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Vanilla Mafia [Town annihilates a recruiting mafia team]
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Werebear
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 2:10 pm    Post subject: 41 Reply with quote

Putting it that way, then I think tfff needs to do some talking.
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tffff
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 8:02 pm    Post subject: 42 Reply with quote

OK, I'll do some talking. You're all a bunch of idiots!!!

What's going to happen here? Fine, lynch tffff early if you want to. Then what? One townie down, another no doubt to follow during the night, and what do you have left to go on?

Quiller's only said 3 words so far
Mikegoo's only said 4 words so far

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO WORK OUT WHO TO LYNCH IN THE FUTURE IF NO-ONE'S SAID ANYTHING??

The mafia are laughing out of their backsides at us while all this is going on. They don't even have to do anything to get a bandwagon started.

Green Crayons is probably the worst of all: First he tries to get a bandwagon against GARM. Then when that's not going to work he jumps on the next nearest. Green Crayons: If you care what's going to happen to this town then why are you doing this??

Unvote: jesternl
Vote: Green Crayons
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Werebear
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 8:39 pm    Post subject: 43 Reply with quote

...and that little tirade means we should all pack up our torches and pitchforks and go home? Yelling because you think the bandwagon started too soon, then casting about for others to blame is innocent behavior?

Maybe. Maybe not.
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 9:02 pm    Post subject: 44 Reply with quote

Boo hoo, Tfff. Bandwagoning is the only way to go first round. You're as good of a candidate as anyone else. I'm keeping my vote where it is.
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Gaspode
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 10:14 pm    Post subject: 45 Reply with quote

Tfff, it's day one. Get a grip. Give me one example of when something really important happened on day one.

unvote: Werebear
vote: Tfff

You are way too paranoid.
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Amb
Amb the Hitched.



PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 5:12 am    Post subject: 46 Reply with quote

48 Hour Warning

A lynch will be made in 48 hours, unless an extension is asked for and granted.

At that point the person with the most votes is lynched and night will begin.
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Quiller
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 6:13 am    Post subject: 47 Reply with quote

Let's speed up the game, that defense was pathetic.

unvote Sparticus, vote Tfff

Bye.
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Amb
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 6:19 am    Post subject: 48 Reply with quote

And so with the final vote required, the town grabbed TFFFF and rushed him to the gallows. Along the way he screamed 'You fools, IM COP', 'IM COP!' but his cries were in vain.

His body soon dangled from the rope. TFFF was gone.

A quick investigation of his house, showed that he had lied in crying out being cop as he was dragged away.

Congratulations, TFFFF the mafia stabber is dead.

Other facts of note. TFFFF was involved in the botched kill last night. It seems he who kills by the sword, shall die by the swo... well noose at least.

Well done town

It is now night.
Please send your choices.
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Werebear
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 2:43 pm    Post subject: 49 Reply with quote

Good heavens, a 47-reply day one. This has to be a record.
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Sivat
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 4:22 pm    Post subject: 50 Reply with quote

well if it lynches baddies, i'm all for it!!! w00t!

GO TOWN!!!
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Amb
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 7:27 am    Post subject: 51 Reply with quote

Still waiting on one choice....

I emailed them....
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Amb
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 7:02 pm    Post subject: 52 Reply with quote

Werebear opened his cupboard and removed some cream for his stab wounds from night one. He was thankful that the doctor helped him survive the attack of TFFFF the mafia stabber. He was inwardly happy that the mafia had been inept, and not only failed to kill, but got themselves lynched as well. He heard a knock at his door, and he wandered over and peered through the keyhole. A person, dressed as a doctor stood at the door. Werebear happily opened the door - he was protected once more. The 'doctor' however rushed at werebear, and quickly had a length of barbed wire around Werebears neck. The diguise has worked..... and werebear was once again in need of real medical attention. It never came.

Werebear, the schizophrenic, was strangled to death.

