Simpsons Mafia Part II (Part II)

[quercitron]

Yeah, let's get JDTAY to speak up in his defense. He can at least dig up his role email.

Vote: JDTAY

FOS: Soothsayer (your role seems too powerful, and it includes a common SK ability) and Logain (for all we know, Smithers is a Mafia traitor.)

I believe Corsato. The dog was out there.

[Internet Stranger]

Im like, Otto and stuff. Yea.

[sketchwick]

(dead Homer pops in to say) That isn't much of a banner, IS...and for the record, is that the first time you've threatened to get the banner ready when you were guilty?

sketchwick

[Mayor Quimby]

Dead men can't walk (nor talk).

[Mayor Quimby]

The Votes:

2 quercitron (JDTAY, Werebear)
2 JDTAY (Logain, quercitron)

[JDTAY]

What more can I tell you? I don't send choices. The only thing the email said that implied my role did anything at all was that I was keeping the bar open in case someone like Barney Gumble showed up.

[Werebear]

Hm. I believe Quercitron more than JDTAY, unfortunately. Anyone have better insights? Now it comes down to who's spinning yarns.

Unvote: Quercitron; Vote: JDTAY

Werebear

[quercitron]

Hmmm. I don't know what to think about JDTAY. There are two things that strike me as extremely suspicious:

1. Sooth's claimed abilities. Can't be killed at night + learns who attacks him? Either he's on the Town's side and he "overprotected" himself by lying (he's not dead yet) or he's not on the Town's side. I refer to Mafia 45 where he claimed "Guardian Angel," another role who couldn't be killed at night, and was lynched, revealing the Serial Killer. And guess what else...the current trend among mods is to give the SK (in this case Snake) immunity to one or more night hits, forcing the Town to dispose of him. As Sooth stands his role is too powerful, all he has to do is reveal himself and the Town can't lose him...

2. Logain, who claims Smithers. Smithers, in the show at least, works for Mr. Burns. This would suggest to me a Mafia Spy or Traitor role. Or maybe even an "Evil Townie," who knows nothing but whose goal is to see the Mafia win. I just don't see Smithers being a good guy or simple Townie.

That said, we have two scenarios:

1. Mafia goon and Snake need to be killed somehow.
2. Mafia goon, Snake, and Smithers need to be killed somehow.

More later...

[Logain]

quercitron, I was just about to post that Soothsayer is the only one I fully trust and that I'd follow his vote to show I'm a townie and wouldn't try to lynch an innocent. Now after reading your last post on the "Guardian Angel" thing and SKs with a one night protection, you got me thinking twice.

But.....(and I'm still thinking this over)....if you reread the night Sooth got hopitalized, ironically Snake was also in the hospital and killed Dr. Nick. However, it doesn't make sense that Sooth is Snake, since Snake ended up in the hospital with a bullet wound and he was attacked by aliens. More likely, Snake just chose Dr.Nick as his target and Mayor Quimby made the story sound nice. Also, Sooth said he'd survive the night and know his attacker. He was attacked by aliens and we just happened to lynch Macros (an alien) the next day. Sooth would have been taking a big risk to say he'd know his attacker if he came out of the hospital and couldn't finger anyone. So either by coincidence Sooth was the luckiest SOB in the world for us lynching Macros and sealing his alibi or he was telling the truth.

So I guess I'm saying I still trust Sooth is Apu. The problem is that besides JDTAY, there is no one I'm any more suspicious of over anyone else

[JDTAY]

Bah, Moe appears in more episodes than Lovejoy, dog, and Willy combined.

[Corsato]

Right now I'm very tempted to vote JDTay, because his claim seems the weakest of all.
But since he's got three votes already, I'll wait to see if he wants to say something in his defense.

[Werebear]

I'm so confused. I don't know who to point to! Here's MY recap.

