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CrystyB
Misunderstood Guy



PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:59 pm    Post subject: 1081 Reply with quote

You claim you based your vote on probability. You didn't even wait for a defence, and decided by your judgement alone. Well i'm sorry but it was wrong. I don't care about probabilities, i care about the fact that i want to win this game. For that, i need the good side to stay alive! Your recklessness makes you maf, and our hesitancies makes me and DPW townie.

VOTE: Porro
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Dread Pirate Westley
Daedalian Member



PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 2:15 am    Post subject: 1082 Reply with quote

I hate being the decision maker when it comes down to three...I almost always guess wrong. Oh, well. Elayne wished me luck and said I'd need it, and knowing my luck, Tyenar was telling the truth and the other one of you will kill me anyway. It was a good game, but now it's time to end...Vote: Porro If I'm wrong, I won't lose any sleep over it.

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Porro
Cool as a cucumber



PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 8:25 am    Post subject: 1083 Reply with quote

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You didn't even wait for a defence


Why wait, my vote was not the casting vote?

You still haven't given any further defence anyway. Don't be duped by him DPW. I'm Aiel.
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mith
Pitbull of Truth



PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 9:03 am    Post subject: 1084 Reply with quote

I'll ask for confirms, since it is the last day.
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CrystyB
Misunderstood Guy



PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 1:37 pm    Post subject: 1085 Reply with quote

Confirm Porro - any innocent would WAIT before casting a vote since the baddies (maf) can then jump in and finish the day. I waited enough. You keep saying "i am aiel", so i won't lose any sleep over it too. Then i guess we won, DPW, huh?
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Porro
Cool as a cucumber



PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 8:15 pm    Post subject: 1086 Reply with quote

Still no defence of your role to add then CristyB?
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Porro
Cool as a cucumber



PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 8:34 pm    Post subject: 1087 Reply with quote

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our hesitancies makes me and DPW townie


That's bad logic. If anyhing, in hindsight, it makes DPW a townie. Since I voted for you, all you've done is cast aspersions on both DPW and myself in an attempt to divert attention.

If you've got any further defence against us voting for you, tell us now.

I voted for you because I know I'm not mafia, which leaves one or both of you. As explained previously, Once I rechecked the thread I was as close to certain as you can be in a mafia about DPW's innocence. Hence I voted for you, IMO with good reason, not hastily.

However, you seem determined to label me mafia because I was the first to vote. I was the first to vote because I appear to have been the first (only?) one to have rechecked the thread and put some effort into working out who was mafia!

Your diversionary tactics, ignoring substance, logic, and not least of all the thread, further convince me that you are mafia.

confirm vote: ChristyB
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Porro
Cool as a cucumber



PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 9:01 pm    Post subject: 1088 Reply with quote

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You keep saying "i am aiel",


Yes, and I've been saying it for a while. When there were still Aiels and ex-Aiels (Neoie) around to test me! Check the thread.

Quailman got killed by claiming to be an Aiel when he wasn't.

If I wasn't Aiel, it would have been far easier and safer to check a web site and make a weird roll up. Just like Lili did, and just like I'm convinced CristyB has!

Case for the defence rests now think about it DPW.
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Dread Pirate Westley
Daedalian Member



PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 2:20 am    Post subject: 1089 Reply with quote

End it already. Porro's lynched. I'm gonna run off and hide in a stedding for a while.

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CrystyB
Misunderstood Guy



PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 2:53 pm    Post subject: 1090 Reply with quote

I was just going to argue a little more, but TY dpw for ending this day. Come on mith, please! I want to know if i'm gonna go out with a BigBang or just a smaller one?
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mith
Pitbull of Truth



PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 3:27 pm    Post subject: 1091 Reply with quote

Alright then...

Porro is taken to be lynched. He doesn't like it at all. In fact, he goes a bit mad, pulls out a dagger, and begins waving it around.

"Hey, isn't that..."

Yes, Mat, that's the same dagger. However, Padan Fain has no time to use it, as, per the rules stated by the Creator, Fain is killed whether he likes it or not.

Zap. Or something.


"So, you were Mat after all..."

"Yeah. And you were the Green Man?"

CrystyB pulls off his annoying disguise to reveal...

A Myrddraal.

Mat doesn't react fast enough, and is killed by CrystyB's sword.


WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE MY TEAM WINS, PETE.

oh well. guess you get to rule the world for a bit. is it my turn to be the bad guy?

YES. HAVE FUN IN THE PRISON. IT'S NOT SO BAD, ONCE YOU GET USED TO THE SMELL.

that's ok. a few ages isn't long. and i'll win next time.

SUUURE YOU WILL.

And with that, Shai'tan goes off to take a shower. And make some prettier minions.

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I'll post details on all the roles when I can be bothered to find my spreadsheet. I'm disappointed the Serial Killer didn't win, though. Congrats, CB.

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ralphmerridew
Daedalian Member



PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 3:48 pm    Post subject: 1092 Reply with quote

Woohoo! Ishy's clan (VinnyQ / Elayne, AnnoyingPest / Specter / CrystyB, Zephyr, hey_herb, Quailman and myself) win!

And PP really was a Black Ajah.

[This message has been edited by ralphmerridew (edited 06-21-2002 11:51 AM).]
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Quailman
His Postmajesty



PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 3:56 pm    Post subject: 1093 Reply with quote

w00t! Yay, Ishy's team. Good work, CrystyB. Well done!
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CrystyB
Misunderstood Guy



PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 4:06 pm    Post subject: 1094 Reply with quote

WOOHOO!!! My last MafGame as a player and i win it!!! That is something... :-D

Thanks to my family, which consisted at first of Elayne (replaced by VinnyQ), Ishamael herself ; AnnoyingPest, (replaced by Specter, replaced by me), the second-in-command ; and Trollocs Zephyr, hey_herb, Ferris, ralphmerridew (one of which was replaced by Quailman, i can't remember which...). Oops, mith, did you intend to keep that info secret? [the roles and the componence of the families?]

Funny thing is i started a bandwagon away from Zephyr without knowing he was in my family AND therefore BAD!
And i truely wonder how did Purgation know about a black ajah existing in the game? What was his role?

(http://www.wotmania.com/images/rpg/myrddraal.jpg)

[This message has been edited by CrystyB (edited 06-23-2002 04:30 AM).]
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Porro
Cool as a cucumber



PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 4:26 pm    Post subject: 1095 Reply with quote

I knew CristyB was bad
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Elayne
*gets sappy with L'lanmal*



PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 4:34 pm    Post subject: 1096 Reply with quote

Heh. Interesting ending. A should-have-been-dead man won the game.

Lili ordered an attack on CrystyB (DP carrying it out) and he did not die. I bet you didn't intend this result when you played around with the rules(as I knew them) mid-game mith
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mith
Pitbull of Truth



PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 5:07 pm    Post subject: 1097 Reply with quote

Nah, I followed all my rules. I just forgot to account for a few things in my spreadsheet list.

I had several problems with the balance of this game at the beginning (I didn't want the channelers to be too dominant, mostly), and ended up compromising on a lot of things; I don't generally like basing things on probabilities, but I couldn't really get around it.

Anyway, quite entertaining, and the bad guys had several great attempts at faking a role. Hope you all enjoyed (other than the slowness ).
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mith
Pitbull of Truth



PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 5:34 pm    Post subject: 1098 Reply with quote

Roles:

Ishmael's clan - VinnyQ (Ishmael, replacing Elayne), CrystyB (Myrddraal, replacing Specter, replacing AnnoyingPest), Zephyr, hey_herb, Quailman, ralphmerridew

Lanfear's clan - Lilifreid (Lanfear), Dragon Phoenix (Myrddraal), mole, cubestudent, radwulf, mudster

These were the Mafia groups. The Trollocs were successful against everyone but the Channelers, Perrin, and Myrddraal. The Myrddraal had a 50% chance at killing a Channeler, Perrin, and a 75% chance against the opposing Myrddraal. The Forsaken were successful against everyone except Mat, and killed using Balefire.

Padan Fain - Porro

Serial Killer. Was successful against everyone but Channelers, and had a 50% against them.

Seanchan - sweetwater, JDTAY

This was the Cult. They were on the side of the Town, but had to have everyone good join them to win. They could either kill or recruit (they always chose to kill). Similar success to the Trollocs.

Children of the Light - Logain, Soothsayer, Antrax (Insane), Tyenar (Paranoid)

Basic Cops.

