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RubberDuck
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 5:31 am    Post subject: 81 Reply with quote

Yay unvote:jesternl
Vote:Rm
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 6:11 am    Post subject: 82 Reply with quote

another..

Marker.
Jesternl - Sparticus, Beaudoin,
Sparticus - Jesternl
ralphmerridew - Quailman, quercitron, crackerjack, RubberDuck
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jesternl
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:31 pm    Post subject: 83 Reply with quote

OK, lets get it over with. Ralphmerridew has posted three times in over two weeks. One to confirm, one vote, and one vote change. The last post was nine days ago...
Unvote: Sparticus, Vote:Ralphmerridew
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ralphmerridew
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 6:08 pm    Post subject: 84 Reply with quote

Sorry, didn't realize I was getting so many votes; I was out over the weekend. I'm just a plain old townie.

Ack. I hate getting lynched when innocent.
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 8:52 pm    Post subject: 85 Reply with quote

A final roll call:

Jesternl - Sparticus, Beaudoin,
ralphmerridew - Quailman, quercitron, crackerjack, RubberDuck, Jesternl

Mymy, how easily the tides turn. Before ralphmerridew could put up much of a defense, the town collectively grabbed the poor fellow over to the sacrifical stone slab of explosion, glued his skin to the smooth stone (oh, did i forget to mention? everyone in Bombersville goes nude. *whistle!* Heh, heh.), and then shoved some dynomite into his mouth, just as he opened it to provide an excuse. Alas, the rather loud (and grotesque) conclusion of ralphmerridew's life seemed to have drowned out any excuse he was planning to provide.

It's Night.
Night Ends: Friday, February 21st, at 5:00pm EST
Sweet dreams.
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crackerjack
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 10:07 pm    Post subject: 86 Reply with quote

So was rm good or bad or are we not allowed to know?
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Quailman
His Postmajesty



PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 10:19 pm    Post subject: 87 Reply with quote

townie - see the first post
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:30 am    Post subject: 88 Reply with quote

(First off, my apologies. I hate delaying games, but i had an unexpected burst in my social life friday, and then got to work all day today. Funfun, i must say. Anyways..)

Crackerjack had been doing his best to do what he was born to do. It was in his blood. His father's father was a bodyguard, his father was a bodyguard, and, of course, he had to be a bodyguard. However, crackerjack never had become that good at his job. Somewhat disappointed at not being of any use, espically when his own home town was in such peril, he decided to take the night off (go figure) - and took a stroll through the Bombsville park. However, while crackerjack was enjoying the beautiful starry night sky, more sinister forces were at work. Crackerjack was so preoccupied by the beautiful display of twinkling lights, that he failed to awknowledge the figure that had been stalking him for quite some time. Alas, crackerjack was blind even to the grenade that was hurled in his direction from behind. ..He did, however, notice (even if it was just for a few split seconds) the sheering pain as grenade shrapnel exploded into his spine. He fell, torn, bloodied, and dieing.

Dawn broke, and when the town members finally mustered the courage to retreat from their homes, they found crackerjack deceased.

It's day. Seven citizens left alive. Four to lynch.
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quercitron
Don't trust Robinson



PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 12:51 am    Post subject: 89 Reply with quote

Beaudoin - innocent by jesternl, ?
jesternl - claims Cop (K-9 Patrol)
Quailman - ?
quercitron - innocent by jesternl, ?
RubberDuck - ?
Sparticus - looks pretty blatantly masonish to me
Trevize - ?
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RubberDuck
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:13 am    Post subject: 90 Reply with quote

Why did you put a ? mark by your own name Quercitron?
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quercitron
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:14 am    Post subject: 91 Reply with quote

Because I have not claimed an actual role.
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Beaudoin
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:19 am    Post subject: 92 Reply with quote

It also makes sense from an outside perspective. We don't know if jesternl is sane or not, or if he really is a cop at all. Meaning, we can't really put any objective weight on his investigations.