Corsato - Claimed snowball, and to have mysterious powers that have never shown.
Diplomat - Claimed Krusty the Clown. Survived a lynch, no explanations. Not a random survive.
JDTAY - Claimed Moe. Says he was supposed to hang around a bar.
Logain - Claimed Smithers - no idea of his role, he hasn't said anything that he can do. Possibly evil.
quercitron - claimed Reverend - paranoid investigator. Useless.
Soothsayer - Claimed Apu - survived an alien attack, says he videotaped Macros but couldn't say so.
Werebear - Claimed Groundkeeper Willy - can recognize certain town members as townies, to protect them. Don't know if any recognizable members are left.

So this is the complete lineup. What a crew. Among these 7 people are Snake and at least one mafia. What do you think? Lynch Smithers and hope?

Werebear

[JDTAY]

unvote: quercitron
vote: Werebear

That's all I have to say in my defense. Go on and lynch me.

[Werebear]

ROFL, a wee tad late for an OMGUS. 'sides, I'm thinking we should get Smithers.

Werebear

The GL is ***ALIVE***!

[Logain]

Well unlike Snowball (Corsato's claim) I have no special powers. I can't cough up furballs to distract Snake from killing people or something.

I am an ordinary townie. If you want me to be specific, my role is that I worked for Mr.Burns, but when he affiliated with the mafia (background to start of game), I left him because I didn't agree with his tactics. I know that something could've happened to my character based on certain events, but what that was I don't know and I'm assuming I won't find out until the end because, once again, I assume it had to do with Mr.Burns being alive and maybe doing a nightly search for me. So maybe I could have turned traitor if he lived, *shrug*, but I'm just speculating. I'm hoping that you'll just trust me. Think about it this way, there are only two kills a night. Snake and the last mafia Louie. If I was an SK there would have been mysterious kills. If I was just a bad townie, then I'd be voting to bandwagon an innocent.

Think about this also, there are seven of us. Four needed to lynch. If 3 of us (and not just 2) were evil, don't you think there would have been a bandwagon lynch of an innocent since only 1 out of four people would have to go along with us?

When I came out with my character, if I was an evil Smithers, don't you think I would've chosen someone out of the multitude of Simpson characters to pretend to be? I mean, the dog was here, lol, you would have been forced to believe anyone else could've been too.

Obviously not including myself, here's my list of who I trust->distrust in order.

Soothsayer (Mayor's stories seem to confirm it)
Werebear (description fits well with TV show and normal mafia character)
Diplomat (definitely not mafia, but would Snake have a 1 time no lynch)
quercitron (should get the Simpson's BS award if his story is made up)
Corsato (could have gotten lucky that Santa's Little Helper was here too)
JDTAY (Moe is a main character but ability sounds shady)

[Werebear]

This is going to get ugly, isn't it. Actually, I believe Corsato. If he was mafia or SK, just to claim Snowbell is tough enough, but it would take a lot of guts (or something else) to make a call out for a character that probably didn't exist, like he called out for SLH to show himself. Or did he? Or was it us? Either way, falsely claiming to be one of a pair when you don't know the other exists (or if both exist!) is stretching probability. Well, my vote *IS* on JD, I guess I'll keep it there. Did that make any sense? Anyone have any tylenol? *grin*

Werebear

[Werebear]

Oh, and Handsome Dan? You'd ***BETTER*** have a complete list of characters and special abilities ready for when this is over. Or else... um... or else you won't. And I'll whine. Lots.

Werebear

[Werebear]

The votes :

3 JDTAY (Logain, quercitron, Werebear)
1 Werebear (JDTAY)

Diplomat? Soothsayer? Corsato? Do you think we're wrong to vote JD? If yes, then SAY SO! If not, then VOTE! Please! Actually, have we heard from Diplomat since his non-lynch?

Werebear

[Corsato]

JDTay's lynch didn't convince me at all.
Vote: JDTay

[Soothsayer]

OK - my vote goes towards JDTAY but I am still skeptical of snowball and smithers

vote: JDTAY

[Diplomat]

JDTAY said:

[quercitron]

Time to vote for yourself to make it unanimous, JD.

