Rock and Pop mafia the sequel - GAME OVER

[Gaspode]

vote: Dan

I was about to vote for him because of this post:

Originally posted by Dan:

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Bah, by the time i finished the post, I had changed my mind. You are not paralzed, but if this were actually your role, you were making it to be worth more than it is.

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It looks like he tried to almost completely nullify his previous post, which makes me think he might've said something that he realized could be incriminating. It was shaky logic at the time, but Jesternl brought up some good points too.

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You can't lose if you win.

[Dan]

I wasn't nullifying the whole post, the whole post still makes sense. I realized afterwards that the fact was that he wasn't paralyzed. It was still apparent that he was sayin g that his role was more valuable than it really was (the mafia would never target their own, so he could never draw away their fire).

[Dan]

Green Canyons, learn to count.

[Green Crayons]

But.. but..? I dont see where i'm going wrong?

First five to vote Mike: Crackerjack, Sparticus, IS, Logain, Trevize

Followed by Mikegoo and then Polotet. ....That's seven, right? What'd i do?


Or were you being sarcastic? My sarcast-dar is broken, due to the fact that the output of sarcasm from me makes the thing to hay-wire.

[Dan]

Ah, you were talking about Mike's votes, I was talking about Jesternl's. I think Polotet was too.

See, you said you didn't want to jump on a bandwagon near the end because "They always say mafia jump on a bandwagon near the end". So you voted for Hitchhiker, then Polotet. Polotet said the 5th vote when we're pretty much random voting==jumping on near the end (meaning its not near the end at all). He saw this behavior as suspiscious, because it was reasoning to back up your vote that wasn't really true, so he voted you (I'm guessing thats the reason he voted you).

Or were you comparing Mike's votes and Jester's votes? Ugh, thinking too much, going to bed, must get up for class.

[Werebear]

You all are making my head hurt.

[Dragon Phoenix]

vote count update - 8 to lynch

Jesternl 4 (Dan, Trevize, IS, Logain)
Dan 2 (Jesternl, Gaspode)
Polotet 1 (Green Crayons)
Green Crayons 1 (Polotet)

Posted not voted: Ralphmerridew, Werebear
Not posted: Crackerjack, Degenerate, Mikegoo, Sparticus, Tanstaafl

In view of the large number of people who did not post at all although the day lasts five days already, I will introduce a heartattack rule the coming 'day' of the game.

current deadline Thursday 2PM

[jesternl]

You know, lets make things easier on us and the mod, and revert to the normal strategy of voting for the silent ones in the game. Dan might be fishy, but at leat he's active.
Unvote: Dan, Vote: CrackerJack simply because eh's the first one of the non-posters who is listed

[crackerjack]

vote: jesternl

You suck.

[Degenerate]

Vote: Sparticus

Is it hypocritical if I vote for a fellow non-poster?

[jesternl]

Glad you're here CrackerJack...
Unvote CrackerJack, Vote Sparticus

[TANSTAAFL]

I don't think it's hypocritical at all

vote: sparticus

[ralphmerridew]

Mounting pressure: Vote: Sparticus

[Werebear]

wow, a lot of votes piled on quickly. I'll wait for a response, or I'll vote later.

[Dragon Phoenix]

As this day is getting a bit more lively, I am postponing the deadline.

New deadline Saturday 2PM

[Green Crayons]

No, what i said was, was that i didnt want to vote Jesternl because his role sounds so crappy, that i doubt anyone would make it up. It's not a great role to have, and it's not vital for the town to keep around, so why would a scum want to claim a half-assed role to stop himself from getting lynched. Well, maybe i didnt say that word for word, but that was the point i was trying to get across.

Anyways, the reasoning behind voting Hitchhiker was that mafia usually jump on bandwagons (that being Mike's) near the end - espically if it's one of their own, and it seems like their buddy is going to get lynched one way or another. Stupid me, though, Hitchhiker is dead. So i moved one vote back, to Polotet.