Somehow we'd need to confirm his sanity/legitimacy. Which, unfortunately, means he'd have to come out with a mafia if he found one, which means we lynch them, which will *probably* lose the game for us if he's wrong or stringing us along. If he doesn't have a mafia, well, we lynch one of the (unknowns) or no-lynch. Both of which will probably kill the town.
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jesternl
Yankee Doodle Dutchie



PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:38 am    Post subject: 93 Reply with quote

well.. at least I know my dog's nose isn't completely shot.. he found exposives in Quailman's house.
Care to explain Quailman?
a full hand of suspicion: Quailman
Not an outright vote, since I didn't get a result that actualy said he's mafia/bad, just that my dog found explosives...
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RubberDuck
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 8:24 am    Post subject: 94 Reply with quote

Would i be right in saying there's roughly 2 mafia in this game?
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quercitron
Don't trust Robinson



PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:48 pm    Post subject: 95 Reply with quote

You might. On the other hand, if there's a Cop and two Docs, as well as Masons, 2 Mafia seems a little unbalanced. I'm leaning towards three. Or perhaps there's something about the Docs we don't know, like they blow themselves up, or jesternl is not a perfectly sane Cop. Well, Quailman? Want to talk? Here's a bit of help. Vote: Quailman

1/4 votes. Remember, don't lynch him yet.
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Quailman
His Postmajesty



PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:54 pm    Post subject: 96 Reply with quote

I am a Vigilante. I have one hand grenade that I brought home with me after the war. It had been a souvenir gathering dust, but after the trouble started, I remembered that I have it, and I am waiting for the right time to use it. I obviously couldn't use it the first night, and I didn't have anyone I suspected last night.

Your stupid dog smelled my hand grenade. Am I the only one in town who owns one?
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quercitron
Don't trust Robinson



PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 2:02 am    Post subject: 97 Reply with quote

Something doesn't seem right. I know I'm innocent. If jesternl and Quailman aren't lying, and the bad guys all have bombs which can be sniffed out, making jesternl sane, then we have the following situation.

Beaudoin - innocent by jesternl, ?
jesternl - claims Cop (K-9 Patrol)
Quailman - claims Vigilante (war veteran)
quercitron - innocent by jesternl, Townie
RubberDuck - ?
Sparticus - looks pretty blatantly masonish to me
Trevize - ?

That leaves only RD and Trevize to be the bad guys, unless there's a Godfather (and that would be Beaudoin, because I'm innocent. And hell, I'll just get it over with, I'm a Townie. I was hoping that by being vague and spooky, combined with my analysis, that I could get the Mafia to hit me at night, leaving valuable roles alone, but it hasn't seemed to work.)

Now, if this is right, then the Town had a mason group, two docs, a cop, and a vigilante against two Mafia. Seems a little unbalanced to me.

Therefore, I conclude that either Beaudoin is Godfather, which I still don't think is fair, or one of Quailman and/or jesternl is lying.

Here's what I propose. If there's another Vigilante, come out now. Then we can decide what to do with Quail and how to manage possible Vigilante night kills, and we'll do some analysis. If there's another Cop, come out now. Then we can decide who has a more believable role.

Also, this will get everyone talking.

So far the following have not claimed roles:

Beaudoin (my gut feeling: Townie)
RubberDuck
Sparticus (my gut feeling: Bomb Squad Member, mason)
Trevize

We need to analyze today. We can't just sit back and sail through a lynch.

Unvote: Quailman, for now.
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Beaudoin
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 2:54 am    Post subject: 98 Reply with quote

I doubt that the bodyguards were full doctors. Most likely, they took the hit for the target player and either died or had some sort of restriction placed upon them. I'm also inclined to believe Quailman's claim. I have my reasons, which I'd rather not say right now.
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RubberDuck
You're the one



PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 4:22 am    Post subject: 99 Reply with quote

A vigilante? That doesnt seem right for a 12 player game and there's only been one kill each night.
Have you been saving up your grenades
Vote:Quailman
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quercitron
Don't trust Robinson



PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 4:23 am    Post subject: 100 Reply with quote

Vigilantes don't kill every night, and he said he only had one grenade.

Read the thread. As an impetus to read the thread, vote: RD. We can't afford people not paying attention, so if you're a Townie, give some analysis, and if you're scum, then this isn't a bad vote, is it?
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RubberDuck
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 4:40 am    Post subject: 101 Reply with quote

Well if you take my role out of the possible scum list that only leaves Trevise and i extremely doubt that there is only one mafia and you said your self that there would be about 3, So that means one of us is lying through our teeth, but yes i hadnt noticed he said he only had one grenade,

The only people who haven't talked today is sparticus and trevise.


