Return of Newbie Maf 5

[A Neo Inside]

Orbiting: I don't know who any of the Corleones are, so you obviously know more than I if it's a 50/50 choice.

From my seat, the GF could be any one of 4 people.

[A Neo Inside]

Gah...Why isn't my post showing up?

And when it does, I hadn't read the other posts b4 posting that one.

No, I'm not Corleone.

No I'm not Capone.

One of the reasons I wanted vote confirmations was so that I could look for people working together and still have a bit more breathing room, unfortunatly I don't have the luxary of looking at a group of three, now I have too look at two. My reasoning is this: You are Corleone. If Orbiting is not working with you, your fellow scum will cast the third vote.

Orbiting: I haven't seen a shread of logic to see why you think makemeok is the Capone, unless of course your a Corleone.

[makemeok]

hey, i'm not voting for you yet, buddy. i'm somewhat less confident of my ANI/Orbiting theory now, though.

[makemeok]

nuts. still clueless. i'll vote: sketchwick for a little while, and probably switch back to ANI just before the deadline if nobody joins me. i love how sketchwick said "the best we can do is everyone state who they are thinking of voting for and why" and then proceeded to post next to squat himself.

[makemeok]

and in case anyone's forgotten, that deadline is an hour and a half away.

[sketchwick]

No lynch is a loss for the town I think, with no one else thinking the way I do I will unvote orbiting, vote ANI

sketchwick

[makemeok]

maybe it is SK and sketchwick... *shakes head*

oh well. lemme think...

[makemeok]

vote: ANI

[makemeok]

oh yeah.. unvote, whatnot.. man, this endgame stuff is really killin' me.

[makemeok]

*does a crossword*

[A Neo Inside]

Townies: ANI, ?

Corleones: makemeok, sketchwick

Capone: ?

Dead townie: ANI

I guess I'll offer up my congrats to the Corleone family. I'd hoped to get one of you #%$&#@s this round.

[makemeok]

[A Neo Inside]

I know one of them is sketch.....

You people should really listen to me.

I begged and pleaded for the cop to come out, ya'll disagreed, and the cop was killed the following night.

I asked for the Capone to step forward, you can't win anyway, the best you could do was make sure the Corleones didn't. Gee thanks for the help there.

I will now make my token unvote makemeok and vote Sketchwick although unless we get 4 people in like 10 minutes, it won't happen.

I'm tired of fighting. I tried, nobody seemed willing to accept that I'm town. Now that remaining townie, whomever they may be, will suffer. And the Capone will die.

[makemeok]

er.. deadline was an hour ago, Neo. midnight GL time. right?

[A Neo Inside]

Well, yeah, thats what it's token.

And some mods go with the majority even if it comes after the deadline, since they weren't here....I don't know how OG would go, but hey, gotta go down trying.

[makemeok]

well, plus, you do have a majority, don't you?

[A Neo Inside]

pssh, I don't know who's voting for me anymore.

I'd like to see Sketch have at least two though.

[makemeok]

guess you should've voted a few hours earlier, then.
and if this is a Corleone ploy to make sketchwick look innocent, then, well, nuts to you.

[A Neo Inside]

Three would be great, 4 a miracle.

But you people have listened to me at all in this game, why start now?

[sketchwick]

Saberkitty was in fact our Godmother. Yay me and her for winning our first mafia game. Zealot helped a lot. The highlight of the game was zealot asking us if we should go after last cop or mafia. Cop! The he said he suspected HorseriderMS or someone else, and if HorseriderMS was the cop that he could garuntee she investigated him. Poof, no more cops. It was also cool to see the doc help lynch the other doc. I apologize to the other final four for dragging things out so long, I could have voted makemeok for a long time and SK would have thrown the 3rd vote on. I just didn't trust orbiting, I was afraid she would unvote as soon as I voted him. I was trying to figure out when SK usaully checked the thread so I could time my vote right. The night it happened the other thread died. Thanks to OG for being nice and fair and not making us confirm our votes. I wasn't worried about the ties or anything, pretty much the town had to have a clean lynch of SK or I to have a chance.

I can't belive so many people missed that Corsato cleared SK. Had that turned into an accusation of her being the GF, it could have been bad for us. I thought she was suspiscious the whole game, and I wouldn't be suprised if both cops investigated her. I'd like to hear from the cops and see who they investigated.

I'm betting on Orbiting as the last Capone. We thought mikegoo since he came out gunning for SK...we assumed he put the innocent = GF thing together. We tried to kill mentat on the night we missed a kill, so that's why zealot came out of nowhere with the accusation. I think SK jumping his bandwagon immeadiatley slit his throat though. Oh! Special note to zealot, if mikegoo had been mafia he would have killed me, so you were right about that.

One final word: shame shame on cubestudent for asking for doc protection.

sketchwick

[A Neo Inside]

No ploy's and my ISP had some problems and I couldn't get back until now.

[sketchwick]

ANI: why shouldn't I listen to you? Because I'm Corleone, silly.

sketchwick

[makemeok]

bah! i knew it! (well, some of the time...)

and congrats to Orbiting for finding the last Capone, btw.

[A Neo Inside]

why didn't you come out? This game could still be going.

*runs away before he can be lynched, disappears never to be seen again*

[makemeok]

if we'd lynched SK, and then i killed sketchwick and he killed a townie, i would've won... right? very slim chance of winning, but still a chance.

