Mafia Chapter XLVIII (game over, mafia/vampires tie)

[Werebear]

Um, Mummy, how do you know the egyptologists? They have never mentioned you...

Werebear

[Dread Pirate Westley]

Step 1: I've already said I'm not doing that.
Step 2: Lynch whom you will.

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There are 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't.

[jadesmar]

DPW: nice sig..
*re-dies*

[Werebear]

Then if you're mafia, you'll die stupidly. And if you're town, you'll die stupidly.

Confirm Vote: DPW, the strangely bad at mafia all of a sudden

Werebear

[quercitron]

I lose my other power when all the Egyptologists die. I haven't been told I lost it yet. Therefore, there's at least one more Egyptologist out there. They're Masons, and no one's disputing Popa's claim. Therefore, it's him.

Q.E.D.

So now what? Do we go for Frankenstein's monster (the smoking gun?) Porro, you're the only one possibly doing the brute strength killing. If you get to choose to do it, make a case for it now. Given that you've been claiming you're just happily resurrected, it doesn't sound like you're on the Town's side to me. Or do we try to take out Drac/Godfather/Mafia by going for DPW or an unverified role? What's everyone else think?

q

[Werebear]

(patiently) querci, a few things.
First, how do we know you're a mummy,
Second, how do we know you're on the town's side, when you're casting curses on townies?
Third, why hasn't any Egyptologist said anything about you, Do they know you exist?
Fourth, what EXACTLY does the curse you cast entail?
Fifth, isn't the lifting a GOOD thing, if we're losing townies because of it?
Sixth, doesn't the mummy have extreme strength?

Werebear

[Werebear]

oh, and what "other power"?

Werebear

[Dread Pirate Westley]

Aha! Now I've got you! I've never been good at mafia!

I could say I'm innocent, but of course I'd say I'm innocent even if I weren't, so I'm saying nothing at all.

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There are 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary and those who can't count.

[quercitron]

(equally patiently)

1. You don't. I do. I know I'm innocent, and work from there. You have to judge.
2. You don't. If you believe I'm the Mummy, then you have to judge my role as well. I considered lying about my role because it's blurry, but I am definitely Town. I'm just a bit misguided. Think of me as a Troublemaker, except I'm not going to sit pretty and let the Dark Side win. I win if the Town wins, simple as that.
3. I don't know what the Egyptologists know. I was told they went to Egypt, woke me up, and I got pissed, placing a curse on them. From the weakness given to them by the curse I draw power.
4. Almost exactly what they said. There's a small chance that any time an innocent dies one of them will die. The chance increases as their group dwindles, as the full power of the curse remains within their number.
5. Yes, the lifting of the curse is good. The lynching of an innocent today just to remove it is bad. Right now we have to deal with it. If it make you feel any better, probability is on our side. There are a lot of bad guys out there, and even if we mess up it's still not a guaranteed Egyptologist death. Lastly, I like my extra power. I want at least one Egyptologist alive.
6. Probably. My extra power, however, is not a kill ability. Consider this: there had been no extreme strength kills until last night, when Frankenstein died. Frankenstein had already resurrected someone, and we're following horror paths pretty consistently. Thus, the resurrected guy is a monster, and has superhuman strength, and got pissed as soon as his master bit it.

Werebear, I really don't like this "shouldn't we lynch you anyway just to get rid of the curse" attitude. We know we have three killers left (monster, vamp, at least one Mafia.) If you think I'm lying, which I'm not, then vote for me. However, if I'm telling the truth we have way more important things to worry about than a curse which won't take effect at all if we lynch the right person. Lynching me would be equivalent to lynching the Wampa in the knife-edge Star Wars endgame; yes, from your standpoint I'm not completely trustworthy, but for the time being you need my vote and logic. And I stand by saying I'm firmly on the Town's side. You're smart. You should be able to figure this out. Hence, FOS. Not only that, but you voted to release a vamp yesterday. I wouldn't be surprised if you're Drac or the Godfather and get listed as a Townie during the day, and have become overconfident.

