Newbie Mafia 7 - The game - TOWN wins

[Soothsayer]

Free hotdogs to all - thanks for letting me play for a while - good luck to the town and cyanide-filled hotdogs to the mafia

[Werebear]

FREE LUNCH! TISATAAFL! Mustard, Ketchup, and onions, please... hold the cyanide, gives me gas something fierce.

Werebear

[Faeriefire]

Peekay, I can't prove my innocence any more than you could.
Unvote:Peekay
~confused~
Sorry, I thought you and GARM were the same person. Silly me.

[TANSTAAFL]

Ok, I am going to vote: Faeriefire I find you more suspicious than anyone else right now.

First you complain about Garm voting for you as an OMGUS type of vote. But in the same post you vote for Peekay.

Then you unvote Peekay saying that you thought that Peekay and Garm were the same person. But Sooth/Vegtable claimed to be the cop, he said that Garm was innocent. So were you trying to continue to vote for an innocent to prove Sooth is the cop (as in what you did yesterday)? Or was it an OMGUS vote which is exactly what you had just complained about?

Please explain.

[Faeriefire]

Don't know how I did it, but first I read Peekay's post FOSing me. The next post is GARM who voted for me. I saw these as two consecutive posts from the same person, so I reacted from that false information. Believe me or not, but it's true.

[Vegtable2001]

Indecisive here. I'll be fairly indecisive untill the weekend when i'll have time to read through everything and randomly accuse somone.

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Thats my opinion.... I probably don't care about yours

[Vegtable2001]

(In case you feel thats grounds to lynch me, i was joking)

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Thats my opinion.... I probably don't care about yours

[Beartalon]

Discussion:

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Duphrates 5 (Peekay, Beartalon, Soothsayer, Tanstaafl, Garm)
Garm 2 (ML, Faeriefire)
Xer0x 1 (Madmax)
Soothsayer 1 (Duphrates)

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Two Mafia, Doctor, Cop and four Townies are left. If I boldly assume that everyone voting for Duphrates was not Mafia, and Soothsayer (and now Vegtable2001) is the cop, that leaves xer0x, FaerieFire and MadMax as two Mafia and one townie.

If FaerieFire is the townie, then why would MadMax vote for xer0x as Mafia? And if he believed Sooth's claim as the cop that Garm was innocent, why vote for Garm? Is FaerieFile Mafia?

Peekay has been pointed at as suspicious. I suggest that he is not Mafia (my votes for him were first based on the random first vote, and then immediately as we waited for the second day to start and we still had very little information. If so, why didn't he change his vote as soon as Duphrates was pegged as possibly being lynched and try to lynch Soothsayer instead, thinking he was the cop? Peekay said in a previous post that he wasn't waffling on his vote once it was made, which would then be very strange if he was Mafia and knowing Duphrates as kin. I think he's innocent.

Over the game's days, Duphrates, a known Mafia, voted for me first, then Termital, Soothsayer, and points a FOS at TANSTAAFL, GARM, Fire Inside (Dead), and FaerieFire. He votes GARM, then Soothsayer again, and finally dies. Eliminate all the ones I currently think or know are townies, and we're left with TANSTAAFL and FaerieFire.

Add my first statement about the people voting for Duphrates, and that removes TANSTAAFL. So: Vote: FaerieFire

[Beartalon]

And I want so much to go back and edit my grammar mistakes in that last post. GRRRRRRRRR.

[xer0x]

Why would the mafia NOT vote Duphrates if he was approaching a lynch, just to make themselves less suspicious?

Sounds like a very stupid mafioso to me...

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The infliction of cruelty with a good conscience is a delight to moralists. That is why they invented Hell.

[Dragon Phoenix]

vote count update - five to lynch

Faeriefire 4 (Garm, TANSTAAFL, Peekay, Beartalon)

marker

[Dragon Phoenix]

On a side note: Madmax has mailed me that she cannot post because she forgot her password.

[Amb]

Just get her to post as MadMax2 or something until she remembers....

[xer0x]

Well? Will you defend yourself, or will you go to the grave?

If no reply is received from you by 8pm, 11-20-2002 GL time, and if no-one else has already done so, I shall nail that final nail into your coffin.

Thank you.

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The infliction of cruelty with a good conscience is a delight to moralists. That is why they invented Hell.

[Vegtable2001]

Still havent read through everything but i can understand beartalon's logic. [b] Vote Fairiefire [/b}

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Thats my opinion.... I probably don't care about yours

[Dragon Phoenix]

That makes five.

Faeriefire is dragged to the gallows, refusing to reply to the accusations. One more townie falling victim to the lynch-hungry mob.

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This townie however had a passport in the name of Mastroianni.

Great work, you got two mafia in a row. Too bad that there is still one out there...

Night falls, emails please. Deadline Friday 2PM.

[Antrax]

Just a note, I have emailed user #00002019 (aka MadMax) her password. Should've contacted me right away, user #00002019.
Antrax

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"If it comes down to a choice between being unloved and being vulnerable and sensitive and emotional, then you can just keep your love." -Victor Mancini, "Choke"

[Dragon Phoenix]

Day breaks

Although not for Garm, who has been shot in the back.....

