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Invasion Mafia GAME OVER - TOWN WINS
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Vegtable2001
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 8:50 pm    Post subject: 241 Reply with quote

Vote Kingpin
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! *Exits human form*
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KingPin
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 9:08 pm    Post subject: 242 Reply with quote

What? That is two right!

Veggie are you saying that you are alien scum? Damn you DB!
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KingPin
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 9:10 pm    Post subject: 243 Reply with quote

One other thing you might have noticed that I had said I would be out of town from May 7-May 10, so DB this is the reason I did not vote Xerox.
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Bear Skin Rug
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 1:13 am    Post subject: 244 Reply with quote

[b]Vote: Veg[\b]

Oh, wait, I'm dead, aren't I..... *haunts Veg*
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Darkblade
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 2:05 am    Post subject: 245 Reply with quote

Wait a second. 2 is not a majority, 3 is! The mod made a mistake.

Unvote: KingPin
Vote: Vege

You gloated too soon, and now you die.
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Vegtable2001
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 2:31 am    Post subject: 246 Reply with quote

Heh, actually i was joking. I think the mod will probably count the two majority anyways, but in case you care to look up the last mini mini maf game? If i honestly think somone is scum, then i don't think theres a point in doing a post saying your reasons, when you can do a post that makes everyone sweat for awhile, but otherwise does the exact same thing
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 2:36 am    Post subject: 247 Reply with quote

Please direct your attention to post 387
http://www.greylabyrinth.com/Forums/Forum15/HTML/000096-10.html
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Darkblade
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 10:36 am    Post subject: 248 Reply with quote

Unvote: Vege
Vote: KingPin


Always gotta be the center of attention 'eh?
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KingPin
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 11:52 am    Post subject: 249 Reply with quote

This is quite the funny outburst from our alien friend. But just so you know I am only a Doc.

Unvote DB
Vote Veg
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Sebastian
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 7:12 pm    Post subject: 250 Reply with quote

3 TO LYNCH (Sorry about the confusion)

Day 7 Vote Tally:

Non Voters:
The Levite

The Vote Tally:
Kinpin - 2 Votes - (Darkblade & Vegetable)
Vegetable - 1 Vote - (Kingpin)


3 to LYNCH

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KingPin
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 8:17 pm    Post subject: 251 Reply with quote

Unvote: Veggie
I am ready to fight for the win here!

Veggie, The Levite,
I will be addressing you from now on. DB is mafia/GF. I want you to think about somethings.
1.
Quote:
If I were mafia why would I build additions for TANS?

My logic here is this. TANSTAAFL/The Levite poses no threat to DB because as stated by The Levite he only investigates for Aliens. To prepare his claim later for his defense he needed to build an addition onto someones house right. So he builds an addition on to the only person he knows will not suspect him and cannot investigate him. This singular move gains him credibility from TL because as far as we know DB is only a "carpenter".

2.
DB then assails me for my choice in protection while he is doing exactly the same, protecting TANSTAAFL. His reasoning for making me out to be a bad doc is that someone died.
Quote:
If you were a Doc you would have been targeted
How exactly would a mafia set up someone more perfectly than to attack everyone but the doc.

3.
I have also been attacked because I did not vote for Xerox. Did anyone else see that in post 202 I said that I would be away from the boards on the days listed. Which happen to coincide with the Xerox mis-calculation. As I stated earlier it is my contention that DB did not know who his spy was and vice/versa. Why do I think this? Well the given, I am not mafia. The not so obvious, not even I thought that I would be as suspicious as I am right now. Xerox went with the worst looking case, which granted I have not done a stellar job with supporting the whole DB is GF argument. But that is why I am writing this.

DB also wants to ask the mod if the GF knew who the spy was! I bet I can tell you what his reply will be, and I do not have to think real hard about that.


My arguments are strained I conceed that point. I have hinted at being a doc, Were spotted this, on page 3 post 105. That is the only way I can prove/point to my role claim.

Veggie=alien.... tell me it aint so!!

Vote DB
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Vegtable2001
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 8:36 pm    Post subject: 252 Reply with quote

My real suspicions of Kingpin are based on XeroX's role claim. In the middle of the day, after it looks like kingpin is losing the debate, she suddenly pops up saying "I'm a cop, vote darkblade." Now on the one hand we have a mafia cop, and on the other we have what we can only believe to be a godfather. I know there have been kill attempts so i'm pretty damn sure the godfather is not a carpenter. Now to adress the two possibilities. Xerox and Darkblade are evil, or Xerox and Kingpin are evil. If Xerox and darkblade are evil, that means a mafia cop pulled a leptons gambit on her own godfather. This seems completly unnecessary for several reasons. A mafia cop character only wins when the mafia wins, so keeping the godfather alive is vital to one. She could have also lynched kingpin right then and there. Had she lynched Kingpin, and he was innocent, it would have been 2 mafs vs. 2 town, a maf victory. Now if she and kingpin were mafs together. She may have seen kingpin had a bandwagon on him, and thought her only hope to win, was to save him. If she starts a bandwagon that kills an innocent, the mafs win the game. I don't think theres really any question of who to vote for here.
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Darkblade
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 12:28 pm    Post subject: 253 Reply with quote

I wonder where Levite is? Regardless, here is my responses to Kingpin's latest statements:

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TANSTAAFL/The Levite poses no threat to DB because as stated by The Levite he only investigates for Aliens


Uh, no. TANSTAAFL became a confirmed innocent after she handed us an alien. Mafia routinly kills confirmed innocents, and it would be bad for the mafia to let her live until the end.