But, i'll admit that reasoning is more or less crap. Extremely flabby and weak. If Sparticus doesn't speak up in a little bit, i'll switch my vote on over. If someone else comes up with something better (i dont think Dan is scum, he's drawing way too much attention to himself with his long posts and deductive reasoning; and Jesternl i've already explained), i'll gladly switch my vote as well. For now, though, it'll just stay for the sake of staying on someone.

[Sparticus]

I've been very busy catching up on schoolwork, so I've been able to do very little on the GL.

I was about to post a request for jesternl to say something at the beginning of this day, but I figured the post would have been pointless, as the votes were enough to do so. I did not add my own vote because I didn't want too much pressure on jesternl. Anyway, I don't really want to vote for him anymore due to his role claim.

As for the rest of the suspects, I'm rather clueless. If you'll excuse, I need to get to work now.

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In my dice bag, I've got dice you've never even heard of. I have a d5, d7, d14, d16...I think I've even got a d1.

[Polotet]

Fact the first: I can't count.

Fact the second: My x==y statement was sarcastic, but isn't valid now because, as I've already said, I can't count.

Fact the third: I would never, as a mafia member, randomly vote another member when the bandwagon was that far along. Not voting would not have made me look suspicious, so I had no reason to. It would have been stupid, silly, and sacrificial. In other words, a bad move.

Conclusion: I am not mafia scum.

[Gaspode]

unvote: Dan

Let's lynch the other silent one. vote: mikegoo

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You can't lose if you win.

[Gaspode]

Not that Dan was silent. When I said "the other" I meant that all others who originally hadn't posted had spoken up. Goo's the only one left.

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You can't lose if you win.

[Green Crayons]

Unvote: Polotet, Vote: Mikegoo

Eh, simple enough.

[mikegoo]

I'm not posting or voting because I don't want you nimrods to get someone to an unintentionally high vote count and we accidentally kill someone. It worked yesterday, but we got lucky. NOw I'm talking....vote: gaspode weee....now we both have 2.

[Dan]

Posting would hardly cause someone's vote-count to rise. Posting is almost always good, the more posts the better, I feel. Voting is another thing entirely, none of the voting is going in any real direction right now (even though Jesternl has four votes still, I'm not sure if he'll accumulate more), so I don't hink anyone's going to get lynched "accidentally".

In fact, I highly doubt yesterday was that much of an accidnet. At one point, it being the first round, the town had nine people who wanted Mike_Amok to die, that's pretty damn close to majority, no accident really. You must understand that someone saw fit to KILL Mike_Amok. DP does not make many mistakes (if at all). Please note the first post of this thread says that "regular majority" is needed for a lynch. This leads me to believe that someone used their role's ability and killed off Mike_Amok one vote shy of majority (9 is less than half of 19), simliar to how Judas Priest could have saved someone from being lynched. It was no accident, there was no carelessness, it was a precisely executed kill.

I don't like the cut of your jib mikegoo, I think you weren't posting becasue you were scared or wanted to let us fight amoungst ourselves. You apparently were watching us with out posting the whole time becasue you found it necessary to justify you non-posting with "you didn't want to accidentally lynch someone", why don't you just play the game?

FOS: mikegoo (though I'm not sure you'd be mafia, you might be the random stabby-guy that killed last night). Just so you know: You aren't do anything to prevent accidental lynchings or promote intentional ones by not posting.

[mikegoo]

I know why Mike-Amok died at nine votes....my vote early in the bandwagon (which was intended to encourage discussion, not to get him killed right away) counted for 2...as does my vote against gaspode...as will all of my votes...this is why I stated that gaspode was at 2 votes even though I'm the only one voting for him. Seeing as how nothing interesting was going on and I have no leads and I saw how my voting to encourage discussion worked out last time (we got lucky) as the bandwagon was unforming when the DJ noticed his oversite. I was thinking about trying to lay low and not reveal my role, but have instead decided to have fun with it. I am Ultravox and my votes count double. Now go find a bad guy.

[jesternl]

OK, I admit that Mikegoo's role sounds very convincing. Or he came up with a very good role using the mods error, but somehow that seems unlikely.
Dan, from the amount of talking you do you seem to be some sort of big mouth rapper, why don't you enlighten us and tell us who you are?
For now my vote stays on Sparticus, he did come in, but he should realize that if he's going to be away for a prolonged period of time, he should do more then just say "I've been busy". That seems a little too easy.