Six players left, four to lynch a cop, doctor, townie ot last remaing scum.

ALIVE:

Xer0x
Tanstaafl
Madmax
Dark/Soothsayer/Vegtable2001
Peekay
Beartalon

DEAD:
A Fire Inside (townie, lynched)
Termital (townie, shot)
Duphrates (mafia, lynched)
ML (townie, shot)
Faerie Fire (mafia, lynched)
Garm (townie, shot)

[Peekay]

*A moment of silence for poor Garm*
Now then, way to go town, two in two days. Let's go for three. It is possible that mafia would vote for mafia to make themselves appear more innocent. But in a game with three mafia, I doubt anyone would do this two days in a row. Therefore, I think anyone that voted for both Duphrates and Faeriefire is probably innocent. That would be:
Myself
Beartalon
Vegtable2001
Tanstaafl
Garm
We know for sure Garm was innocent. That leaves Xer0x and Madmax. We know Madmax couldn't post yesterday (at least under her own name), so that doesn't give any posts to really analyze. But looking through Xer0x's posts from yesterday shows an interesting trend. His posts seem to be defending Faeriefire (I point you to replies 194 and 209), up to his non-vote for him (reply 213). I say non-vote because he threatened to, but didn't. Yes, it would have been the last vote, and he may have wanted to give him a chance to defend himself. But combined with his other posts, it seems very suspicious to me. Vegtable2001, did your investigations last night turn up the third mafia for sure, or find Xer0x to be innocent? (Yes, I 100% believe you are the cop now.)
Until I here evidence otherwise: vote: Xer0x.

[Vegtable2001]

Vote Xerox I inspected him last night and got him as mafia.

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Thats my opinion.... I probably don't care about yours

[xer0x]

Bah -- blame my suicidal teammates who leave me to defend them.

I don't think there's a point in putting up a defense now.

Goodbye world.

Vote: xer0x

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The infliction of cruelty with a good conscience is a delight to moralists. That is why they invented Hell.

[Werebear]

Bah, you were just a copier anyways. *Grin* WTG, town!

[TANSTAAFL]

And I'll make it official: vote: xer0x

[Dragon Phoenix]

And there he goes.....

Yes, indeed, the final mafia swings. Well done town! And an excellent choice by Doctor Tanstaafl the first might to protect Beartalon!

[ML's Ghost]

*cheers for Town*

[xer0x]

*cheers, glumly*

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The infliction of cruelty with a good conscience is a delight to moralists. That is why they invented Hell.

[Duphrates]

*Ghostly whoooh*

whoooh..was I s@%t or was I s@%t at that?....whooh

(Is Peekay psychic?)

[tffff]

Congratulations, town, and particularly Beartalon for an excellent piece of analysis in post 207.

[TANSTAAFL]

Hmmm, I'm going to go ahead and take credit for the win then , cause if I hadn't protected Beartalon the first night, he would never have been able to snag our last mafia for us (just kidding of course, way to go town!)

[Peekay]

w00t Town! (I told you I was innocent Beartalon. )

[This message has been edited by Peekay (edited 11-21-2002 11:59 AM).]

[Soothsayer]

Good work town - enjoyed being a brief part of your win

[MadMax]

My vote was for Xerox as well..........Sorry for poor Garm our last twnee to die. Well done one and all.

[Beartalon]

GO TOWN!

Heh. Not bad for someone that some townies thought was a Mafia, eh?

Thanks for the protection, TANSTAAFL.

Now I want to know, did the Mafia simply select at random for their murder victims or did they base it on who they thought was (going to be) a good player against them?

And to you xer0x, I was right the FIRST TIME I suspected you.

[Duphrates]

It was random for the first two( you and Termital )after that I don't know, I was out quicker than you can say Badabing.
What I want to know is - as soon as Sooth was outed as a cop, was he protected by the doc every night, or was it risked on someone else ,thinking being, the mafia wouldn't shoot him because he was probably protected?

[Beartalon]

*buys Duphrates a hot dog*

[TANSTAAFL]

I protected Beartalon night one, randomly. Then I protected him again on night two, because he was the only person that I knew was innocent. Then Sooth outed himself and I protected him the rest of the game.

[Faeriefire]

My congratulations to the town.
Were you guys good our were we just that bad?

[quercitron]

Heh. Same ending as Minvitational 1. I'm going to run a few more of these sometime and see what we get.

[Beartalon]

TANSTAAFL, my protector

FaerieFire, I'd like to believe we were good, but maybe just incredibly lucky. Perhaps more experienced Mafia can tell us.

I wonder how I'd make out if I ever get to play on the mafia's side.

[GARM]

Yeah go town!!!

I thought we were going to win on night 2.

I also thought the Mafia scum played very poorly but given that it was their first game that is ok. An example would be them killing ML on the second night when ML was under suspicion from a lot of players. That is why in one post I said it was strange.

All the best everyone in the rest of your games