No, I'm not telling my extra ability. I've already hinted at it. It can't possibly help me to have everyone know about it, and it's not hurting anyone that I'm keeping it secret.

I've decided Porro must be the brute strength killer, but I want to try to lynch a Maf or Drac today. Maybe his kill was a one-time act of anger thing. If not, we can go after him tomorrow.

I want to vote DPW, but Werebear, you really are worrying me.

Everyone else, speak up...

q

[Popaboolie]

i will
Vote:DPW
He wont claim a role so we will find out when he is lynched.

[Quailman]

It's a given that Porro has turned evil. He is acting alone, and if we lynch him, he will not kill again. If DPW is the last of his killing group, then lynching him will remove that threat, and we will only suffer Porro's murder tonight. If DPW has a comrade, then lynching him wil not eliminate their threat, and there will still be two kills tonight. They both need to die, but I think killing Porro is slightly more prudent. If they are the two baddies, it will take two days. If there are three of them, it will take three (unless, of course, the monster nails the third tonight), and there will be two kills tonight if we don't lynch Porro first.

That said, I don't really think there are three of them remaining. I expect Popaboolie to suffer Crazycellist's fate tonight, and then the Mummy is our next worry. Does anyone really believe he is on our side? "I have special powers, but I won't reveal them to you and I only use them for good." He's not our priority yet - especially if that load of hooey turns out to be true.

Oh well, let's get on with this game.

vote: DPW

[Werebear]

Querci, I will say it one more time. There were not three kills last night. There were two.

Your argument is not compelling. The characters portrayed should be true to their history, and the history of the mummy is not that he is good, or tries to help the town in any way, shape, or form. He is an evil monster who goes about killing people, is he not? Quailman nailed it on the head, I think.

I was going to ask Popa to relay the original email, but you know what? It's time. I'm not having Popa killed tonight and have no-one confirm me. Most of you probably have guessed, I am the last Egyptologist mason. Popa, please confirm. When I was investigated, I came up as a "Businessman from Egypt" or somesuch.

Our original Email said that we are all Egyptologists, who have recently returned from Cairo. Unfortunately, we were cursed while on your trip... Each time the townsfolk lynch an innocent, there is a small chance that one of us (selected at random) will die the next night. So why did crazycellist die? Apparently one of the three we voted to kill was considered an innocent.

No mention of curse removal. No mention of who cursed us. No mention of "kill the mummy", no mention of "don't kill the mummy". Don't you think that's important? Please, fellow townies, consider this for tomorrow.

Finally - DPW? If you don't care about playing, why play? Are you playing just to screw things up? You check the threads, you post, but you seem to have apathy to what you're doing. In SWII, you had the right to vote for the light, or the dark side. But you throw your vote to whoever posts next, then you do some strange attempt to "bid out" your vote... looking for people to give you, not your character, you something? If that was humor, as most people treated it (including me), it wasn't that humorous. In this mafia, if you're town, and just being stupid, I'd think before I joined another.
confirm vote: DPW

Werebear

[Werebear]

Dread Pirate Westley - UNKNOWN
Ferris - Van Helsing, screws with vampires
Popaboolie - Egyptologist Mason
Porro - Patrolman, raised from dead by Frankenstien, possibly monster.
Quailman - Townie, self-proclaimed
quercitron II - The Mummy, probably monster. Claims secret powers.
Werebear - Egyptologist Mason

[Mark J Tilford]

DPW: 3 (Popaboolie, Quailman, Werebear)
silent: Porro

Tilforder

[This message has been edited by Mark J Tilford (edited 09-11-2002 09:45 AM).]

[Porro]

FOS Querci and Quail

I was resurected, yes.
However, the fact that I caught MikeAmok the night before last proves that I am, as I always was, a patrolman.

I don't know why the Q's are both ignoring the evidence that I'm a patrolman. They may even be working together, I don't know.

For the record I patroled jadesmar last night, but was not able to catch the killer.

