GME Game 1, Status: Game Over, SK AMB wins

[TANSTAAFL]

I'm going to follow the self-proclaimed cop. If he was wrong then we know what to do tomorrow. vote: polotet

[Werebear]

amb... The reason everyone's not jumping on Polotet is because querci's only argument against him is he's not on the "innocent" list. HOWEVER...

Right now we're looking at 3/9 of our remaining players being killers.
If Quercitron is to be believed, he knows 2, and I'm a mason (hoping I'm not one of the ones he's investigated)

That means querci knows four town out of nine players, and of the remaining five, three would be guilty. Not the worst odds I've ever seen. If querci reveals the names, then the town knows who's innocent, and can choose more wisely tomorrow. However, the chances of the killers killing themselves is much much less.

I say no reveal, and I'm leaving it up to quercitron to decide if he wants to lynch Polotet, or move to the next target.

If quercitron is mafia, we're kinda screwed.

So far, in four lynches, the town has gotten two serial killers, a mafia, and one doc. A really really good record, as lynches go. But the number of killings is still out of control... we had, what, 7 night 2, and that's after lynching a SK?

[jesternl]

I'm just laying low AMB, but thanks for the analasys.
Let's do some more musing....:
What families (or other groups that know eachother) do we have in this game?:
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bad side
Ancalagon - Genovese Family
??- Genovese Family

Antrax - Leopald Family
Samadhi - Leopald Family

Ih8_evil_stuff - Pastrami Family
Courk - Pastrami Family
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Good side
xer0x - Poker Player
Trevize - Poker Buddy
Werebear - Pokerplayer?

Sparticus - Bodyguard
Soothsayer/Vegt - Bodyguard

Porro - Priest
Polotet - Claims other priest
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So it stands to reason there's at least one other mafia member and one priest.
We also have the serial killer who leaves poems, the serial killer who uses kitchen aids.
Jadesmole seems to have been the Clue Killer.

Then there are the pokerplayers (werebear claims only three in post 176)

There might also be a prostitute, as suggested by the pimp.

Originally posted by Ralph in post 265:

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Evidence about my own innocence: I identified Samadhi as the prostitute, which should show that I have investigative ability

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However, Samadhi turned out to be Leopald family, and nowhere is a mention that he was actually recruited.


amb - NOT pokerplayer (post 264)
GARM
jesternl
Lucresia/wordcross
Polotet - Priest?
quercitron - Cop?
TANSTAAFL
The Critic/RSA
Werebear - pokerplayer

We had three kills last night, and one of them must've been done by either Polotet or Quercitron.

I will go with the cop (standard procedure), and if he was wrong, we'll have him the next day.

Sorry about being somewhat disconnected in this post, I was jsut collecting information, without really sorting it all the way.

Vote: Polotet

[Polotet]

Yeah, it's really likely that there would be two or more priests in one game. Right. Oh, wait, no it isn't. I definitely would have claimed a much more likely role if I were lying. I will reveal the last piece of information, if it will help, but I'm probably dead anyway. I can hide in the church every other night and protect myself from kills. I can do that tonight, so one good role will have instant protection. But I don't understand why I or Quercitron has to be evil. More likely, we're both good and the other three (there's me, Quercitron, Werebear, and the two Quercitron's cleared). I'll move on to another non-cleared player and randomly vote: Jesternl (well, it's a bit of an OMGUS, and he's been flying under the radar, which is an occasional scum tactic.

[Amb]

Well that leaves me between a rock and a hard place. I believe Jesternl is scum, but there is also Querci claiming cop whilst saying vote Polotet.

Confirm Vote Polotet

And Jesternl, unless we get incriminating info on someone else, im voting you tommorow.

[jesternl]

Well Amb, I'm sure with that comment the remaining cop(s) will know who to investigate. And conveniently not be able to check you while they're at it, right?
I'm not afraid of being investigated, I have nothing to hide.

[Polotet]

Amb- Quercitron voted for me randomly out of the people he hadn't checked. Why continue to vote me after my claim, when you know he has no special info regarding me?

