Newbie Mafia 7 - The game - TOWN wins

[Dragon Phoenix]

vote update (6 to lynch)

Soothsayer 3 (Faeriefire, Garm, Xer0x)
Xer0x 2 (Madmax, Soothsayer)
Duphrates 1 (Peekay)
Tanstaafl 1 (ML)

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[TANSTAAFL]

OK, since I got a vote for not posting enough, this is just to let you all know that i am still here. I had a long weekend (veterans day), but now I am back at work and able to catch up. I will withhold my vote for now, I want to reread the thread and see if anything suspicious appears.

[Beartalon]

Duphrates hasn't posted in three days; I wonder where he is?

[Beartalon]

Vote: Duphrates - mostly for silence, although Remeberance Day might have been a holiday for him.

[TANSTAAFL]

Well, Sooth, you are halfway to being lynched. Do you have any kind of defense to offer? Or would you like to tell us your role?

[Sparticus]

becomes very interested in the conversations of this game and pays close attention

Oh, and Sooth, I think I'll take a hot dog.

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I am still Sparticus, no matter what you say.

[ML]

At least he used the short version of his sig.

[A Fire Inside]

Vote: Xerox

DP: unbolded so as not to confuse me later. Dead people don't vote.



[This message has been edited by Dragon Phoenix (edited 11-13-2002 01:24 AM).]

[Beartalon]

A Fire Inside: You're dead and Dead Men Can't Jump (or Vote in Mafia). Check reply #88.

[Duphrates]

I'm having trouble connecting to U.S websites at work, I'm sorry if the disappearing act caused you any dismay, fears or even suspicions, but I too have some theories*Takes Peter Falk pose*My first FOS goes to 1) BEARTALON - highly suspicious goings on, I thought, with the suicide vote; bluff, double bluff, I don't know, but either way I can't understand the logic. I am thinking, for the time being at least, that you were just spitting your dummy out of the pram. 2) TANSTAAFL, GARM, FIRE INSIDE and FAERIEFIRE- as my Mother says - "It's always the quiet ones". 3) DARK/SOOTHSAYER, I'm wondering why DP had to have a replacement for you/the other, rather than drop you out of the game?, but with that way of thinking, you could also be a Cop or Doctor. You were also a bit quick onto Beartalon's case of, shall we say " verbose 'weakness' ". You now seem to be countering anyone who votes aganist you. Despite this, fuelled with my fuzzy logic and gut feeling, I really don't think that you are Mafia, so I'm sorry (vote) : FIRE INSIDE, but your only interjection of " Vote : Xerox " is enough for me to swing you by the nearest lampost.

DP: unbolded the vote for the dead player


[This message has been edited by Dragon Phoenix (edited 11-13-2002 01:25 AM).]

[Duphrates]

PS - Beartalon, why, if you live in Sicily, would you go to a Hot-Dog stall and pay in Canadian Dollars? C'mon get into the role. Damn amateurs. I've done Shakespeare don't you know?

[GARM]

Who you calling quiet Duphrates!? I have posted as many times as you.

Are you trying to mislead the town by putting doubt in the towns mind? Sounds like a scum bag thing to do!

FOS: Duphrates for lying and trying to cast aspersion on others.

[ML]

To be sure, A Fire Inside is dead. We lynched him yesterday. His vote doesn't count, and Duphrates' vote for him also doesn't count. (I'd hate to see a bandwagen wasted on a dead guy.) (DP, please correct me if I have misinterpreted anything here)

GARM has posted 6 times, Duphrates 12 (since the game started). Since the 2nd day has started: GARM has 4 posts, and Duphrates has 3. By itself that's hardly suspicious on anyone's part.

But, I would still like to Unvote: TANSTAAFL and Vote: GARM. That last post is suspiciously defensive, especially when Duphrates listed GARM as one of six people to be suspicious of. (He was already on my FOS list anyway.)

And to update my FOS list:
FOS: BearTalon (from previous),
FOS: TANSTAAFL (still suspicious)

[Beartalon]

ML, all I can say about my behavious is trying to learn how to play the game. The voting for myself was stupid and now makes me look wishy-washy, but at that time, there wasn't a lot being said on day 2. It provoked discussion.

Anyone else notice the three currently voting for Sooth also voted for A Fire Inside?

[Beartalon]

Actually, my last post should have been directed at Duphrates, not ML.

To ML, Yes, I know. I acknowledge the FOS on me, but I don't know what else to say that I haven't already said in my defense.

[Beartalon]

Duphrates, at least the vendor cart I have is a PIZZA cart, which is much closer to anything Italian than rival hot dogs

[Faeriefire]

Beartalon - Many people voted for A Fire Inside. If you were voting for Sooth rather than me, I could say the same thing.

[Werebear]

Duphrates - all roles should be replaced if the player drops out or takes an extended leave. Any mod who only replaces cop and doc roles is seriously lacking in mod skills. I think the reason would be obvious... but also, any side losing players makes the target range smaller for the other side.

Werebear

[xer0x]

unvote: sooth until then.

fos: sooth & beartalon

sooth -- for trying to cast suspicion on beartalon
beartalon -- for sounding VERY desperate to clear it by casting suspicion on others

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The infliction of cruelty with a good conscience is a delight to moralists. That is why they invented Hell.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Werebear is right. I will replace non-players, whether they are townies or not.

To all: please follow the game sufficiently close to notice whether you are dead or not. Thank you.

Oh, and I think it is time to introduce a deadline for this day (I hat long drawn-out mafia games). Deadline for this day is Friday 2 PM GL time.

