Rock and Pop mafia the sequel - GAME OVER

[Werebear]

This game is stagnating. If Dan isn't mafia, then IS has some explaining to do tomorrow.

Vote: Dan

[Trevize]

I would have expected IS to post by now. I'm going back and forth on whether to believe IS but I would prefer to see IS explain why he posted against Dan. So since there is no explanation i am choosing to start a bandwagon to make IS talk.
vote: IS

[Green Crayons]

IS didn't make much of a fuss being lynched over on mafiascum, either. Maybe his internet access is crap, and he decided to not say a word about it?

Vote: IS, for the moment. FOS: Dan, simply because IS might have something worthwhile to share with the group.

[Werebear]

Wow, someone comes out and gives information, and all of a sudden he's #1 suspect! ROFL! Here we all are, begging for information, someone gives it, and you guys flock to vote him. I figured if IS is wrong, he'd be our main hotseat tomorrow.

[Gaspode]

That's exactly why I voted Dan and not IS.

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You can't lose if you win.

[Dan]

Stop voting IS, there is no reason. Voting for him will not provoke him into talking, he has already been directly addressed by myself, Trevize and ralphmerridew. This does not necessarily justify voting for him because he hasn't responded. He hasn't posted on the GL at all since Friday, he might not have internet access. I seriously don't think this can be taken any farther until IS responds. If he doesn't respond by tomorrow we should find a new course of action.

[Green Crayons]

Alright, fine. I just wanted my vote to go somewhere. Unvote: IS, Vote: Sparticus, because he hasn't said anything today, and i've yet to go back and look through the thread to see who my major suspicions up to this point are.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Vote count update - seven to lynch

Dan 2 (IS, Werebear)
Werebear 1 (Dan)
Trevize 1 (Tanstaafl)
IS 1 (Trevize)
Sparticus 1 (Green Crayons)

Posted, not voted: Gaspode, ralphmerridew
Not posted: Degenerate, Logain, Mikegoo, Sparticus

[Werebear]

[OffTopic]Degenerate, Logain, Mikegoo, Sparticus? Care to post at some point?[/OffTopic]

[mikegoo]

Waiting to get a little more info on the Dan, IS thing.

[TANSTAAFL]

unvote: trevize, but he's still suspicious in my mind. Especially with voting IS. We really don't need IS to give us an explanation. vote: dan and if he's innocent then tomorrow we vote for IS

[Sparticus]

Sorry about that. I guess I should have posted just to let you know I was still here. I'm not sure who to vote for: IS or Dan. If I were to go with my gut, I'd say Dan, but that remains tentative because, as it has been said, IS has not posted further. I'll withhold my vote for a little more.

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In my dice bag, I've got dice you've never even heard of. I have a d5, d7, d14, d16...I think I've even got a d1.

[Trevize]

fine! unvote: IS. But I will not join this bandwagon. Thinking. . .

[Degenerate]

Sorry, I'm here. Will post a vote soon.

[Degenerate]

Vote: IS

[Logain]

Sorry for the lack of response. I haven't posted to any mafia thread in the past few days. I've been sick as a ChienFou since last week (and still am), but since I'm at work I can find time to post.

Vote: Dan

I'll give IS the benefit of the doubt until someone else gives a better information. I'll follow IS for now since most mafia don't sacrifice themselves one for one, knowing that a bad outcome means tomorrow might get them lynched.

[Dan]

Ok, this isn't going anywhere, four out of seven votes with an investigator pointing at me is not a good situation. Waiting for more votes to pile on will just be a waste of time in an already dragging game. So, here we go:

First off, IS apparently forgot about the game, or can't post more than once a day. I don't think he forgot about the game because he seems pretty promt to jump back in at the start of each day. To the point, I am unable to wait for IS's response to go into this.

I agree with Logain's logic, it would be stupid for a mafia to kill one for one (especially when they've already lost two members). I mentioned earlier that IS probably was an investigator, otherwise he wouldn't have been so short and to the point. It was a powerful statement, but please remember IS said he has good reason to believe that I'm mafia. This leads me to believe that he is not an all-out mafia/not-maifa investigator, which explains why he mistakened me for mafia.

IS probably investigated me last night because, well, I have been making a lot of noise. He found out one of two things: (1) That I am part of a group or (2) That I conversed with other players last night. Another possibility is that he sees things sometimes at night at random.