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quercitron
Don't trust Robinson



PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 4:49 am    Post subject: 102 Reply with quote

That's actual reasoning, which is all I wanted to promote. So, what do we do? RD isn't counterclaiming. That leaves Trev. Hey Trev, speak up. Unvote: RD.
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RubberDuck
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 4:53 am    Post subject: 103 Reply with quote

After looking at the deaths i think this is the most likely role setup, it seems to be in sets of 3:

1:Town-Magus(Dead)
2:Town-ralphmerridew(Dead)
3:Town-???
4:Freelance Bodyguard-MacadamiamaN(Dead)
5:Freelance Bodyguard-crackerjack(Dead)
6:Freelance Bodyguard-???
7:Bomb Squad Member-KingPin(Dead)
8:Bomb Squad Member-Sparticus???
9:Bomb Squad Member-???
10:Mafia-???
11:Mafia-???
12:Mafia-???
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Sparticus
Spourk's Insignificant Other



PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 4:37 pm    Post subject: 104 Reply with quote

RubberDuck, that means you think jesternl is lying. Which is not necessarily a bad thing.

As querci stated, if jesternl and Quailman are both telling the truth, that makes for a two mafia game with Trevize and RubberDuck. I doubt that. I think Quailman's role is a bit iffy...

Agh! This is rather mindwracking, and I don't know who to suspect. Either jesternl or Quailman is lying, and we need to figure out who...

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In my dice bag, I've got dice you've never even heard of. I have a d5, d7, d14, d16...I think I've even got a d1.
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jesternl
Yankee Doodle Dutchie



PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 5:32 pm    Post subject: 105 Reply with quote

I think Quailman's role is a bit too iffy actually Sparticus...
I don't think there is a vigilante type role, that would make the balance shift way too much to the townside.
There isn't an SK to counter that, I think it's a very simple setup. One cop(Maybe two) two (or three mafia) two or three bodyguard (more than one to counter the fact that they cannot prevent a kill, they just take the hit) and the rest is townies.

Therefor: Vote: Quailman, mafiascum
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Beaudoin
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 5:38 pm    Post subject: 106 Reply with quote

There's also a third possibility we haven't discussed: quercitron is the mafia Godfather. Godfathers usually are immune to investigation until they're the last one, so he'd naturally come up as innocent to jesternl.

For some reason, I'm inclined to believe both jesternl and Quailman. For one, jesternl managed to sniff out a bomb on an alleged killing role. This seems a little convenient for it to be a fake claim. In addition, no one's counterclaimed against jesternl. As for Quailman, I have my ideas on him, but like I said I'd rather not go further unless I absolutely have to.
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 7:28 pm    Post subject: 107 Reply with quote

The day had started out normal enough: With another town member dead, the remaining citizens gathering together at the town hall. There, they took up their discussing, shouting, arguing and the like over who would be the best candidate to blow to smitherines (for the good of the town, no doubt).

Today, however, was different.

Quailman had made sure everything was A-okay; nothing could go wrong, no flaws were to meddle into his equation. It's a shame nobody noticed that he seemed to be a little bit bulkier than the norm. That is - until he threw off his leather jacket, exposing his bare chest strung with explosives.

Discussion came to a halt.

Simultaneously, everyone took in a breath, each frozen in fear at this new revelation. Not wanting his surprise advantage to be wasted, Quailman ran towards Sparticus. Nobody moved to stop him, or tried to push Sparticus out of the way. Sparticus himself was glued to the spot. Quailman tackled Sparticus, and pinned him to the ground. Just then, everything clicked in the town's brain, and the surrounding people ran for their lives.

Quailman gave out a triumphet laugh, pushed his thumb on a red button, and became a human fireball; taking Sparticus out with him. Everyone else, fearing for their personal safety, had already fled to their houses. Nobody dared to come out for the rest of the day. All the while, Quailman's and Sparticus' bodies burned to a black crisp, nobody daring to go out to even put out the flames.

It's night.
Night Ends: Thursday, February 27th, at 5:00pm EST
Don't let the bed bugs bite.
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Ghost of Sparticus
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 9:13 pm    Post subject: 108 Reply with quote

Uh huh, yeah. Thanks for the help guys.

Go town!

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jesternl
Yankee Doodle Dutchie



PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 1:15 pm    Post subject: 109 Reply with quote

*wakes up,opens eyes... sees noone around just yet....falls back to sleep..*
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Werebear
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 3:34 pm    Post subject: 110 Reply with quote

GC - the answer is yes, please email info.
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 7:18 pm    Post subject: 111 Reply with quote

Poor Beaudoin. Poor, poor Beaudoin. He had tried so hard (well.. sort've) to do the town good; but, for some reason or another, he had never been able to do his duty properly. Either he would get the call about another victum way too late, or his ambulence driver would wisk him off to the wrong address. It was quite unfortunate, because he had never been able to save a soul in his town. And, as it turned out, there was nobody else left to save him as a grenade was tossed towards his house; crashing through his bedroom window, and exploding on his slumbering figure.