Ogier - Neo (replacing JediSoop), Diplomat, El Blobbo revived, quercitron

Basic Masons.

Aiel - Neo, The Cheshire Man, Macros

Could hide at night from any kill, but only on non-consecutive nights.

Aes Sedai(ish) - Zealot (Aviendha), Purgation (Elayne), Samadhi (Egwene), PuzzleProdigy (Black Ajah)

Each could use the Power to investigate a player. Whenever anyone used the Power, all other that used that half of the Power found out.

Nynaeve - ChienFou

Basic Doctor, could heal anything but Balefire, by channeling.

Min - Neo (replacing Alfie)

This was the role I liked least, and that's why I was so reluctant to replace Alfie. Each night, Min got to look at two player's aura, and found something out about them. While I could have done a lot with this, I wasn't creative enough, so it became pretty obvious from auras whether that player was good or not.

Perrin - art begotti

Sorta a bulletproof Vest role. Protected by wolves from most attacks. Only Channelers, Padan Fain, and Myrddraal (50%) would succeed.

Mat - Dread Pirate Westley

Sorta a bulletproof Vest role. Protected by fox-head medallion from channelling, and had a chance of surviving any other attack.

Male Channelers - Degenerate (Logain), Eykir (Rand)

Could investigate every night. In addition, could use the Power to kill (Balefire). However, after using the Power twice, they got random results (this is the only thing I changed after the game started, I think. Didn't think about it until Eykir started killing, and thought it would be fitting).

Overall, after running the game, there are a lot of things I think I would do differently. So maybe we'll have WOT Mafia V.2.0 eventually.
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ralphmerridew
Daedalian Member



PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 7:12 pm    Post subject: 1099 Reply with quote

It's too bad that we had so many changes right at the beginning. Maybe if Spectre hadn't replace AP, hey_herb wouldn't have attacked his own teammate first round.

mith forgot to mention that the bad guys were told PP's role at the beginning, and he learned the identities of the Forsakens. Any of us could talk with him at night. He couldn't reveal the identities of the Forsakens, but could reveal any other role, if he learned it.
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PuzzleProdigy
Minister of Penguins



PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2002 11:33 pm    Post subject: 1100 Reply with quote

*cheers*
I could communicate with Lanfear (lili) and Ishmael(elayne/vinny) at night, and I won if either clan did, along with using the Power to investigate.
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Dread Pirate Westley
Daedalian Member



PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2002 2:04 am    Post subject: 1101 Reply with quote

Originally posted by me:
Elayne wished me luck and said I'd need it, and knowing my luck, Tyenar was telling the truth and the other one of you will kill me anyway.
There you have it, right there. I always knew I had bad luck, but I didn't know it could chew up Mat's for lunch and keep right on going.

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Lilifreid
DANGER!



PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 9:52 pm    Post subject: 1102 Reply with quote

So I came pretty close to Perrin's actual role in my guess? Nifty.

Did people believe I was Perrin when I made it up?
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ralphmerridew
Daedalian Member



PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 10:11 pm    Post subject: 1103 Reply with quote

I was certain you were lying. Not that it mattered, since I'd been long since balefired.
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CrystyB
Misunderstood Guy



PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2002 2:00 pm    Post subject: 1104 Reply with quote

I certainly did not believe you 100% - actually that's why i attacked you!!!
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Soothsayer
*Sets Up Hotdog Stand*



PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2002 3:59 pm    Post subject: 1105 Reply with quote

really enjoyed the game -0 such a shame that i got balefired
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ralphmerridew
Daedalian Member



PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 12:42 am    Post subject: 1106 Reply with quote

You think that's bad? I'd gotten sidetracked with other things, and just as I was about to resume, I got an email saying I'd been balefired. And it was for inactivity! Bah at Eykir.
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Dread Pirate Westley
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 2:24 am    Post subject: 1107 Reply with quote

I didn't particularly either. I was fairly certain I was swimming in bad guys at that point, though and wasn't going to believe anyone.

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Antrax
ESL Student



PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 1:46 am    Post subject: 1108 Reply with quote

Hurray, the day is saved. Thank you, Jeff K.
Antrax

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"If it comes down to a choice between being unloved and being vulnerable and sensitive and emotional, then you can just keep your love." -Victor Mancini, "Choke"
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