The point is that I am a mason. I am the Crash Test Dummies of the "Nitwit Lodge". The theme has to do with being stupid, I'm a dummy = nitwit. My allies have simliar names.

Now here's the thing. I don't want any of my allies to come out and support me directly, saying shit like "Oh yes he's a mason." We don't need that, all that wil happen is that BOTH of us will be killed by the mafia, I'd rather just myself die. I've always felt that the power of the masons lies in their knowledge of innocents, and thus directing their votes and posts accordingly, not in bailing each other out.

Also on the subject of wasting innocents, if and when you lynch me you will find that I'm innocent. Do not lynch IS, this, again is completely unnecessary. He is just doing his job of providing what information he can, and perhaps he is only able to do so in one post per day.

So: IS and myself should not be regarded as possibilities for now, or at least we should be given until tomorrow to live. I'm sure IS will be prompt to respond on the next morning. In the meantime it would be good of a doc to protect him tonight, save us an investigator. So yeah, give us until tomorrow.

As for today...Degenerate hasn't been posting much, though that's not much to go on (and I'm not sure about his logic to vote IS, in fact he didn't provide any at all, which is weird since the bandwagon was dying down (dead, IS had no votes), this suggests something, I'm just not sure what. If he wanted to jump on a bandwagon, why didn't he choose mine? Degenerates posts have been concise with votes, and apparently poorly thought out, so I'm not so sure about him. FOS: Degenerate)

Another possibility is Green Canyons, who is always willing to change his vote to jump on the latest craze vote. It's as if he has no will of his own, he's persistent changing of votes, which suggests little thought on his own part, or just eagerness to get an innocent lynched (though this might just be mistakened for eagerness to play the game).

BTW, Unvote: Werebear, sorry I forgot I was voting for you. And since I'd like to keep this moving, Vote: Degenerate because he's on my suspect list.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Let's impose a deadline to accelerate discussions.

Deadline Friday 2PM GL time

[Werebear]

I've always assumed a mason would come out and support another mason if accused, but I see no reason for them to at the moment... time will tell, I guess. Any other thoughts on this?

[Sparticus]

Yeah, the masons shouldn't really come out until near the end of the game. Now, it would be too early.

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In my dice bag, I've got dice you've never even heard of. I have a d5, d7, d14, d16...I think I've even got a d1.

[Green Crayons]

The only thing about Dan's role claim is that if he is scum, the two-person mason claim is highly convienent - there is no real logical reason for the other person to come out (because it doesn't reveal a mass of innocents to the town as four-five person mason lodges do once they come out), and, thus, there is no pressure in needing to confirm Dan's claim. Just a slight suspicion, but nothing that i'd lay a vote down with.

Speaking of votes, Unvote: Sparticus, since he did speak up. Mikegoo declared that he was waiting for more information on the Dan/IS situation. Well, i can see the reason for hestitation, but i believe that we've gotten all we can from either IS or Dan at the moment. And, besides a role claim (of a person i already expected to be pro-town), and a who-knows-what out've IS, not a whole lot else has been produced, information wise. Vote: Mikegoo, just to grab your attention, and perhaps to tip you into putting a solid vote down, instead of being all quiet like. ...Don't they say that mafia usually keep quiet to not draw attention to themselves?

[Dan]

Who said there were only two people in my mason lodge?

[Green Crayons]

[mikegoo]

Right...I'm being quiet so as not to draw attention to myself...been reading the game carefully have we? I have nothing to go on and am not going to throw 2 votes onto anyone without a decent reason. That said I think I will go for this though...
vote: degenerate
...I can't fathom why someone would vote for IS at this point. His (IS) behavior is annoying but certainly not scum like. Thanks for the nudge to wake me up GC.

[Werebear]

Unvote: Dan If there's really no "nitwit lodge", it will surface very soon. I'm not worried. Vote: Degenerate to keep the game going.

[Logain]

Well there has been no IS follow-up on why he voted for Dan, and Dan's plead seems believable. He also didn't seem to concerned that he might be lynched as if he knew someone like a mason might come forward to claim his innocence if it came down to it.

unvote: Dan
vote: Degenerate

[Green Crayons]

Always here to help, Mike. Unvote: Mikegoo, Vote: Degenerate - at the risk of seeming "always willing to change his vote to jump on the latest craze vote."