[sketchwick]

Wow, good job, makemeok, we didn't suspect you. And yes, you were right not to have come out, if it had been the right move to claim to be the last Capone, I would have beat you to it.

As long as you have a chance to win you can't give up. But why oh why did no one think Corsato finding SK innocent meant she had to be GF. From orbiting and ANI's point of view it is a 50/50 shot whether she is the last townie or the GF...seemed like a good reason to lynch her. Lynching the GF being the towns best chance to win...

sketchwick

[Neo]

Why? Because I never check that first post and crossed this game w/ 45 and thought your GF was already dead

I wouldn't have lynched the last Capone. Shoulda come out.

[makemeok]

um.. because i honestly thought SK was a townie. and i did have it in my mind, but couldn't bring myself to believe it. i dunno. like i said, despite SK's suspicious behavior, she was also doing great acting dumb (and i honestly, really hope she doesn't take that the wrong way ).

[Neo]

I don't understand her unvoting me though...I know makemeok would have gone with it, probably Orbiting, and without a doubt Sketch. So why?

[makemeok]

uh.. you wouldn't have lynched me, but they would've killed me the next night.

[makemeok]

no, at the time, i wouldn't have gone with it... i thought Orbiting was more likely to be GF, of the two of you, and i had to get the GF.

[Neo]

Well that still leaves Orbiting.....At worst sketch and SK could have stayed with me and I would have been lynched with 2 votes

[sketchwick]

Ah, the "SK acting dumb" debate. This is interesting since Neo has wondered on mafiascum why I point out her age all the time. EARLY in the game she asked is "don" and godfather the same thing? I couldn't believe it. It seemed like an obvious attempt at reverse psychology. Then I got to talk to her on YM one NM5 night and I learned she was 16. Heck, when I was 16 I'm not sure I knew that the term "don" was mafia related. I even came up with a plan for her to post in this game about talking to her gym teacher about this game. My goal was for everyone playing this game to realize she wasn't actually being suspiscious, she was just inexperienced, in life and mafia. Luckily it all worked out for us Corleones.

sketchwick

[Neo]

*shrugs*

I really didn't read the thread to closely. I just skimmed and looked for things that stuck out..All I really paid attention to is the stuff before I died the first time (why was I killed that time) and the stuff after I came back.

[sketchwick]

Oh yeah, that was great that it lead you to mentat. We actually killed you because zealot pegged you as an instictual player, and if we got rid of those and just behaved logically we'd be fine.

sketchwick

[Zealot]

Wow. Good job Corleones! I thought we'd have a tougher time of this day. I must apologize though, we should have had a 50-50 chance of getting the last Capone the night I died, but I blew it. I realized all of a sudden that the fact that Damelon had posted fake cop info actually gave us a lot of info to work with. We knew he wasn't the cop because he listed SK as guilty and we knew she should show up innocent. That night we killed HorseRiderMS because I suspected she was the cop, and the Capones killed Damelon. At first it puzzled me, but then I realized that they were cop-hunting too, and they didn't know Damelon wasn't the cop! This told us that none of the info given by Damelon contradicted what the Capones knew. Damelon had listed 2 innocents and 2 mafia. Both of the ones he claimed were mafia were in our family. That meant that the two innocents Damelon posted couldn't be Capones, otherwise they would have known he wasn't the cop. This helped considerably because it gave our family valuable info, but gave it to no one else in the game. Unfortunately, I, being an idiot, did not check Damelon's post. I thought he had listed ANI and Corsato as his innocents, and I recommended to sketch and SK that we kill mikegoo. Had I checked, we wouldn't have gone after mikegoo. I firmly believed Neo was town, so we would have gone after either Orbiting or makemeok. Luckily that mistake didn't hurt anyone but myself, so I guess I deserved it.

Excellent playing by makemeok, he stayed off my suspect list for a long time. Early on I suspected he was the cop and had found mathgrant guilty because he voted for him for several days in a row. We debated killing one of the two to see, but refrained. After mathgrant's lynch revealed him to be innocent, I thought that makemeok was likely a townie, and there was no way he could be the cop.

Mentat and planet_buzz played well too, and I never would have been so bold as to try and lynch Mentat that early had we not had the extra info that our night kill against him had failed.

[Zealot]

Ironically, HorseRiderMS did not investigate me. Neo, she said that she would have come out had she had any info, but most or all of the people she had investigated were dead. I will get the details of who she investigated and post them tomorrow.

[sketchwick]

Wow, zealot, that's awesome. I assumed it was obvious to EVERYONE that Damelon was posting fake info because it contradicted Corsato's info, which I thought was taken for being true. Cubestudent came out, pointed it out, I used it as another reason cube was mafia (he was bragging!) but I really did think cube was capone...asking for doc protection!

Again, GREAT game, zealot, I'll be happy to be on your side in the future.

sketchwick

[Zealot]

And of course, big thanks to OcularGold for getting himself named a mod just to run this game for us

[OcularGold]

With a majority, neo (townie) is lynched, leaving one townie, two Corleone, and one Capone.

congrats to saberkitty, sketchwick, and zealot for winning their first mafia game!

I would have set up a final night - with kill choices from the two mafia - so i could have a final story, even though the Corleones win anyways (I was also wondering who makemeok would have killed). but this all after the deadline sorta puts a damper on it. no big deal though.

I'm really glad you all have played and everything. I hope yall enjoyed it .



[This message has been edited by OcularGold (edited 05-31-2002 02:59 AM).]