[Duphrates]

Ooops
unvote A Fire Inside

[Dragon Phoenix]

vote update (6 to lynch, 3 to lynch at deadline Friday 2 PM)

Soothsayer 2 (Faeriefire, Garm)
Xer0x 2 (Madmax, Soothsayer)
Duphrates 2 (Peekay, Beartalon)
Garm 1 (ML)

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[Beartalon]

[Soothsayer]

Is anyone else suspicious about those players who haven't got a current vote, namely:
Xer0x
Tanstaafl
Duphrates

There is also a lot of wild accusations flying around with people votying for others because they are "cast aspersion on others". LOL - that's the idea!

Regardless these are the people who i think are innocent:
Garm
beartalon
and of course me!

People who are suspicious:
Xer0x
Tanstaafl
Duphrates

Until I have sufficient reason to change my vote will stay with Xer0x.

[Duphrates]

*I haven't made a vote because Fire Inside became the voting dead.*
Well I don't see any point in waiting to the last minute, so vote GARM.Suspicions further raised since his/her last post.

[Soothsayer]

Duphrates - what are your suspicions against Garm. It looks purely like this is a revenge vote for his FOS. Considering I think Garm is innocent and you are on my list of suspects i will change my vote to you

vote: Duphrates

[Duphrates]

Soothsayer - My suspicions lie with nearly everyone at the moment, but GARM's quick snappy response to my FOS has only heightened it. It's very easy to call someone a liar, but s/he didn't explain why.

BTW - My FOS hasn't really changed since yesterday, but you seem to trying to deflect a lot of flak at the moment.

LOL - This game is mad

[Werebear]

[TANSTAAFL]

So I'm suspicious for not casting a vote?? I checked in to let everyone know I am still here (just away on weekends) and was going to look over the thread before making any decisions.

Since Sooth already had 3 of the 6 votes needed for a lynch, I did not want to vote for him without giving him a chance to defend himself. I do not want to lynch another townie.

However, if you want a vote, I'll vote: xer0x because the two people voting for him so far did not vote for A fire inside yesterday.

So now my next question:

xer0x: Do you have a defense to give since you are now halfway to being lynched?

[TANSTAAFL]

oops... i missed that Sooth changed his vote.... but my vote still stands.

[Dragon Phoenix]

vote update (6 to lynch, 3 to lynch at deadline Friday 2 PM)

Duphrates 3 (Peekay, Beartalon, Soothsayer)
Soothsayer 2 (Faeriefire, Garm)
Xer0x 2 (Madmax, Tanstaafl)
Garm 1 (ML, Degenerate)

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[Soothsayer]

Lets hear arguements from both:
Duphrates and Xer0x. Both of whom are on my "highly suspicious" list. I am happy to switch my vote to whoever gives the worst reason as to why they should live

[Duphrates]

No, let's not. What about hearing a reason not to vote for you, Mister Butter-wouldn't-melt. So far, all you've done is bang on about who you think is highly suspicious, but with no reason (except Beartalon - because he posted too many times!!). Your also highly protective of GARM, why is that? Is there something you two should be telling us? The reason why you've voted for me is

[Dragon Phoenix]

Well, I had hoped that Dark would show up after a few days, but he has not done so. That is a recurrent problem in newbie games, and one of the reasons why we have them in the first place. On the other hand, we have had experienced players join newbie games before.

I picked Sooth, because he was the first to offer his services as a replacement in the sign-up thread.

[Werebear]

I volunteer for next replacement. *Cackle*

[Soothsayer]

I am playing this game on the understanding that should Dark show up I will leave immediately.

One of the problems with some mafia games is inactivity or absence by some players - I offered to be a replacement to keep the game going. Should another newbie wish to take my place I will happily leave.

[Beartalon]

Why Soothsayer was here was given to us in the beginning. I've followed Sooth's progress through a different game he's played in, and his tactic at the very beginning is the same as he's used here. This tells me nothing except that this is his playing style. You have to admit that it started discussion, whether or not he's bluffing or telling the truth. Experience counts, but so does logic. I think we newbies will begin to see some sense after today's lynch.

Everyone is claiming suspicions. Welcome to Mafia! So far this day I've had 2 votes, Garm's had 2, Xerox would have had 3 if Soothsayer hadn't changed, and now both Duphrates and Soothsayer both have 3 because Duphrates changed.

The way it looks right now, since Duphrates and Soothsayer are both voting for each other, they are either two confused townies and we're on our way to another townie lynch (thank you very much) OR one of them is Mafia, but not both since voting for each other would waste votes.

Dragon Phoenix, post #150 is incorrect. Garm had two votes, Degenerate should be Duphrates, but now he's changed his vote to Soothsayer.

[Soothsayer]

sigh - it looks as though this game will follow the time honoured tradition of killing the cop early on in the game.

In case you haven't picked up on my hints....

I'm a cop - don't lynch me.

Seeing as I have just put a sign over my head saying "kill me mafia please" - I plead to the doc to protect me tonight.

It is always a dilemma in mafia games to know when the cop shoudl come out. Seeing as I am close to a lynching the time is appropriate now.

On night 1 i discovered that Termital was innocent, on night 2 I found out that Garm was innocent. Hence why I was trying to get you to stop voting for him. With 3 mafia still alive it is essential that we do not kill unnecessarily.

My votes for xerox and Duphrates was based up on their posts and not from any investigations.

There you go - I'm a cop - I am pleading with you not to lynch me and for the doc to protect me tonight.

[Duphrates]

confirm SOOTHSAYER

Why come out so quickly? there's still a day till the deadline. You may not have been lynched.

[Dragon Phoenix]

vote update (6 to lynch, 3 to lynch at deadline Friday 2 PM)

Duphrates 3 (Peekay, Beartalon, Soothsayer) /*first on 3/
Soothsayer 3 (Faeriefire, Garm, Duphrates)
Xer0x 2 (Madmax, Tanstaafl)
Garm 1 (ML)

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thanks BT