The following morning, when Beaudoin didn't show up to the town hall, the remaining citizens took a quick trip over to his house and found what they expected: Beaudoin's dead carcass. Alas.

Someone did, however, point out that Trevize was looking mighty different. A new haircut or something. He even went out of his way to rename himself "Werebear." Go figure.

It's day. 4 citizens left alive. Three to lynch.
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jesternl
Yankee Doodle Dutchie



PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 7:43 pm    Post subject: 112 Reply with quote

That transformation is not going to fool us. My dog still found explosives at his place.
Vote: Trevize/Werebear mafia scum
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Werebear
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 9:34 pm    Post subject: 113 Reply with quote

boy, bango, start the day replacing Trevise as a townie, and jesternl jumps on me. Go ahead if you wish, jesternl, but would you care to place a friendly sum of perhaps, say, $100 on whether or not I'm a townie? I say I am. You say I'm not. Should be a good bet - are we on?
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RubberDuck
You're the one



PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:20 am    Post subject: 114 Reply with quote

If quercitron was right about there being 3 mafia i think we've lost the game already werebear,They'll lynch one of us and kill the other during the night.
But if he was wrong, I dont know whats going to happen.
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quercitron
Don't trust Robinson



PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:23 am    Post subject: 115 Reply with quote

If there are still two Mafia the game should be over; there's no way they'll let a majority happen against them today. So therefore there's only one. It's either jesternl or Trevbear, or jesternl is some type of weird cop who is only right sometimes (he was right about Beaudoin, me, and Quailman. But Quailman's role was designed to suicide, so it could have been a careful Mafia plot.)

RD, you might as well claim a role other than Townie if you have one, it can only add to analysis.

I'm not going to vote yet; I think we should be careful still, and I have a sinking feeling about jesternl being scum.
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RubberDuck
You're the one



PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:38 am    Post subject: 116 Reply with quote

I am the third and final member of the Bomb Squad, thats how we came up with the groups in sets of three, But that screwed up when Quailman turned out to be a suicide bomber.

So we have...

Beaudoin - innocent by jesternl,?
jesternl - claims Cop (K-9 Patrol)?
quercitron - innocent by jesternl, Townie ?
RubberDuck - Bomb Squad Member ?
Trevize/Werebear - Bets money on being a Townie ?

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jesternl
Yankee Doodle Dutchie



PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:54 am    Post subject: 117 Reply with quote

Well I'll bet the money in here..
And I see another way this could en.. either there is only one more mafia, Werebear, or two more. I haven't let my dog sniff RubberDuck yet, he can be the last one, or Querci is, maybe in some sort of Godfather role, I don't know. But I know my results are right, Quailman being mafia proved that for me.
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quercitron
Don't trust Robinson



PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 1:21 am    Post subject: 118 Reply with quote

I believe RD.

Vote: Trevbear
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Werebear
Daedalian Member



PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 1:24 am    Post subject: 119 Reply with quote

I always honor bets. And the bet is there for the taking. I hate to say this, but I haven't even read the entire game yet, only the first page and this page... I'm going to have to sit down and read the whole thing.
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 3:00 am    Post subject: 120 Reply with quote

Well, the day was short. Extremely short. Though it could have been longer, it was very apparent that Werebear was doomed to die. It was the town's decree. ..Right?

The idenity-confused Werebear/Trevize had always been a gambler - even making bets when his life was on the line. Alas, not even one last gamble could save his life. The town, knowing all too well as to what to do, dragged Werebear down to the alter of sacrifice, and shoved a few sticks of dynomite into his mouth. A few minutes later (not to mention several hundred feet away, as well), the remaining three citizens of the town watched the explosion that was once the great and mighty Werebear.

The sun was setting, and the trio that remained decided to actually take a gander into Werebear's house. After sifting through the usual paperwork and porn, they came to the sad conclusion that they had killed yet another simple townsperson. So there was nothing all that special about Werebear after all. Go figure.

As the three were leaving Werebear's property, Rubberduck turned to the duo, about to question them as to how they were to spend their night - perhaps exchange a few safety tips here and there. Jesternl and Quercitron looked to the dipping sun, then to each other, and then back to the sinking horizon.

"Screw it, i want to kill someone for once." Words from none other than Quercitron's lips. He pulled out a 9mm (how very un-bomberville like, i must add), and drilled a few metalic bullets into Rubberduck's chest cavity.

Poor Ruberduck never saw it coming - in fact, the last thing he did see, was the sun setting on Bombersville for one last time.

The mafia has won.

(End game roles, etc. shortly)
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