[Sparticus]

That's six so far. Any defense, Degenerate?

[TANSTAAFL]

unvote: Dan

my vote is pending a defense from degenerate...

[Trevize]

dEGENERATE were Are you. You have 24hr wait onn my vote for you. Starting... now!

[Dan]

Dude, the deadline for this day is in 19.5 hours (2pm tomorrow, I'm assuming GL Time).

[Degenerate]

Whoah, sorry for not posting. I'm here. I don't care if you lynch me. It's not like it would make a difference.

[Dan]

If you didn't want to play (as is suggested by your indifferance to being lynched), you should have asked for a replacement. Why have you endured with sparratic posting and mindles voting? Are you trying to fake us out?

[Werebear]

If anyone here mods mafia games, I'd think twice before letting someone in who could care less about playing.

[TANSTAAFL]

vote: degenerate if you don't want to play, fine.

[Dragon Phoenix]

That suffices. A resigned Degenerate is lynched.

In his house you find a diary, with two entries:

#1)I will take over this town! Every night I will recruit someone to form part of my cult until we have converted or killed them all. If they don't want to join, I will kill them. And if I stumble upon a mafia I'll kill them immediately. Bwahahahaha.

#2) Bah, I am not having any luck so far. Last night I found someone to recruit and he refused. He learnt his lesson - eating those blue oysters did not go well for him.... But still no recruits.

Congratulations, you have eliminated the dangerous BLUE OYSTER CULT.

Night falls, choices please. Deadline Monday 2PM GL time.

[Dragon Phoenix]

It is morning and many of you breathe a sigh of relief on surviving another night. Alas, Sparticus and Mikegoo are not amongst those lucky ones.

Sparticus is found dead with white powder all around him - another anthrax victim. If only he had left some notes - you see, he was THE WHO (a detective role - he would choose one player to investigate every 'night' and learn their name in this game, but not whether that role was good or bad).

Mikegoo has fallen victim of a multitude of stab wounds. He was as he claimed ULTRAVOX, a townie whose vote always counted twice.

Nine left - five to lynch.

THE LIVING
Gaspode
Green Crayons
Irish Drums/Dan
IS
Logain
ralphmerridew
Tanstaafl
Trevize
Werebear

THE DEAD
Quercitron (Barenaked Ladies, town, strangled)
Mike Amok (Stranglers, mafia, lynched)
Jalyn (Guns and Roses, town, victim of anthrax)
Lucrecia (Supertramp, town, victim of anthrax)
Hitchhiker (Judas Priest, townish, multiple stab wounds)
Crackerjack (Scorpions, pro-town immobiliser, lynched)
Polotet (Sex Pistols, mafia, multiple stab wounds)
Jesternl (Spin Doctors, doctor with a spin, food poisoning)
Degenerate (Blue Oyster Cult, evil cult leader, lynched)
Sparticus (The Who, detective, victim of anthrax)
Mikegoo (Ultravox, townie, multiple stab wounds)



[This message has been edited by Dragon Phoenix (edited 02-11-2003 02:25 AM).]

[Ghost of Sparticus]

Who...Who...Tell me who...Who's that bastard who killed me last night?!

Good luck, all you other rock and pop stars!

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I was Sparticus.

[Internet Stranger]

I now have good reason to believe that Logain is a good guy, so...

Vote: Dan

[Dan]

IS, have you no response to what I said yesterday? You are mistaken. It's as plain as that. I'm still not going to vote you because I know that you are simply mistaken. (though claiming to have evidence so blatantly might be a good cover for mafia, no one questions that you are some sort of investigator, hmmm...its a risky gambit...but you did say Logain was innocent....well of course, I know of a group of people that can identify innocents...but that still leaves the possibility (but it might not matter) that you'd accidentally call the SK a good guy...you also made no referance in your posts to anything I said, i.e. why you are only making one post per day....you suddenly seem like a very evasive character....maybe I should be voting you...)

Come to think of it, FOS: IS, reasons can be found in the stream of consciousness above. He has been evasive with minimal posts and ignored all the questions raised on the previous day. Plus I have personal reasons why I think he's suspiscious (he's voting for me). Though I don't know if he's really worth voting for at this point becasue I highly doubt we'll get any response out of him before tomorrow. :/

Bah, I wish I knew what to think. *goes back to reading neuroscience*