Dilbert Mafia {Boss Mafia - Wins}

[quercitron]

1. I'm Nauplius.

2. There's obviously two killers out there. One kills by crossbow bolt, and we haven't gotten rid of the other from before (the work smarter not harder killer.) Why haven't we gotten rid of him? Because we lynched one of two Elbonians, so if they are evil there is still one out there, and if they are good then we haven't lynched the killer. And RSA, who died overnight, was certainly not the killer.

3. Since there are two killers, if the Town lynches one of them the other one wins overnight by killing someone off. Therefore, today the Town must either nolynch or lynch a Townsperson.

This is a standard 4 man endgame with 2 Town, 2 bad guys in different groups. There cannot be just one evil player left, and there can't be two in the same group.

I could make up a story here about why my previous incarnation claimed Elbonian, when that was a fricking retarded move on his part, but I won't. I won't bother telling you my real role either, I'm sure you all have a pretty good idea. I could try to claim Alice, but as we've already established, Alice isn't in this game.

If wordcross is evil, I fully expect him to say "What! I'm Alice, blah blah blah ass" and vote for me. Corsato already has, because he is misjudging the endgame. So that leaves FF, the last Elbonian. Please consider before you do anything. If I am lynched, the Town loses. Only evil people want the Town to lose.

One last point. You may be wondering why I'm putting forth a scenario for the Town to win. Very simple. I'd rather see the Town win than a Mafia group, and I don't want to die yet.

That's all.

q

[Faeriefire]

I am wondering a few things right now.

-Why was only one person killed? Does Wordcross actually have doctor powers as he claimed?
-And how much weight should we put on what Corsato wedgied out of him? Was the effectiveness of your powers diminished more because RSA died that same night?

I'd like to see what Wordcross says before I vote for anyone.

[Kazooish]

Mod comment - At the time of the wedgie 2/3 cops were alive, RSA died after the wedgie was administered.

[quercitron]

Player comment. Although Corsato's position as last Cop is not in doubt, the Mod should not confirm players' roles or innocence within a game while they are living.

[Corsato]

Unvote: Quercius/Nauplitron
Let's not get hasty. I agree with the logic presented by Quercitron, though I believe two scenario's are possible.
1) Quercitron and Faeriefire are evil
2) Quercitron and Wordcross are evil

Scenario 1 is were we lynch someone, and hope the doc protects a player tonight.
Scenario 2 is were we do not lynch and hope that everything turns out ok.

[Kazooish]

ok ya im sorry about that quer, normally i wouldnt have done that.

But as there are 4 people left
Everyone has agreed that he is a cop
A now "deceased" cop confirmed that he is a cop and on the deceased cops team.

i figured it was pretty safe to say that, if RSA hadnt died, i wouldnt have said anything, as there would be the chance there both lieing....etc

sorry if that bugged you quer, wont do that again.

[quercitron]

Exactly why does there have to be a Doc? Perhaps the other killer chose not to kill.

[wordcross]

I'm rather confused over the part where we established that Alice is not in the game... Maybe i missed it. Corsato/RSA investigated me and came up with a "motivational lier boss" role. I find it strange that you would choose to believe that they are correct over the fact that Alice, a very major character in Dilbert, is not in the game.

I actually protected Corsato, who was more vocal than RSA, but it looks like FF didn't try to kill anyone. Not surprising if she wanted to quickly lynch Naup/Querc and win tonight. Then my doctor ability wouldn't help, since She'd just kill me first and leave Corsato for the next day.

But it seems that Querc caught that and has now made it defunct. Well done scum.

But the way i see it, a No lynch today would work just as well as with two bad vs one good. Neither of the evil roles can trust the other not to kill him/her off while they kill a townie. It comes down to what they believe the other person will do. Here's a No Lynch breakdown:

1) Both townies die tonight-Evil tie.

2) Only One townie dies-Two evil vs one good, repeat insecurity that night.

3) One townie and an evil role dies-One evil vs. one good, evil wins.

4) Both evil die-Town wins

5) One evil dies-Two good vs one bad, Town wins.

6) No one dies, re-do this list

I can do the most good as a doc if we no-lynch today. It's a strange scenario, and i'd have to gamble on which way i think Querc and FF will go.

1) It's *possible* that We could do this over again if they choose Corsato and i protect him.
2) If they kill me, it's up in the air as to who wins.
3) If they try to kill each other, and I protect one of them, then it would be two good against one bad, we(town) win.
4) If one of them kills the other, and the other attacks corsato, and i protect corsato, it's again two good vs one bad, we win. If the other targets me, the last evil role wins.
5) If one attacks the other, whom i protect, and the other attacks either myself or corsato, it goes to two bad vs. one good, up in the air.