[GARM]

Um Polotet in case you haven't been reading but there is more than just amb voting for you...why pick on him?

I am inclined to believe your role claim, even though my initial hunch was on you.

At least tomorrow we should have more info from Q. By the way a Dr should protect Q tonight...not that I really should need to say that.

[Polotet]

Because amb had just posted, GARM.

[Amb]

Well the way I read this...

Originally posted by Q:

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This is going nowhere, so I might as well give the killers a reason to target me. I'm a Cop, proven sane to my own satisfaction through investigations. I have two innocents. Polotet is not one of them, so Vote: Polotet. I'm unwilling to give the names out when there can still be three kills in one night.

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Was that Q had two innocents and one guilty, that one being polotet.

On re-reading I now wonder if that is what he meant.

Unvote Polotet
FOS Polotet

Quercitron can you please clarify your statement. Did you find Polotet guilty or are you simply picking from your not proven innocent list.

[Werebear]

*bonks amb on the head with a TRS-80* That's what we've been trying to say, that our self-proclaimed cop picked someone from a list of uninvestigated. "I have two innocents. Polotet is not one of them" does not mean "I have two investigated, one is innocent, one is not".

We have to decide whether to believe he's a priest, or pick on someone else.

[Neo]

Marker
5 to lynch, 3 at deadline

3 Polotet (jesternl, quercitron, TANSTAAFL)
2 jesternl (GARM, Polotet)

[Neo]

A rather smallish lynch mob forms, you might call it a lynch gathering, or a lynch group instead, and string up Polotet, who of course tries to fight back, but there are just enough to subdue him and get his head through the noose.

"Last words?"

"Our Father who art in heaggghggglle...."

The sheep realize that they've lynched their spiritual leader Priest Polotet, and a blind rage envelopes the town, they search for the one responsible for this, THERE HE IS!

Quercitron is seized and trampled and shot and beaten and then hung for good measure. You search his body and out drops a .38 special, Mafia Issue.

Priest Polotet and Quercitron Leopald have been lynched. It is night, send choices by Saturday.

[This message has been edited by Neo (edited 02-06-2003 12:30 AM).]

[Polotet]

Well that was odd.

[quercitron]

Bah. I would so have had this (presuming I survived the night.) Oh well.

[This message has been edited by Neo (edited 02-06-2003 06:15 PM).]

[Ghost Post]

You Leopalds keep saying that after you die.

[ghost of quercitron]

Yeah, they should have called us the Arrogant Family .

[Neo]

Dawn came. And the people slept.
Breakfast time comes, and the people get up, get dressed, etc. They wandered around. Then the town noticed that a key element in the forensic study of ralphmerridew's death was missing. The typewriter was gone. The town searched high and low for it, and when they found it it had ralphmerridew's name crossed out in blood, and typed in red ink was "ThEre AinT No SuCH thINg As A fR33 LunCh" and TANSTAAFL Leopald's naked body tied to ralphmerridews semi rotten corpse. Not all a nice scene, and it was guaranteed that the local dairy wouldnt be selling many meat pies this day. Some of you notice a wound on her leg that appears to have been healed by a doctor, but you shrug it off.

As quick as TANSTAAFL's killer was, they weren't quick enough to halt the murder of Dr. GARM. You don't even bother to be upset this time, as you bury him in the special part of the cemetary reserved for doctors.

TANSTAAFL Leopald and Dr. GARM have been killed. It is day. 3 to lynch.

[Werebear]

Right now I'm wondering if there's any other town, or if I'm in the middle of a bunch of killers jockeying for position.

5 left. Role claims, everyone?

amb
jesternl
Lucresia/wordcross
The Critic/RSA
Werebear - last townie *grin* (poker playing mason)

[Amb]

Vote Jesternl

I still read his posts through the thread as scummy. I have lost games in this position numerically because I didnt have the guts to back my instincts. Anyway

Im a doctor as well. GARM picked it right all those posts ago. My protections however dont seem to work - something I learnt when ralphmerridew died - I was protecting him that night. It doesnt mean they fail always but Im very much afraid they probably do - but - I dont know (and at Neo for refusing to answer me when I IM him on this ). Im guessing that Neo will reveal at the end that all doctors had limitations to compensate for the huge amount of them. I do believe my doctor chaining idea would have worked, but too little too late and I regret not thinking of it earlier.