[Werebear]

*painfully* Um, Porro? Telling us you were patrolling someone who got beaten to death last night, the same night your "creator" died isn't the greatest thing to admit... though I must admit, I do believe you. The only two questions I have - were you the unknowing cause of the death, and would you mind patrolling quercitron tonight? *laugh*

Werebear

[Quailman]

That's probably it, Werebear. It's a good thing Neo didn't get knocked off sooner. Porro just sends in his choice, and that person now dies, since Neo's death triggered the conversion. And the moderator (who started this game again?) could count on Dr. Frankenstein resurrecting a patrolman - someone who sends in a choice each night.

The more I think about it, the more I'm starting to think we should lynch Porro first. I don't want him 'protecting' me tonight.

[Werebear]

Hold your horses, Quailman. First of all, I think Porro 'protecting' Quercitron might kill two birds with one stone. If Querci's body is found mangled... then we have Porro stop sending in investigations, and we're one less murder at night, and one less killer (hopefully)

Problems - if Porro enjoys being a SK, and picks someone else... or if someone else mangles querci. The latter I wouldn't mind so much, but the former might lose us an alligator. Er, investigator. Some sort of gator.

Werebear

[Ferris]

Right, well, I'll provide the vote that sorts this out. *crosses fingers*

Vote: Dread Pirate Westley

[Mark J Tilford]

And with Ferris' vote, the town marches Dread Pirate Westley to the gallows. One pull of the lever, and yet another mafia falls to his death.

Dread Pirate Westley, mafia - lynched by the town

It is now night. Please send your moves. Deadline is 72 hours from now, but I'd appreciate getting them within 48 hours.

Living players are:
Ferris
Popaboolie
Porro
Quailman
quercitron
Werebear

[Werebear]

[sarcasm] Isn't it nice how easy he made it on us? [/sarcasm]

Werebear

[Mark J Tilford]

The town's number has fallen yet again.

Professor Abraham "Ferris" Van Helsing was gunned down last night. The Egyptologist Werebear was found with his neck broken, and all blood drained from his body.

dead:
Logain (Dr Seward) - killed by a Serial Murderer?
jeep (Mafia) - lynched by the townsfolk
LoopyDog (Egyptologist) - killed by the Mafia?
jesternl (Mafia) - killed by the Madman?
quercitron (Townsfolk) - killed by vampires?
sweetwater (Patrolman) - lynched
mith (Mina Murray) - killed by vampires?
The Cheshire Man (Dr Watson) - killed by the Mafia?
Soothsayer (Detective) - killed by the serial killer?
groza (Serial Killer) - lynched
Antrax (Sherlock Holmes) - killed by the Mafia and an Evil Doctor?
ralphmerridew (Egyptologist) - killed by vampires?
Zephyr (Townsfolk) - killed by the Madman?
Zealot (Detective) - lynched
L'layne (Jonathan Harker) - killed by Mafia and vampires?
Corsato (madman Renfield) - lynched
PuzzleProdigy (Patrol Cop) - killed by the Mafia and Vampires?
Mike_Amok (Mafia) - executed
Cadmium (vampire Lucy Westerna) - executed
IS / Tyenar (Dr. Henry Jekyll) - lynched
Neo (Dr. Frankenstein) - killed by the Mafia and Vampires?
jadesmar (Scotland Yard) - killed by a monster?
crazycellist (Egyptologist) - unknown cause
DPW (Mafia) - lynched
Ferris (Abraham van Helsing) - killed by Mafia
Werebear (Egyptologist) - killed by vampires?

alive:
Porro
Popaboolie
Quailman
Quercitron

There are four people alive, three votes are needed to lynch. No deadline at present.

[Quailman]

Whoa! And Werebear was on my list of suspects, right after Porro. What's going on here? We must kill the monster.

Vote: Porro

[Bear Skin Rug]

...did you think I was lying in my post that I was in the mason group? Well, I'm not in it any more. What a price to pay to be free of the curse!

Bear Skin Rug

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...So now you think you can walk all over me, huh?

[papaboolie]

Popaboolie was eaten by ISE. So this is my new name.