Each night Werebear had a different skill. On night 1, he was a townie. On night 2 (last night) he could make a player immune from lynching. At later points he also became cop, doc etc...

The town has lost a very valuable member. There are 10 players left, it will take 6 to lynch.
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Amb
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 7:05 pm    Post subject: 53 Reply with quote

Incidentally Werebears choice last night was Sivat

Sivat is immune to being lynched.
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TANSTAAFL
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 8:47 pm    Post subject: 54 Reply with quote

vote: gaspode

for joining the bandwagon after it was already pretty much done with. some mafia try this to look innocent when there is no chance of saving the mafia target without incriminating themselves.

Of course if anyone can come up with better reasoning or evidence I will be more than willing to consider it.
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Sparticus
Spourk's Insignificant Other



PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 9:03 pm    Post subject: 55 Reply with quote

Vote: Siv...Damn!

JK, I wouldn't seriously vote for Sivat. Since Day 1 was so short, I have nothing to go on. Any suggestions?

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mikegoo
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 10:22 pm    Post subject: 56 Reply with quote

I've got no interesting ideas right now. I'd go with TANSTAAFL's gaspode idea, but gaspode cast his vote before the deadline was announced and doesn't seem all that suspiscious to me...not that I'm saying he's innocent mind you . I'd be willing to cast my vote for GARM or Soothsayer as I believe at least one of them is mafia...just instinct no proof.

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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 11:20 pm    Post subject: 57 Reply with quote

Vote: Soothsayer

Merely a hunch, mixed with randomness. Nothing substantial.
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Gaspode
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 3:09 am    Post subject: 58 Reply with quote

TANSTAAFL, if I didn't cast the second to last vote, who would have? We needed to kill Tffff somehow.

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GARM
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 3:10 am    Post subject: 59 Reply with quote

Not really sure who to vote for as well. Couldn't pick too much out of the first day.

Might wait and see what people have to say.
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TANSTAAFL
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 1:25 pm    Post subject: 60 Reply with quote

Yes, someone would have had to cast that vote, but in this case it was you. With so little to go on from day one, the vote is partly based on a hunch. I've said I'll consider any other suggestions that people may have.
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Bear Skin Rug
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 2:50 pm    Post subject: 61 Reply with quote

Waaaah! Doc, Doc, where were you when I needed you?!?! er, again?

go town!!!

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Quiller
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 10:53 pm    Post subject: 62 Reply with quote

vote Garm

I don't like wait and see. Very mafiaesque.
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 3:53 am    Post subject: 63 Reply with quote

God, just to get this day (and game) moving..

unvote: Sooth
vote: GARM
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mikegoo
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 4:49 am    Post subject: 64 Reply with quote

It appears the wind is blowing in one of my choices directions.

vote: Garm
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GARM
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 10:04 am    Post subject: 65 Reply with quote

I am all for joining bandwagons on the first day but going for it after that, is a bit...well I am lost for words. All I said was "Might wait and see what people have to say." Why not vote for Sparticus for saying almost the exact same thing? Or why not actually use your brain!!

Vote: Green Crayons the bandwagon freak. In other games of mafia the town would have jumped all over such indiscriminate bandwagoning.
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 3:42 pm    Post subject: 66 Reply with quote

Oh, okay. So i should have just sat around, with my vote on Sooth, with my thumb up my butt? Yeah, that would have spurred on tons of conversation.

My vote stands. Your reasoning is null in my opinion.
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 3:46 pm    Post subject: 67 Reply with quote

Oh, and because i'm not one to edit my posts, i'll just double post.

As for your comment:

Quote:
In other games of mafia the town would have jumped all over such indiscriminate bandwagoning.


