Mafia in Mossflower! (Mafia 58)(Finished)

[PuzzleProdigy]

Winners:
ralphmerridew (Fortunata)
RoadBird- jadesmar 2 (Ashleg)
Sparhawk (Tsarmina)


Dead:
The Master (Bella)- poisoned
Jadesmar- (Mask)- ripped to shreds
groza528- (Bane)- thrown to Gloomer (lynched)
quercitron- (Cludd)- ripped to shreds
Accountant- (Germaine)- thrown to Gloomer
Cyberdork- (Amber)- poisoned
Ameb- (Gingivere)- slain in a swordfight
Termital- (Chibb)- poisoned
Soothsayer- (Bula)- ripped to shreds
Kazooish- (Argulor)- thrown to Gloomer
Corsato- (Martin)- poisoned
Werebear- (Dinny)- thrown to Gloomer
TANSTAAFL- (Pear)- poisoned
crackerjack- (Gonff)- thrown to Gloomer
amb- (Columbine)- thrown to Gloomer
Porro- (Skipper)- thrown to Gloomer



[This message has been edited by PuzzleProdigy (edited 11-27-2002 04:53 PM).]

[PuzzleProdigy]

I already have many of the choices. I might be able to start day tomorrow, at this rate.

[The Master]

Oh, I say! That would be just spiffin, wot wot!

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I plan on living in a cold place. That way Hell will seem like a long vacation.

[PuzzleProdigy]

Day breaks over Mossflower. The woodlanders (and their enemies) notice two absent persons. The Master and Jadesmar. The Master is found in his home at Brockhall, apparently poisoned. Jadesmar is found, well, actually, fragments of his bones are found, scattered all over Mossflower.

The Master was Bella the badger, leader of the CORIM resistance fighters. She could make one player immune to lynching, and broke ties in the voting.

Jadesmar was barely identifiable, but he was the Mask, an otter and a master of disguise. He had investigative abilities.

It takes nine votes to lynch, and Werebear is immune to lynching.
Commence voting!

[The Master]

Hell.

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I plan on living in a cold place. That way Hell will seem like a long vacation.

[ralphmerridew]

Crud. Not good for a first night.

Unless somebody has a better idea, I Vote: quercitron because I'm still holding a grudge against him for Improbable Role Mafia.

[jadesmar]

What the..?
Bah! Go woodlanders!
*re-dies*

[Werebear]

How do they get a cop first night every time Bah and double bah.

Werebear

[Sparhawk]

Ouch! As a vote based on absolutely no information, I will Vote: The Accountant since I don't know his/her style in mafia games.

[Corsato]

Vote: Porro, random

[Ameb]

Vote: Corsato for being the first person to say he's voting randomly.

[Corsato]

unvote: Porro
OMGUS vote: Ameb

Take that !!!

[Soothsayer]

vote: Porro - no reason

[Ameb]

Unvote: Corasto. He gave a reason that time. Vote: Soothsayer, though. (I think that's the last time I'm doing that. It's like voting for the quiet players, then going on to the next one when the first talks, which normally bugs me after a while. I might unvote, but a vote that's not at least somewhat dangerous is worth hardly anything.)

[Soothsayer]

don't you just hate first days when there is so little to go on

[Termital]

Shouldn't the title go "Day 1" now? This should either be up to date, or removed. In any case, my 20-sided die favored TANSTAAFL, so:

Vote: TANSTAAFL

[Corsato]

Maybe we should start the next game on day 2.

[Kazooish]

lol

Vote: Groza528

Because i can!

[RoadBird]

Oh...the game started already. I was waiting for the topic to change to day or something.

Vote: Amb

No reason other than any reason.

[TANSTAAFL]

VOTE: Termital for using a 20 sided die to choose between 15 people

[Amb]

Thanks Roadbird.

[omgus]Vote Roadbird[/omgus]

I havent been checking the thread cos it said night, but because it was high up the list I came in to read it....

[Werebear]

Time for a random vote... The Accountant, because I too am interested in what he has to say. And yes, please update the first post.

Werebear

[Termital]

Anybody with a 15-sided die around? Until only 12 of us are left, it would save me the re-rolls . Of course, I suppose I could always try to figure who the venomous vipers are, but what fun is that?

[groza528]

Time of the last poster is 2:09. The number of minutes from midnight to 2:09 is 849. Divide by the number of potential votees (15) and you get 56 with a remainder of 9. Using only the remainder, time to count down the list.
The ninth on the list (remembering to skip myself) is Quercitron.

By the time all this is done, there will probably be another post.
vote: Quercitron

[crackerjack]

Mole's not in this one? Dang...who do I vote for then?? Okay, I will go with the reverse alphabetical voting strategy and go with a vote for Termital since Werebear is immune.

