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Mafia 50: The Salem Witch Trials [Cult Wins!]
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George Bishop
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:36 am    Post subject: 481 Reply with quote

Go town!
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mith
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:48 am    Post subject: 482 Reply with quote

I think Hiram Bishop was the only one not posting yesterday, I'm going to email the player, and then I'll replace (already have a replacement lined up).
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 1:15 am    Post subject: 483 Reply with quote

*~bump for choices~*
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 1:19 am    Post subject: 484 Reply with quote

Gonna have to set a deadline. Choices due by 5 pm tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 2:51 am    Post subject: 485 Reply with quote

Agh. I had a vote recorded wrong. There was a judge lynching as well.

John English (Cult of the Moon/Judge) - lynched by the Judges
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John English
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 10:49 am    Post subject: 486 Reply with quote

I'm glad your keeping up with the game .
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Zephyr
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2002 4:29 pm    Post subject: 487 Reply with quote

BUMP in the night
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mith
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2002 6:00 pm    Post subject: 488 Reply with quote

I'll update when I get home this afternoon, I think night has lasted long enough.
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mith
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2002 7:08 am    Post subject: 489 Reply with quote

Bah, had no time this afternoon.

No one died!

Vote!
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Ghost of Arthur Wilkins
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2002 2:37 pm    Post subject: 490 Reply with quote

I know who! I know who! It's... it's.... aaaaaaaarrgghhhhh.....

*soul gets thrown into mith's garbage can*
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Mary Black
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 12:36 am    Post subject: 491 Reply with quote

I hope all the witches are now dead (5 sounds right especially with the possession ability). That just leaves us with the Cult of the moon. Since only farmers can be converted or possessed Abigail cannot be cult.

My judge ability (yes I am a judge also) along with Ezra yesterday lynched John English so I am likely not cult even if you doubt that I am the preacher.

Which leaves the farmer masons and robert osborne. Since when a "mason" gets killed they are just farmers, I presume that they can be cultified.
However since I protected people from conversion top-down (Hiram Bishop, Sarah Bishop, Faith Bishop, George Bishop, ...), mathematically robert osborne has the greatest chance of being cult.

On the other hand this "masonness" bothers me and i wonder if the two active Bishops are already converted. If Hiram came out and verified the mason lodge i would feel a little better.

From my perspective, an ideal situation would be for abigail to have become the new judge so that the bishops can lynch robert osborne while abigail and I lynch a bishop (preferably George since he has the next highest probability of being cult).

I'd like input from the rest of you before I vote this round.

Crap. I just realized that Charles Smith the Produce shop owner was a Cult member. How can this be? I'll be emailing mith but if the shop owners can be converted then Abigail goes to the top of the list since I didn't bother protecting her from conversion.
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Mary Black
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 7:39 pm    Post subject: 492 Reply with quote

According to mith, the shopowner(s) are farmers with a special ability so are recruitable.

Vote : Abigail English

Abigail's recruitment may also explain why she hasn't gotten/given results from her shop the past several rounds.
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Abigail English
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 9:55 pm    Post subject: 493 Reply with quote

Abby here.

I know I'm not Cult, but I realize that I probably look the most suspicious of anyone left. I haven't been getting results because with so few players they'd be pretty much random; also, as I said when I claimed my role, witches are the ones who need animals, so it's unlikely I can detect Cult anyway. As a Townie, I'd like to survive the game, but having the Town win would be enough. I don't suspect Mary Black; the Preacher seems like a necessary, useful role, and it would have been very gutsy to claim it when she did. So that leaves either the Bishop-masons or Robert Osborne. I have a proposition. I am not a Judge; either some of the remaining Bishop-masons or Robert Osborne are Judges or Mary Black is the only Judge left. If we think it's best, then why not have the Judges lynch me and the Bishops and I lynch Robert Osborne? Or vice versa, I'll help lynch myself if we think it's best. Let's get rid of the Cult and win this sucker.

I would offer to reread the thread and look for voting block patterns and behaviour changes and such, except that everyone has been so inactive it wouldn't really help us. Let's hear from everyone else though!