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DB then assails me for my choice in protection while he is doing exactly the same


What a very interesting twist on the facts. I started working on the extension on night 3, when it was very possible aliens still existed. You protected TANSTAAFL much later, when it was evident there were no more aliens. Big difference.

Quote:
How exactly would a mafia set up someone more perfectly than to attack everyone but the doc.


What? The mafia's best ploy would be to go for the win and kill two people. If I was mafia, I wouldn't need to keep you alive for lynch fodder as I could always claim Levite as a mafia scientist/ GF or something.

Quote:
As I stated earlier it is my contention that DB did not know who his spy was and vice/versa


I see you convieniently ignored my point on this. Even if the mafia did not know in the beginning, xerox could have easily made herself known. This point destroys your elaborate conspiracy theory. To Veg/Levite, remember Occam's Razor!

Quote:
DB also wants to ask the mod if the GF knew who the spy was! I bet I can tell you what his reply will be, and I do not have to think real hard about that.


Fine. Veg or Levite can ask him. Better yet, the mod can answer the question in the thread. Again, not that it matters, because xerox could have easily made herself known in her notes.

Quote:
I have hinted at being a doc, Were spotted this, on page 3 post 105. That is the only way I can prove/point to my role claim.


Post 105 hinting that you are a doc? That's laughable. Heck, if I saw that reply sooner, I wuold have used it as evidence against you. In that post you say doc's probably have differenent abilitys. Mikegoo had no extra abilities and you didn't claim any. If you were a doc, you'd know that the doc did not have any extra abilities. Post 105 proves you arn't a doc.

In conclusion, there are several pieces of evidence and logic clearly showing Kingpin to be scum. Against some logic, Kingpin responds with faulty logic. Against others, he completely ignores it, hoping that it will be forgotten. Levite, secure a town victory by voting Kingpin

Confirm vote: Kingpin


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KingPin
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 1:50 pm    Post subject: 254 Reply with quote

That is such crap.

TANSTAAFL did pose no threat to the mafia. You conceded this point earlier by saying that she became a confirmed innocent by handing us an alien. Your reasoning, "mafia routinely kill confirmed innocents". Is it not also a point here that by leaving this investigator alive you were able to search out the last of the alien mafia! It seems to me that these two mafia were in contention for the town. Would it not also be reasonable for you to want this "innocent" to remain alive to seek out your enemies, while killing off the town?

Originally posted by DB:
You protected TANSTAAFL much later, when it was evident there were no more aliens. Big difference.
The only difference here is that I protected TANSTAAFL until night 5. You were busy building on to her house nights 3 and 4. The BIG difference here is what one night. Her lack of participation had a lot to do with that decision. Without information from her it is hard confirm the fact that no one was an alien. Except now that there have been 4 nights without alien activity.

Originally posted by DB:
The mafia’s best ploy would be to go for the win and kill two people. If I was mafia, I wouldn't need to keep you alive for lynch fodder…
This is deep! I agree that you needed to go for the win! I agree that you needed to kill two last night. I think that you are calculating enough to know that there is a chance that your attempts at killing last night might fail. For this reason, I think that the reason you decided not to attack me is a setup. Easily you or I could have claimed that we were targeted also. By your only targeting the others you are quietly making a statement. Choose between both of us!

Originally posted by DB:
I see you conveniently ignored my point on this. Even if
This point was not ignored see reference to MY CONTENTION. This means that I believe that you did not know who your spy was, beginning or end. You thought that it would have been made known by the spy. I disagree, only because I do not know.

Let me say this, I do not have any other abilities or night choices. By putting that out there I was trying to inform the town of the presence of docs! Secondly, by putting out the thought that docs might have an extra ability, my hope was that an alien/mafia member would try to impersonate a doc and claim an extra ability. I knew that my claim against any other doc claim would be proven with the lynch of either one. In effect this would have been helpful to the town had such a situation occurred.

Your conclusion! There are several pieces of evidence! Logic! The only logic form you is blind logic. You refuse to see any theories other than your own. I have been open to other theories none have been raised. I am clearly a doc and want the town to win. I know that even with my lynch there is still a chance for that. By good hiding tonight and a touch of luck, the town can lynch you tomorrow.