[PuzzleProdigy]

2 quercitron- (ralphmerridew, groza)
2 Accountant- (Sparhawk, ~Werebear~)
2 Termital - (TANS..., crackerjack)
2 groza - (Kazooish, quercitron)
1 Ameb, sooth, Porro, TANS, groza, amb, RoadBird.

Not Voted...
The Accountant
Cyberdork
porro

9 to lynch.

Marker



[This message has been edited by PuzzleProdigy (edited 09-25-2002 06:59 PM).]

[quercitron]

OMGYS Vote: groza

Especially for using a random vote to bandwagon. Come on people, really.

[Amb]

Time to Bandwagon
Vote: Groza

May as well force a role claim out of someone....

[Cyberdork]

Sigh, I hate first days, I always end up picking the wrong random person to go after, I don't think I'm going to vote yet unless necessary or a good reason comes up. I just wanted to post and let you all know I wasn't lurking.

[Corsato]

Unvote: Ameb
Vote: Groza


Just bandwagonning.

[Termital]

Groza, The Accountant should have it in for you for this random method, as he has twice the chance of being selected . It would have been better if you had removed yourself before the division. Oh, and not every number of possible votes can be a multiple of 1440 (minutes in a day), so the first people on the list have their chances somewhat increased. Nitpicking further, what happens if the division is perfect? Does The Accountant take the fall again?
Or is it that you had thought of all this but deviously selected to divide by 15 rather than 13, in order to justify repeated votes against The Accountant later on by claiming you "just figured out" your random number generator is skewed?

[Termital]

After unearthing this Machiavellian machination, I shall be forced to change my vote to Groza unless he can prove that his generator is impartial, so he wasn't trying to spread the use of a mechanism for kicking the first players on the list out. I'm holding on for Groza's argument first though. (Hey, maybe I should've picked The Lawyer as a username )

[RoadBird]

Ok, bandwagon is a reason I can live with on first days.

Vote: Groza666

[Soothsayer]

Groza you are in danger of being bandwagoned - give me a good reason why I shouldn't change my vote to you

[Werebear]

well, if we're going to bandwagon, at least it's for a good reason.

*rolls eyes*

Werebear

[groza528]

OK, what's up?

Originally posted by Kazooish:

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Vote: Groza528 Because i can!

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Fair enough. No real malice apparent.

Originally posted by quercitron:

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OMGYS Vote: groza Especially for using a random vote to bandwagon. Come on people, really.

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I can't hold the OMGYS against you, I suppose. But "especially for using a random vote to bandwagon?" I explained every detail of my system. If I just said "RNG," that could be faked. But unless you can prove I deliberately screwed up my math, you've got nothing! In fact, I didn't even REALIZE I was the second person to vote for you until PP put up the vote count. Since my vote can be proven to be random, you can hardly use it as an argument against me. FOS: quercitron

Originally posted by Ameb:

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Time to Bandwagon. Vote: Groza. May as well force a role claim out of someone....

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And since it's time to bandwagon, naturally we have to choose the person who described his voting system TO THE LETTER instead of someone like Termital, who claims to have rolled a twenty-sided die, which, as I have said before, could have been faked. (Note: I'm not saying Termital is guilty, or even suspicious, just that it's ridiculous to single me out when you know exactly why I voted for who I did.) For that, you get FOSsed as well.

OK, this post would be far too long if I quoted everything Termital said wrong. First, I DID take myself out (17 people on the list minus myself and werebear is 15). Learn to count.
Second, it will always divide evenly. One lynch and two night deaths makes it 12 tomorrow, then 9, then 6, then 3. Besides that, I only use this method when I have nothing else to go on, so it's already obsolete.
Third, yes, how underhanded it was of me to increase the probability (which I didn't) of choosing the first name on the list (which I also didn't.) Apparently, such sneakiness is grounds for lynching. I should have been much more candid, like when Crackerjack said, "I'm going to vote for the last person on the list." I'm definitely to blame for that one.
For now, I shall continue to vote: quercitron for bringing this plague upon me.

[The Accountant]

I could do an OMGUS vote on Sparhawk, but couldn't be stuffed, what purpose would it serve? Interesting reason: not knowing my playing style. Surely you might keep me alive to see how I play, but thats your choice.
Vote: Groza528 if you want to get a decent answer, you should at least leave yourself in the equation, unless you want to skew the results!

[groza528]

Then I should probably leave Werebear in too, huh? I took myself out for the same reason I took werebear out. I'm not going to vote for him.

[Ameb]

[Werebear]

First day bandwagons are never based on logic. Picking on someone who either 1) was creative enough to find a laughable way to randomly generate a number, or 2) was having an innocent joke is JUST AS VALID as starting a bandwagon because someone hasn't posted, or has posted, or because they posted to say they aren't posting...

Groza? Any word on a role?

Werebear