Abby
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Faith Bishop
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 9:05 am    Post subject: 494 Reply with quote

I am inclined to agree with Mary Black. Depsite Abigail's defense I am not convinced about her role - it looks like all her allies are now dead or inactive.

vote: Abigail English
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Faith Bishop
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 2:00 pm    Post subject: 495 Reply with quote

Can I just see who are the active players in this game

Faith Bishop - posted recently
George Bishop
Hiram Bishop
Mary Black - posted recently
Abigail English - posted recently
Robert Osborne

Calling George and Hiram Bishop and Robert Osborne - please let us know you are still around
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George Bishop
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 2:43 pm    Post subject: 496 Reply with quote

I'm still here. Sorry about remaining silent, but my browser isn't retaining my password and each time I post I have to look it up.

I'm sort of curious as to how the cult of the moon works. If they can recruit someone every night, then lynching a cult member every day is going to be a stalemate till the last person alive is a cult member.
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Mary Black
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 7:03 pm    Post subject: 497 Reply with quote

George, the cult of the moon can no longer recruit anyone. I have protected the Bishops from being recruited permanently (although they may have already been recruited) and have been protecting Robert Osborne the past two nights. Should we lynch Abigail, I'll protect robert osborne permanently and since I am not a farmer, I can't be recruited.

Perhaps I am being too paranoid, but I have a feeling in my gut that tells me that your question was intended to lead us to believe that you aren't cult... Not quite a FOS but perhaps a Raised Eyebrow of Suspicion.
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George Bishop
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 7:29 pm    Post subject: 498 Reply with quote

Mary, I must have missed it before and I wasn't aware your protections were permanent.

I'll Vote: Abigail English since as you stated she could have been converted at any point.
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Faith Bishop
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 11:32 am    Post subject: 499 Reply with quote

vote: Abi English - although I am surprised that with Mary Black's skills she hasn't been killed so far.

BTW - Mith what's the story with Hiram Bishop - havent seen a post in ages
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mith
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 11:28 pm    Post subject: 500 Reply with quote

Need a replacement for Hiram. I know someone was interested, but now I can't remember who. Email me.
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Abigail English
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 1:39 am    Post subject: 501 Reply with quote

After I die, I'm interested
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Faith Bishop
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 8:41 am    Post subject: 502 Reply with quote

well that's still 3 votes for abi english

Will the others speak up?

BUMP
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Hiram Bishop
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:48 pm    Post subject: 503 Reply with quote

Speaking up. I'm going to need to do a scan through the thread before I vote for anyone (fairly obviously, I would think.)
I'll be back shortly with thoughts and a vote.
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Hiram Bishop
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:05 am    Post subject: 504 Reply with quote

As to the questions, I will verify that I am part of the Bishop family/mason group and that I trust Faith & George.

I am thinking that Abigail's lack of information recently is the most suspicious thing happening at the moment. vote: Abigail English.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:42 am    Post subject: 505 Reply with quote

With 4 votes, Abigail English is lynched. She was exactly what she claimed.

Abigail English (Animal Shop Owner) - lynched by the Town

Send choices.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 3:35 am    Post subject: 506 Reply with quote

It's day, no deaths once again.
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Faith Bishop
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 10:07 am    Post subject: 507 Reply with quote

Even more confused now. With 3 masons alive and no deaths at night the question of who is evil is getting difficult to answer.

Why was there no deaths last night? - was it due to inactivity, protection or incompetance?

Did Mary Black manage to protect Robert Osborne like she said she would?

Is it simply a case (like was discussed previously) that one of the masons is evil?

Other questions - why would a mafia group keep all the masons alive - together we are already in a majority.

It may be a risk but i think George could be scum!!

What are your thoughts?
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Mary Black
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 10:39 pm    Post subject: 508 Reply with quote

No deaths = no witches. I don't think the cult can kill.

Only the cult remain and they cannot convert anybody anymore. On one hand i'd rather lynch Robert Osborne because of the remaining people he has the greatest chance of being cult. On the other, george seems to be the most suspicious. Someone's got to start it off so...

Vote : Robert Osborne


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Robert Osborne
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 12:27 am    Post subject: 509 Reply with quote

I know I'm innocent, and I guess Mary Black is not recruitable which is what they said before, and that makes sense. So it must be one or two of the Bishops, but I don't know who. I will read back again in a bit, but if Mary thinks George is most suspicious, I will go with that... even though she is voting me.. i will not go with that
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Faith Bishop
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 10:16 am    Post subject: 510 Reply with quote

If there are no witches left and the cult can't recuit anymore then why is the game still being played?