Werebear I do hate to say this, but you cannot be confirmed innocent now because there remains the possibility of you being recruited by a mafia group. I will need to go back and check up on the mafia families and when each recruiter died before I can totally decide to join with you. I do admit there is much more chance of you being innocent than anyone else. But if you turn out to be scum and win the game for your team, then I bow to you, that would be a brilliant tactical plan.

[Amb]

Now this is interesting. Im doing a scum-analysis and I have found something even worse than Jesternl's potential scumminess.

Lucresia/WordCross
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Post 46: "no idea.." (in response to what a vengeful townie is)
Post 68 "Vote: SaberKitty Until I see a reason to unvote her." Bandwagonned SaberKitty (Vote number 7)
Post 160 "sure...what the hell vote:wearbear until I have a reason to unvote him." Bandwagonned Werebear (4th I think)
Post 169/170 Asked for back up of werebears claim
Post 187 Unvoted Werebear due to Trevize backing him up - if Luc is scum then she just dragged out another innocent to kill
WORDX replaced - But Trevize died that night - is it possible it was a mafia kill having now an innocent to hit? It is a possibility - except for the fact that Trevize appears to have been flung from a mangonel-using-SK so less likely that Wordx was involved.

But the thing I cant find is ANY posts by WordX since the replacement. Not one post? So what do we make of this.

The only other thing of note is Courk (Pastrami) voted Luc and then backed off around the time of Werebears bandwagon. Is it possible that Courk was doing a family vote. Probably unlikely, but who knows...

FOS Courk

[Amb]

and Im an idiot

FOS Lucresia/WordX
UnFOS dead Courk

[Amb]

Holy crapola does no-one in this town ever talk - its like playing 'blind, deaf and mute' mafia.

TheCritic/RSA
2 posts. 1 of which was a confirm.

The Critic: post 103 "Revenge FOS for Ancalagon. Do you know what it's like to be busy?"

And thats it. How the hell do you analyse that. We need verbosity rules for mafia - there is no way to win this gme game without fluke - as there is nothing to go on.... BAH.

[Werebear]

hey, I posted 12 hours ago, I need to sleep sometime.

Are you talking 2 posts TOTAL the whole game?!?

[jesternl]

Role claims? sure... If we don't lynch a baddie now we're F'ed.
I'm a cop. A random cop or so it seems.
I don't have all my inverstigation results with me, I am at work, but for the last two nights I inverstigated Amb. Yes, twice, since my results seemed odd.
I got him innocent the first night, and guilty the next. All my other results did were sometimes wrong, sometimes right.

I'm willing to go with Amb for now and believe he is a doctor. Werebear seems pretty well established as a pokerplayer, which leaves TheCritic/RSA as one SK and Lucresia/WordX as the other one.
That would also explain their lack of posts, simply lying low.

So therefore:
Vote: TheCritic/RSA, FOS: WordX/Lucresia

[Amb]

Originally posted by Werebear:

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Are you talking 2 posts TOTAL the whole game?!?

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Yes thats all I found - and that includes the confirm post. Worst case scenario I accidentally skimmed past a post, but otherwise yes 1 Game post the whole game. And RSA 0.

Vote RSA

[Amb]

and of course Unvote Jesternl

[Werebear]

Vote: RSA - vote TWO of THREE.

[jesternl]

Ehhh psssst werebear, that's three out of three...

[Werebear]

Bah, I read yours as "The Critic FOS RSA". Oh well, anyone posting that little deserves to die.

[Neo]

In one of the quickest days yet, the town attempts to lynch The Critic/RSA, who appears sleeping.

"He might be scum, poisonous to the touch!"

