sea

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[jeep]

Hmm... So did everyone just give up?

-JEEP

[mith]

We had a stalemate line. The other four were unwilling to attack each other. Nothing left to play for.

[Fried Egg]

I agree with Mith. Even though I wasn't playing in this game, I think it's riduiculous that we end up with a 7-way draw. Why did people bother playing a game they were willing to allow to end up in such a stalemate?

You lot should be ashamed of yourselves!

[Antrax]

I concur. I think a draw is a shame to a 4-country force, but I'm quite proud of the fact I survived my third game with almost nobody to rely on. I'm deleting all the emails from this game (400k!) except for one by fmb, which I want to post here if he won't mind.
Antrax

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"If it comes down to a choice between being unloved and being vulnerable and sensitive and emotional, then you can just keep your love." -Victor Mancini, "Choke"