Mary Black now raises my FOS
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Mary Black
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 7:46 pm    Post subject: 511 Reply with quote

Faith, you bring up a good point. I assumed that we can't go without a lynch but i'm willing to try for a joint town-cult win.

Unvote : Robert Osborne
Vote : No Lynch
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Mary Black
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 8:04 pm    Post subject: 512 Reply with quote

Let me show all my cards. I actually have *2* abilities.

The one you all know about is that I can protect a person from recruitment/possession at night. I was hoping that the witches would keep me alive to slow the growth of the cult, which seemed to work. This is *PERMANENT* and all remaining persons are protected this way.

The other ability is that I can protect a person from *ALL* spells (including the witch kill) for 1 night. This is what I was using to protect Robert Osborne and why I set up Ezra to claim to be the doctor as I was the one who prevented the kill.

Last night I innoculated Robert Osborne (ability #1) in case I got killed in the night since I didn't have the time to earlier, but *NO ONE* died even without me preventing a kill. This leads me to believe that all the witches are now dead.

I assume the game isn't over since the cult are evil but since they don't have a majority and can't expand, they are impotent. So the question is whether we are allowed to have a co-win with the cult or whether mith wants us to purge the evil (*likely* Robert Osborne) totally from the town.
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George Bishop
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 8:44 pm    Post subject: 513 Reply with quote

I meant to post, but got busy....I'll either post later tonight or tomorrow.
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George Bishop
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2002 8:08 pm    Post subject: 514 Reply with quote

OK, I finally have a minute to spare.

First, I agree that it seems we only have cult and townies left. If Mary Black's role is as she says, then we are essentially at a stalemate where the cult can't win unless we lynch all the townies. I'm not sure if the game can end this way or not, and if it can why didn't it already end.

I'm not sure what to do, because I don't know who is cult and who isn't. If the other Bishop's have been brought into the cult, I'm sad to admit that there's nothing I can really do. It's not in my best interest to lynch my own family since I was led to believe that as a mason group we could end the game successfully even if one of the others is a cult memeber. Basically, I'm saying that I'm not a cult, but if Faith or Hiram is, it doesn't matter cause I'm supposed to just try and survive with them as a family.

Since it's worth a try though, for now,
Vote: no lynch
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mith
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2002 11:10 pm    Post subject: 515 Reply with quote

Note: I will end the game if there are two consecutive no lynch/no kill rounds. Whether you'll like the result is for you to decide.
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Hiram Bishop
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 8:51 am    Post subject: 516 Reply with quote

Sorry folks, I've had a life recently (the shock, the horror!) and haven't been around to post. Right now I'm beat and need to get some sleep, so I'll post some actual ideas when I wake up. Personally, I'd say that right now I'm least suspicious of George and unwilling to vote for him or Faith. Mary's changing role claims have me bemused at best, suspicious at least. I don't like the idea of a no lynch, but will go along with the town (like I have a choice) if that is what people think best.
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Faith Bishop
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:38 am    Post subject: 517 Reply with quote

Why should we let the cult share our win? They have done some nasty stuff this game and Miths prior statement makes me think that its not in the towns interest to let them survive.
vote: Mary Black
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George Bishop
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 1:29 pm    Post subject: 518 Reply with quote

Well I agree with Faith that after mith's last post it doesn't seem to be in the best interest to have a no lynch and end the game at this point. I know that as Bishop family member, my goal is to see the family survive above all else, whether they be cult or town controlled. Unfortunately I don't know what the result will be if multiple Bishops survive and there is a cult/townie mixture. I was under the assumption things would somehow work out, but that might be just being naive

However, Mary Black seems more suspicious at this point, so I'll continue assuming Faith and Hiram are either townie like me or if they are cult then family ties mean more in this town.

Vote: Mary Black
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Mary Black
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 11:41 pm    Post subject: 519 Reply with quote

You guys must be some kind of morons, or Cult.

Not Only did I lynch a Cult, John English, using my judge powers, I reminded Mith of it afterwards so that Mr. English was Lynched. Also, I started the Elizabeth Martin (Cult) Bandwagon after trapping her into saying she was a "doctor".

Vote : George Bishop
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 11:49 pm    Post subject: 520 Reply with quote

24 hour deadline for day.

Mary Black: 2
George Bishop: 1

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