Two things.
One: It's the second day. Not much else has transpired from day one to base much reasoning on. I already had a vote (i believe the only vote made) out there, based on what reasoning i could deduce from day one. You, on the other hand, just wanted to sit around and wait. Inactivity isn't great for the town, either, buddy.
Two: In other mafia games, the town isn't braindead. In other mafia games, the town partakes in something called "discussion." You don't want to partake in "discussion." You want to, quote, "Wait and see what people have to say." Yeah, my votes sticking.
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mikegoo
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 5:01 pm    Post subject: 68 Reply with quote

The idea GARM is that once we decide we want to hear from someone we vote for them and then they put up some kind of defense. Yours seems to be "if the town would just think they'd clearly see I'm innocent". Calling the people intent on your death stupid is really a rather brilliant tactic. I believe tfff tried the same tactic. Didn't work and wasn't true, but I'm going to help you out. Here is what your defense should be:

GARM: I know we don't have much to go on and the votes are simply to get the game moving, but if you look at this post by tfff (now dead mafia scum)
quote:
In other words,
1. Bandwagonning people: why this early?
2. jesternl/GARM: have you got anything in defence worth saying?

Now this doesn't prove my innocence, but I don't think tfff was subtle enough to ask for my defense if I were mafia as well.

Now that I have seen your good defense (and very well written I might add)
unvote: GARM
vote: soothsayer
My reasoning is that these two voted for each other and then sat there and stared for the rest of the first day. I'm thinking one is possibly mafia and from the resaoning above I don't think GARM is it.
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 5:16 pm    Post subject: 69 Reply with quote

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My reasoning is that these two voted for each other and then sat there and stared for the rest of the first day.
Exactly why i voted for Sooth - that was the basis of reasoning i had. Someone then voted for Garm, so i figured the day should get moving, and he was the other under suspect.
FOS: Soothsayer, just so nobody thinks i have forgotten about him.

But, Mike, just when i was about to cross you off the Most Probable Scum list, you had to go and just hand Garm a defense - too openly scumlike, but perhaps you, if you are a scum, would have guessed that nobody would believe scum would actually have the balls to openly aid a fellow member of mafia. But your defense given to Garm is not a very solid one, as i'll point out the major flaw in it:

It's very possible that Tfff pointed a finger at Jesternl and Garm because one is innocent, and one is scum. Now, both were accused by Tfff of something or another, and one knows himself to be innocent. Then, perhaps Tfff was hoping that the innocent would automatically assume that the other accused was also innocent - when in reality he may very well be scum? See where i'm going? That defense doesn't sway my vote.

So Garm stands under the shadow of guilt in for two reasons. More the reason for me to vote.
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mikegoo
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 5:59 pm    Post subject: 70 Reply with quote

GC: I had the same thought about tfff and accusing one innocent and one guilty, but then I read all of tfff's posts. He did not come across as sneaky and devious to me. This was the reason for this line (still while pretending to be GARM):
Quote:
Now this doesn't prove my innocence, but I don't think tfff was subtle enough to ask for my defense if I were mafia as well.

It seems we just disagree with tfff's abilities. That said, I'm not positive GARM is innocent, but I think Sooth is a better choice at this juncture than GARM.
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GARM
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 5:10 am    Post subject: 71 Reply with quote

Taking a deep breath....

I didn't mean to offend anyone so if someone thought I was calling them an idiot I wish to apologise.

Thank you Mikegoo, I was thinking of a defence along those lines. I would have added also how I had a FOS against Tfff.

Green Crayons as strange as this may seem I tend to think that you are innocent because I don't believe the mafia would have the guts to do what you are doing. Especially calling the town brain dead. You are just an innocent bandwagon freak. However I do agree bandwagoning does speed up the game so Unvote: Green Crayons and Vote: Soothsayer

If all that doesn't help then how about this. I invite the cop (whoever you are) to investigate me tonight, in fact I beg you to investigate me tonight. Not sure how you can release the info but at least someone will know who I am and what I can do.

Hmmmm...just wondering....I wonder if mikegoo is the cop as he has come to my defence (against great opposition) because he investigated me night one? Could be off track...don't know.