So it looks like i may be able to do some good if we no lynch.
Querc has already said he wants town to win, which is a bunch of bull. He just doesn't want to be lynched today, and he knows that lynching a bad guy is in the interst of the other evil role.

If you, for some reason, don't believe that I'm Alice, then that means you think i'm evil boss man and by Querc's own argument you shouldn't lynch me. Same goes if you do think i'm Alice, but i'm evil.

if you think i'm doc role Alice, then either vote no lynch or lynch me and send the game directly into two bad vs. three good.

Vote: No lynch

[quercitron]

Hmm. No, wordcross is probably telling the truth about Alice, now that I reconsider. And the Elbonians are actually evil after all. Who would've thunk it.

Okay, wordcross. Protect Corsato. I'm going to nokill tonight.

Vote: no lynch

[wordcross]

you do realize, querc, that your claim of not wanting to kill tonight is not going to affect my choice tonight? I have no way of knowing if you are being honest or not, so i have to go by what i think will benefit you most and try to stop it.

[Faeriefire]

Hey! With no possible hard evidence to back me up, I'm good! Believe me!! I didn't send in a choice because there's no choice to send!!!

If Wordcross is good, and then the reason there was only one kill is because Nau/Quer is the only scum left!

Consider the possibility, please!

[wordcross]

there is not possiblitiy. We know that RSA was a cop role, and he's the only one who died last night. We knew that there were two evil roles left yesterday, because of the two overnight kills, and since there has not been an extermination of any group or individual baddie, there must still be two left.

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I'm not an actor, but i play one on TV.
GLih8evilstuff: I hope you never call me, my caller ID would explode.
I don't suffer from insanity, i enjoy every minute of it.

[Faeriefire]

Well, what if the trolls were the "work harder not smarter" group? Maybe things got tangled up and Amb ended up killing himself? It might not sound plausible, but it could be true.

I wouldn't be trying to push the issue so hard if I were evil. You obviously have your mind set against me, but read this the Elbonians are not evil!!!

I'm just the surviving member of a mason group. No frills, nothing. I have no abilities, I only started with the knowledge of the innocence of two others: Quiller and Sparticus.

And really, how can you prove that you are innocent as well Wordcross? I'd really like to know that. Anyone can say they protected Corsato last night, but there's no proof.

[Kazooish]

vote count: 2 no lynch


3 is majority

[wordcross]

I have no proof. I never claimed to have proof. All i can say is that i'm Alice, and there's no reason not to believe that. Whether or not you believe me to be evil is another matter completely. I say that i'm innocent, but i'm not worried about proving it because there's no point without proof.

[Faeriefire]

Well, I really don't see anything else happening.
Vote: No Lynch

[Kazooish]

a sock puppet goes to marketing.....wow those guys are idiots......

its nightime lets see who lives through the night!

[Bear Skin Rug]

Marketing Guy 1: Hey, you see the new guy that just came in?
Marketing Guy 2: Yeah, are you thinking what I'm thinking?
Marketing Guy 1: If we don't slow him down, he's going to work all of us out of a job.
Sock Puppet: ...

[Ghost of Sparticus]

bumpity quality bumpity

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I was Sparticus.

[Kazooish]

the night will end sometime sunday, if i dont have your choice by sunday then too bad.

[Kazooish]

(so sorry this is taking so long, gotten really busy over the last few days with all sorts of stuff, and just havent really had a lot of spare time.)

Day breaks....

You find Nauplius(and his sub) wandering the building holding a cross bow, mumbling "Work smarter not harder"....clearly the Secretary with a crossbow is beyond insane, and useless to this game, and might as well be dead.

3 left....2 to lynch....

Good luck

[wordcross]

gah, he really did no-kill! Bastard. Why couldn't he get rid of FF and save us the trouble?

Vote: FaerieFire

Both of you know i have to vote this way to survive, whether you think i'm evil or not. And we all know FF will vote for me so that she can survive. It's Corsato's call today. With one evil role and two good roles, it's all or nothing for town. We can't no-lynch, because the scum would take one out tonight and the other the next night. I have to say that I'm innocent, simply so that i cannot be accused of not trying to save the town, but we all know who has to make the choice.