[JDTAY]

Bah. Retards. Voting for me after majority is hit. Can you say V-E-N-D-E-T-T-A?

[Mayor Quimby]

So be it.

JDTAY is lead to the catapult sight. He hangs his head and fingers somethign under his coat. As he reaches the loading dish the executioner asks if he has any last words.

"No, but my friend does!" and in a flash he whips out and cocks a shotgun, pointing it straight at the executioner's head.

"I ain't no mafia, you can't prove anything! They weren't my pandas! THe whales were missing when I got there!"

The crowd rushes at him and disarm him, forcing him to back into the loading dish of the catapult. The executioner pulls a lever, and JDTAY is sent soaring into the distance. The town then decides to go to Moe's Tavern for some after-lynching booze.

But the bar is shut down, barren of any customers or its owner. In the back room they find that Moe was in fact housing whales and smuggling panda bears recently. Moe Szyslak obviously wasn't Springfield's most law-abiding citizen, but he certainly wasn't mafia.

JDTAY, Moe Szyslak, is dead. It is NIGHT, please send chocies. The deadline is Wednesday 11:59pm GL Time. If you do not make a choice it will be made for you.

[JDTAY]

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[This message has been edited by JDTAY (edited 07-29-2002 06:38 PM).]

[Werebear]

*sigh* At least he didn't say "I told you so". Oh, wait, never mind, he did.

Werebear

[Corsato]

lol @ werebear

[Werebear]

BUMP! I can't take the stress any more!! AAAAAAAHHHHH!

Werebear

[Logain]

What is taking night so long?

*as Homer stands outside a microwave waiting for his popcorn..."A minute!!! Isn't there anything faster than a microwave?"

[Werebear]

rofl, I've found myself pacing in front of the microwave. Normally when I'm heating a bottle of formula while holding a crying baby. On a similar note, there was a Calvin and Hobbes - the dad is busy talking about how fast life moves, the last panel Calvin's looking at a microwave dinner and saying, "SIX MINUTES to cook this? Who has that kind of time?"

Werebear

[Mayor Quimby]

Diplomat was walking home last night from his local TV show and happened upon Snake. Diplomat mistakened him for a fellow comedian, specifically, a fellow comedian whose act he had stolen. He tried to explain that his own Seven Words You Can’t Say On Television act was completely different from his compatriot’s, but ended up trying to bribe him with ten grand. At this Snake’s ears perked up.

Krusty the Klown was found dead this mornign. Ten grand was missing from his body, along with the money that was suppposed to buy him a new house (to replace the old one, which was dirty). The fact that Diplomat was a klown might explain why the town was reluctant to follow through with his lynching...

In other news, the mafia apparently failed to kill last night.

The Dead:

Diplomat (Krusty the Klown, town, killed by Snake)

It is Day, 3 VOTES TO LYNCH, No Deadline.

As always, I am here to provide you with answers to your questions, if you have any.

[Diplomat]

Bah. I knew it. I know who you are, Snake.

[Corsato]

Anyone found out anything ??

Corsato - Claimed snowball - No powers
Soothsayer - Claimed Apu - Can videotape his attackers.
Werebear - Claimed Groundkeeper Willy - can recognize certain town members as townies
Logain - Claimed Smithers - No powers
Quercitron - claimed Reverend - paranoid investigator

This is my list, from most likely innocent, to most likely evil. I believe that Soothsayer is innocent, just as me. It would have been a dangerous gambit to play. Werebear seems fine too, don't know why, it's just a hunch maybe.
Logain's claim makes me feel uncomfortable. I just don't buy the whole "I was a bad guy, actually I'm still bad, but I'm not maf" story. Once a thief always a thief...
Quercitron claimed to be some sort of paranoid investigator, which is very nice, because now he doesn't have to come up with some useful investigations.