Time will reveal all.
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 5:49 am    Post subject: 72 Reply with quote

Mm. I wouldn't actually mind seeing the cop coming out, except that the fact that if the doc bites the bullet (buys the farm, hits the dust, etc..), he'll be dead the next nightfall. Just thinking aloud, if you will.

Anyways, i'll sway for now, simply because people are stupid and aren't talking.
Unvote: Garm
Vote: Sooth
..again.

Wait. That's really familiar. Oh, yeah. Happened over in Anarchy in the USA. Hm. Maybe he'll actually be scum this time around. FOS: Everone not voting, or at least talking.
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Gaspode
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 6:02 am    Post subject: 73 Reply with quote

Geez, you people are ridiculous. A bandwagon springs up from "I don't like the fact that this guy doesn't have any strong suspicions right now." But I do believe this discussion is getting somewhere, so I won't vote Quiller for starting the bandwagon, and while I don't like what GC is doing, he is just playing like he usually does. But, as for mikegoo, he has been number three on two bandwagons so far. Other than that he seems to be acting pretty normal, but how often is someone 3rd on both bandwagons by chance? Plus, he voted without much of a reason, which I hate. vote: mikegoo
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 6:09 am    Post subject: 74 Reply with quote

Quote:
and while I don't like what GC is doing, he is just playing like he usually does.


I happen to enjoy my style of playing, thankyouverymuch. The random acts of stupidity do well to cover up my true genius. If you only knew.
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mikegoo
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 6:37 am    Post subject: 75 Reply with quote

***I'm bored otherwise I wouldn't even respond to a single ridiculously unsupported vote and I feel like working on my condescending holier than thow tone of post***

Gaspode: have you been reading the thread?...number 3 on a bandwagon that lynched a scum. Number three on the GARM bandwagon which I earlier said I would join (reasons were explained when I unvoted him and had nothing to do with his not having any suspicions)...then I attempted to derail that bandwagon because I had second thoughts (read that as being bored enough to reread the thread...something you might consider). I am now voting for Soothsayer the other person I said I wanted to lynch (or at least hear more from) and I even gave reasons, but you probably missed that like you did everything else.

Incidentally, weekends are often slow.
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Gaspode
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 4:39 pm    Post subject: 76 Reply with quote

Yeah, I saw all (or at least most) of that, but your vote for tffff was just a lucky "blatant bandwagon vote" with no logic behind it. I realize that you never jumped off, but if you are scum, you would've realized that it was dangerous and pointless to do so, since tffff was acting very scummy and was going to be lynched with or without you. I'll admit I missed that thing before the GARM bandwagon, but I have nothing better to go on, so my vote stays on you. Plus, look at the big defense you just posted after one vote that is based on the semi-stupid logic of the third voter rule.

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TANSTAAFL
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 7:10 pm    Post subject: 77 Reply with quote

Garm, you ask for the cop to investigate you tonight so they will know who you are and what you can do...

what does that mean? What can you do? I must admit that I find you more suspicious than Sooth. but I won't vote for you if you answer my questions.

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GARM
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 7:57 pm    Post subject: 78 Reply with quote

Tanstaafl, I would have thought your first question was self explainatory. Look I have never been a cop before in any other game (and this one) but I would assume they get told if the player is scum or not and/or what abilites they may have. With this info the cop will KNOW my role exactly. I realise the cop can't do a lot with that info without coming out but I probably would if I had found scum. And would prob only do that if the doc was still alive.

Not sure if the above has answered your questions. I hope it has. I didn't figure you were actually asking me to do a role claim esp. with only one vote on me, tfff tried that yesterday as well and he got a FOS from me. But with you I will give you the benefit of the doubt...for now.
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Amb
Amb the Hitched.



PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 6:11 am    Post subject: 79 Reply with quote

4x24 Hours before deadline.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 6:12 am    Post subject: 80 Reply with quote

Extensions permissable if required
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