[Corsato]

[OFFTOPIC]Ah, such pressure on my shoulder. Remembers me of Simpson maf [/OT]

Anyway, I did a wedgie on wordcross, and he seems to be Ratbert at the moment. Must be the descreasing quality of my wedgies. Anyway, either Wordcross or FairieFire is evil scum. I used to think that Elbonians were evil, but I'm not so sure anymore. And 'work harder not smarter' fits perfectly in the 'motivational liar boss' role we got yesterday. Then again, that would mean that Alice, one of the leading characters, is not in this game.

Must....think....harder.....

[Beartalon]

PHB: Think smarter, not harder.

[Bear Skin Rug]

Last week the PHB told us not to think at all.

[Beartalon]

*from the depths of marketing*
Sometimes, Bear Skin Rug, I make it easier to maintain status quo.

[Faeriefire]

Vote: Wordcross

I've already done what I can to try to convince you of my innocence. Nothing more I can say.

[Ghost of Sparticus]

The room turns dark as a light shines on Corsato. We hear some Jeopardy music come up...

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I was Sparticus.

[Ghost Post]

Hmmm...too bad my powers of enlightenment can't help beyond the grave

-Phil

[Corsato]

I've read the thread a few times, but I'm unable to find anything on both of you.
So I go with my first thoughts:
Vote: Faeriefir

[Ghost of Sparticus]

howls in utter frustration

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I was Sparticus.

[Faeriefire]

Bah . . . now I am dead.

Good job Wordcross, you've won.

[wordcross]

No, we've won. Corsato and I....

ah who'm i kidding? I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *sticks tongue out out clueless innocents* *dances on pile of corpses*

[This message has been edited by wordcross (edited 01-27-2003 10:59 PM).]

[Kazooish]

Thus ends dilbert mafia, with the bosses somehow winning.


Congratulations Boss Mafia, The Motivational Lier Boss Wins for you all.

I would like to start by apalogizing for forgetting alice, i cant believe i did that. I will post all roles, with what they did, and a full play by play to some extent of what happened, sometime in the next 48 hours. Until that comes up, anyone whos still following the game or anything, please rate my modding abilities, and give suggestions and stuff, eventually when school work winds down (probably closer to summer) i want to do another mafia of some sort....but i want it to be better than this....no big problems with this game though?...

[wordcross]

*cackles insanely*

[Kazooish]

And here is my Almight Role list!

Feast your eyes upon it!

Role Description and name

Dilbert - Random 2/6 chance protect 3/6 chance investigate 1/6 chance kill

Pointy Haired Boss - Managment Mafia leader

Wally - Random 2/6 chance protect 2/6 chance investigate 2/6 chance kill

Fraud boss - Management Mafia

Motivational Lier Boss - Management Mafia

Rat Bert - Doctor

Dog Bert - Cop

Tina The Tech Writer - follow 1 person each night, die if they die

Secretary with crossbow - Seriel Killer

Dawn - 1/3rd of dino cop(s)

Phil - Darn one person - they cant vote for the day

Bob - 1/3rd and leader of dino cop(s)

Elbonian - Town Mason

Rex - 1/3rd dino cop

Asok - Doctor

Elbonian - Town Mason

Catbert - SK

Elbonian - Town Mason

Troll 1 - Leader of troll mafia

Troll 2 - Troll mafia

There are your roles, without names, names can be found on the first page, when they died. Wordcross Was the Motovational liar boss , and corsato was the remaining dino who wasnt dead, Rex.

Notes on roles: Dino's if all were alive had a 100% chance of getting hte investigation accurate.

2 dinos allive would be a 2/3rd chance of it being correct 1/3rd chance of it being an incorrect role given

1 dino alive 1/3rd chance correct 2/3rd chance incorrect

All this was done using dice

The wally and dilbert characters worked using dice, they chose a target each nice, i rolled a dice, and then the next day everyone finds out what happens. Thought it would be an interesting idea.

Any other questions? feel free to ask, ill post a play by play type thing sometime soon....once again within 48 hours...(probably in the next hour unless i got to bed or something)

[Beartalon]

w00t! w00t! w00t! wordcross, PuzzleProdigy and me! Boss Mafia Wins!

[Amb]

Beartalon - you dont win cos I personally sent you to marketing

* Bwahahahaha *

[Corsato]

Ahhhh, bah @ me.
How could I be so stupid?? We actually had the correct result in night 5.

And congrats to the bosses (especially Wordcross), you played well.

[Werebear]

First night I got Beartalon as PHB. Second night, I protected Corsato. Third night, I accidentally killed. *sigh*