I believe porro is a monster.

Vote:Porro

[quercitron]

Vote: Porro.

And that's a lynching, folks.

[Mark J Tilford]

And so the town orders Porro to his death. Just before the executioner pulls the lever, somebody hears Porro mutter "Morons" under his breath.

Porro, Scotland Yard / Frankenstein's Monster has been lynched.

It is night, please send your choices. Deadline is in 3 days.

[Bear Skin Rug]

Oh, the humanity. Hate to say it, but the mafia made a good choice by killing off Werebear instead of Popaboolie. Porro wasn't my first choice for who to hang.

Bear Skin Rug

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...So now you think you can walk all over me, huh?

[Mark J Tilford]

And soon after, I awoke to a bright morning, as did the other three people.

No deaths.

The Living:
Popaboolie
Quailman
Quercitron

It is day, 2 votes to lynch.

[Cadmium]

::can't resist following this closely since this is the part where it's getting interesting::

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F U cn rd dis U mst uz Unix.

[Quailman]

No deaths, but the game goes on. That can only mean that there remains a threat to the town. It's got to be the mummy. I have no powers, and as far as I know, Popaboolie is an Egyptologist. One of your fellow Egyptologists lost his life mysteriously so that this aboomination might live. At least that's all I can figure. If the story told a couple days ago is true, then the mummy is probably waiting for the death of the last Egyptologist to reveal it's true evil self, just as Porro did when his creator died.

vote: Quercitron

[Bear Skin Rug]

**follows just as closely, keeps paws over mouth**

[quercitron]

I don't think so.

If you look at the death sequences, there was a Mafia kill thenight before last, as well as a vampire kill. There is at least one Mafia still alive, probably the Godfather, and at least one vampire, probably Count Dracula.

I think they targeted each other last night, and neither died because they are both immune to night kills.

Obviously if one of them is lynched today, the other wins by killing the last Egyptologist. Popa, consider this. You know you're innocent. If either Quailman or I dies you (and the Town) will automatically lose.

Quailman, it seems neither one of us can kill the other. I don't want you to win, and I don't want the Town to win, so I'll propose a draw. Popa is smart enough not to lynch me, as it means he automatically loses. Quailman, you know how to go about offering a draw. I await your response.

[Quailman]

What? You're suggesting that I am a Mafia? But one of the cops investigated me and found me innocent. You can't be serious! A draw? I don't understand when you say I know how to go about offering a draw.

[quercitron]

By the way, here's the quote:

Originally posted by Mod:

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Professor Abraham "Ferris" Van Helsing was gunned down last night. The Egyptologist Werebear was found with his neck broken, and all blood drained from his body.

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Van Helsing - killed by the Mafia?
Egyptologist - killed by vampires and possibly monster (neck broken)

Then we lynched the Monster. Notice that there must then remain at least one Mafia (and we haven't seen a Godfather) and at least one vamp, and Van Helsing's role made reference to Count Dracula.

Once again, Popaboolie, you have no chance if either one of us dies.

[Quailman]

What? You're suggesting that I am a Mafia? But one of the cops investigated me and found me innocent. You can't be serious! A draw? I don't understand when you say I know how to go about offering a draw.

[quercitron]

By the way, here's the quote:

Originally posted by Mod:

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Professor Abraham "Ferris" Van Helsing was gunned down last night. The Egyptologist Werebear was found with his neck broken, and all blood drained from his body.

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Van Helsing - killed by the Mafia?
Egyptologist - killed by vampires and possibly monster (neck broken)

Then we lynched the Monster. Notice that there must then remain at least one Mafia (and we haven't seen a Godfather) and at least one vamp, and Van Helsing's role made reference to Count Dracula.

Once again, Popaboolie, you have no chance if either one of us dies.

[Quailman]

Oh. I forgot this:

Unvote: Quercitron; vote: popaboolie

[quercitron]

Read my lips, Quailman.

God-fath-er.

[quercitron]

Vote: Popaboolie

Draw agreed.