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Homo Sapiens non urinat in ventum.

[Gaspode]

Vote stays on Goo. A double-vote sounds like a GF-type role.

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You can't lose if you win.

[Polotet]

Vote: Gaspode. I think it's much more likely to be some spice on a town role than a godfather role.

[crackerjack]

It's pretty safe to say that someone's vote counted twice and that is why Mike was lynched. I am Duran Duran. It's my vote that counts twice. Yes, I think our mod has a sense of humor.

unvote: jesternl
vote: mikegoo

nice try ...

[Polotet]

Never mind, then, Gaspode. Unvote: Gaspode, Vote: Mikegoo

[mikegoo]

Easy enough ...get me to 7 folks voting for me (including crackerjack) and see if I die. Unless DP REALLY screwed up on the first day I'm willing to bet I don't die. If I do then I don't feel too bad about things...realizing that DP said 9 votes was enough I'm guessing there were not 2 double voters on that list.

One other thing...realize that Duran Duran was a bad guy in Barbarella (where the band got its name from and I'm willing to bet DP knows this). I wouldn't put it past him to have one person from each side get double votes so even if I do die don't take your eye off of crackerjack.

[mikegoo]

Let me also state that my band name fits easily as well as Duran Duran for a double voter...Ultravox (Ultra Voice). So nya

And unvote gaspode, vote: crackerjack

[Dan]

Unvote: Jesternl, but reluctantly . As far as my role goes, I follow the old rule of thumb not to reveal it unless absolutely necesssary; we'll come to that when we come to it. Trying to get me to reveal my role in non-strenuous circumstances just throws more suspicion on yourself jesternl (meaning: I'll be back to voting you soon enough).

Vote: mikegoo, following up on my FOS and testing the double-vote hypothesis. I think that my vote is the fifth (sixth if you are counting crackerjack as double). Crackerjack might have some other ability (or might be counting on someone to use their ability) to lynch mikegoo with under-majority votes to make it look like he has the double-vote ability, but this is hard to follow up on in future rounds. So, yeah, either could be lying, but I'm gonna go with the more suspiscious one.

[ralphmerridew]

Or we could set it up so that crackerjack gets seven votes (including mikegoo), and mikegoo gets seven votes (including crackerjack). I don't think there's more than one good person with a double-vote ability.

DP: Can people qualify their vote, as in "I vote for <i>foo</i>, but only if he doesn't have seven normal votes already" (to avoid a premature lynching if two people put in what they think are the seventh votes for somebody at the same time)?

[Dragon Phoenix]

quote:

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DP: Can people qualify their vote, as in "I vote for <i>foo</i>, but only if he doesn't have seven normal votes already" (to avoid a premature lynching if two people put in what they think are the seventh votes for somebody at the same time)?

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No.

[mikegoo]

Chances are neither of us is lying about our ability to get someone lynched today with less than a full majority...it's too easy to check.

Here is my new prediction...I will get lynched with 7 folks voting for me...you all find out i was big vote man for the town side. Tomorrow you lynch crackerjack and find out...I'm not sure, but I can't get past the Duran Duran being an evil character thing.

[TANSTAAFL]

well, I knew I was going to be at a disadvantage in this game because I know NOTHING about music or musicians or who would be good or evil. But I find crackerjack's claim to be more beleivable, so unvote: sparticus, vote: mikegoo

[Dragon Phoenix]

numbers of vote count update - eight to lynch, deadline Saturday 2PM

Mikegoo 6 (Gaspode, Dan, GC, Tanstaafl, Crackerjack, Polotet)
Jesternl 3 (Trevize, IS, Logain)
Sparticus 3 (Degenerate, Jesternl, ralphmerridew)
Crackerjack 1 (Mikegoo)

Posted, not voted: Werebear, Sparticus.

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[Werebear]

so you're saying if someone else votes you, mikegoo, then we see if those 7 are enough to kill?

[ralphmerridew]

Unvote: Sparticus
Vote: mikegoo

[ralphmerridew]

That's seven. Unvote: mikegoo