So somebody pokes her/him with a stick, and part of Critic/RSA disappears, along with the stick.

The town panics and throws a picnic bench and several other large objects at him/her, soon the "thing" is gone.

In other news, GARM has resurrected into Lucresia/Wordcross, now known as Lucresia/Wordcross/GARM

Anti-Doctor (town) The Critic/RSA is lynched. It is night, send choices.

[Werebear]

*holds head in paws*

[Neo]

The remnant of the town finds a house with the word "enigma" painted in blood on the door. When they enter they find a body with 52 playing cards nailed to them, a bloody mix of aces, royalty and 9s and under. Two cards lay face down on the floor, and on inspecting them it turns out they are both the jokers - or should I say Jesters, with a bloody N on one, and a bloody L on the other. The corpses identity was quickly solved to be that of Jesternl. The only other thing of note was that this deck had no hearts, spades or diamonds. He was clubbed to death.

However, Jesternl carried out one last action before his untimely death. It was the slowcooking of Poker Player Werebear, who's remains are found in rather large crockpot, already steamed to perfection.

It suddenly becomes all too clear to Dr. Lucresia/Wordcross/GARM.

"But I saved you! Many times!"

"And I thank you for helping me make mafia history," replied AMB, just before using a wrecking ball in the manner of a giant golf club, with Lucresia/Wordcross/GARM as the ball.

And so, the Rhyming Serial Killer AMB became the first player ever to win a game as an SK.

The game is over, SK AMB has won, roles and such will come after tonights basketball games. Discuss!

[Hitchhiker]

Congratulations amb! Tell us, is this really the first time a mafia game at the GL has been won by the serial killer? Now that you've destroyed a town and left havoc and destruction in your wake, are you going to Disney World? *holds out microphone*

[quercitron]

Bah.

[GARM]

But, but....but...I was so close

Oh Well

Well done AMB on being the first SK to ever win at Mafia. You are obviously a good player. AMB the history maker.

This GME game was the best game I have ever played. Heaps of action all the way thru. Sign me up for the next one.

[ralphmerridew]

IS managed to get a draw as an SK-ish (Dune Mafia), and win as an SK-ish (8 town, 1 doc, 1 SK) on mafiascum.

[Vegtable2001]

Dispite the fact that i lasted only an hour, i had a huge impact on this game. Go vegt!

[jesternl]

and I was so hoping I'd be that first SK to win.... I tried killing AMB two times I think ,I thought he had some sort of invulnerability, so I went for Werebear instead...

[Neo]

The Roles

Player	Original Role	Aquired Role
amb	Serial Killer	N/A
Ancalagon	Genovese	N/A
Antrax	Leopald	N/A
Corsato	Doctor	N/A
Courk	Doctor	Pastrami
crackerjack	Doctor	N/A
Degenerate	Doctor	N/A
Fezzik	Doctor	N/A
GARM	Doctor	N/A
Gaspode	Doctor	N/A
Hitchhiker	Cop (sane)	N/A
Ih8	Pastrami Family	N/A
jadesmar/mole	Serial Killer	N/A
Jeep	Pimp	N/A
jesternl	Serial Killer	N/A
Kazooish	Doctor	N/A
Lucresia/Wordcross/GARM.	Doctor	N/A
Polotet	Priest	N/A
Porro	Priest	N/A
PuzzleProdigy	Vengeful Townie	N/A
quercitron	Stressed Cop	Leopald
ralphmerridew	Wrathful Cop	N/A
SaberKitty	Serial Killer	N/A
Samadhi	Prostitute	Leopald
Soothsayer/Vegt	Bodyguard	N/A
Sparticus	Bodyguard	N/A
TANSTAAFL	Bodyguard	Leopald
The Critic/RSA	Anti-Doctor	N/A
Trevize	Poker Buddy	N/A
Werebear	Poker Buddy	N/A
xer0x	Poker Buddy	N/A

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Usually, I try to take one day at a time, but lately, several days have attacked me all at once.

[This message has been edited by Neo (edited 02-11-2003 11:03 PM).]