That's just my two cents. Be careful with voting, because there aren't not much votes needed for a lynch. (That's the reason I'm waiting with voting.)

[Werebear]

I checked out Logain - "You can't tell" I was hoping if he was innocent, I could find out. But apparently Willie doesn't have much to do with Smithers. I hate to say this, but I think we've all been keeping a known mafia alive. I Believe Corsato because of SLH, I believe Sooth because he survived the alien attack, kind of, though there are other explanations... Quercitron, I don't know, it's definitely possible. Smithers? I'm sorry, Logain, you're the bottom of the list. Nothing personal.

Vote: Logain/Smithers

This vote is not firm, if anyone else has more information, please please post it. Oh, and check out post 10 from the original thread. *laugh*

[Werebear]

Um, Mayor Quimby? Re: the opening post, SEVEN to lynch is a bit much when there's only five left, isn't it? *laugh*

Werebear

[Werebear]

You're right, you're right, Unvote: Logain until I hear what Sooth, Logain, and Querci have to say. Three is too few votes to play around.

Werebear

[Corsato]

I'm more then willing to follow a bandwagon on either Quercitron or Logain at the moment, but only after they've spoken. Of course new evidence could make me chance my vote.

[Logain]

Well I'm confused now. There are only five of us and two people are lying about their roles and besides being more suspicious of some people than others, I honestly don't know. When we lynched IS I thought we had a good idea on who the guilty were, but then I thought JDTAY was definitely evil too. *sigh*

Corsato, I can understand your distrust in my role. I think my role was a simple townie just to make it that more interesting in this type of voting situation. Just like how a dog (and hopefully a cat) are actual characters

But I'll keep saying it over and over, the last mafia will be the final member of Fat Tony's gang.

Now, onto the debate of who's guilty....

Corsato - I'm starting to believe you on this one more and more since every other Simpson family member was present and I doubt dumb luck that someone would lie about the role and have it also turn out that Santa's Little Helper is present to back up such an absurd tale.

Soothsayer - One of the first to claim a role, and a very well-known character too. So the risk of claiming a role someone else had would be high. His character description seems to match exactly what happened during the night in Mayor Quimby's story and also with what we know of the Simpson's too. I would say he can't be mafia, and the Mayor's recount of the night's events would also make me believe he's not Snake either.

Logain - Smithers is a major Simpson's character, and I think everyone believes my role, just not my motives. As I've said before, Fat Tony's gang should all be here, it only makes sense. And, if I was mafia also, that would make an imbalance between the aliens and mafia, plus that would make 3 out of 5 of us evil. A lynch would take minutes.

Werebear - Claimed Willy. A very believable character, and the description is not too far fetched since he did have that video-taping episode. But, he has also said he can identify certain townies, without saying what those limits are, and he just happens to not have found anyone as a townie.

quercitron - Claimed Reverend Lovejoy. Paranoid cop. This one's been bugging me the most. First, it seems to become an assumed anymore that we have a paranoid cop in a game, so claiming to be one would be accepted. quercitron is the last among us to claim a role, so he could easily choose one not conflicting with anyone. But in all Simpson's character shows, why would the reverend be able to investigate people?? I don't see that as being a valid ability for the reverend.

I plan to vote for quercitron, but I'll hold off as Corsato mentioned because the vote can go quickly to a lynch and wait for Sooth to give his input. I don't trust the Bear anymore.

[This message has been edited by Logain (edited 08-01-2002 08:53 AM).]

[Logain]

Well that post took way too long to write. Stupid work getting in the way of mafia , only Corsato had replied when I started writing.

[This message has been edited by Logain (edited 08-01-2002 08:51 AM).]

[Corsato]

Bah. I''m not really familiair with the simpson's characters, the only thing I know about them is the things I looked up.

Logain: I'm not saying I'm not believing that you don't have any powers, it's just the fact that your character is hard to place.