Your response to the fact that you are not the mafia GF is that you are a carpenter, oh and you live in a house. This is not definitive nor does it clear you into absolute innocence. It acts as a shield to hide behind. Your response to the fact that Xerox made a mistake, he/she knew who the she knew who the GF was. Possible, I happen to think differently though. It might be true that Xerox communicated with the mafia but did not know who the GF was. It is possible that the only communication went through Jason. It is possible that the communication was done anonymously.

TL, Veggie, I have failed you as members of the town by not being more convincing. Good luck to you tonight.
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Vegtable2001
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 4:58 pm    Post subject: 255 Reply with quote

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Xer0x, a mafia spy, has been lynched. He was NOT mafia, per se. He could investigate townsfolk to determine if they were cops/docs/mafia and communicate one secret message (6 words, no punctuation) to the mafia family per day. He could not communicate with the mafia in any other way. In the scenario that he was the lone mafia, the town would have won, because he does not have a kill ability. However, should there have been at least one other mafia, he would be included in the mafia count for the purposes of a mafia win.
I think it's obvious the gf would know who xerox is from that. I also think, that by that point in the game, Xerox would have investigated either kingpin or darkblade. If she investigated kingpin and got doctor, she would have voted you, killing you and giving the game to the mafia yesterday. If she investigated kingpin and got godfather, she would immediatly try and start an alternate bandwagon, to protect the gf. If she investigated Darkblade and got innocent, she would have assumed kingpin was mafia, and tried to start a bandwagon on darkblade. If she investigated darkblade and got guilty, she wouldn't have tried starting a bandwagon on him. Hows that for logic?
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Sebastian
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 6:02 pm    Post subject: 256 Reply with quote

Answer to the question regarding the spy:

Sorry, that's privelaged information.



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KingPin
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 6:04 pm    Post subject: 257 Reply with quote

Veg, I agree with your logic on the investigations. Assuming that she did investigate either one of us. I do not, however, agree with you on the part about them knowing about each other. The secret message thing is what leads me to believe they had no idea. Like perhaps she communicated with the mod and then the mod communicated with the mafia, something of that sort. Like I have said before, it is hard to defend yourself against the perceptions of others. My perception has been stated.
I have not said or done anything that I would consider scummy. The only real shadow hanging over my head is this damned Xerox thing. Granted it seems a rather large shadow but I can do nothing about it.
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Sebastian
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 10:57 am    Post subject: 258 Reply with quote

Email sent to The Levite...
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Sebastian
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2003 12:03 pm    Post subject: 259 Reply with quote

No reply...

..(sigh)...

..Tuesday is the deadline. THe person with the highest number of votes will be lynched on Tuesday 27th May.

DEADLINE Tue 27 May 2PM GL Time

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The Levite
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 4:49 pm    Post subject: 260 Reply with quote

Bah, Gah, Qah, and Zah! Sorry been so late I've had to do more than should be humanly possible in the last week. Now drumroll please!

I hope that I make the right decision *holds breath and crosses fingers* Vote: Kingpin
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KingPin
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 6:14 pm    Post subject: 261 Reply with quote

Good job, Darkblade.

Good luck tonight!
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Vegtable2001
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 7:08 pm    Post subject: 262 Reply with quote

If kingpin is telling the truth, and not just trying to make us nervous, we still have a 1 in 4 chance of winning.
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Darkblade
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 8:43 pm    Post subject: 263 Reply with quote

He's just making us nervous. I am who I say I am. THe town has won.
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Sebastian
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 12:59 pm    Post subject: 264 Reply with quote

Old Sebastian steps out into the blazing heat, spitting a gout of tobacco awkwardly onto the sand. Wiping the trail of spittle from his chin he smiles, toothlessly, at the four townsfolk. He pulls a cigar from his nether regions and lights it with a match.

"So, whatsit gonna be, folks.. gruughugh?" he coughs, tossing the match away and scratching the soiled tan vest that sticks to his pot belly. Eyeing up the last remnants of Old Hollow, he grins. "One o you is scum. I can feel it in my loins. One o you is dog ugly critter feed! One o you got me ma daughter killed. An when I found out who ya are, I'm gonna take this here cigaroo an stick it where the sun don't shine. Now, git ta the business o lynchin."

Kingpin grimaces at the final comment. He beleived that Old Sebastian would indeed take a burning cigar and push it up his ass. That's the kind of thing Old Sebastian would do. Sweating he pulled a handkerchief from his pocket and wiped his brow. Only when he was putting the thing away did he notice it's deep crimson hue. He scrambled to get it into his jacket before the town recognised the colour of blood. Whistling he ambled into the shade and through the door of the barbers. Fetching a cracked and creamy mug from behind a rusty steriliser he rinsed it out and filled it with water. Sipping on the warm liquid he looked up. Darkblade was staring at him from one of the barber's chairs, playing with a cut-throat razor.

"Howdy Kingin.. nice handerchief ya got there.."

Kingpin carefully placed the cup onto the white counter, beside a bent metal comb, and turned to face him.

"Yeah, dropped some ketchup on it. Whats it to you, hombre?"

"Xer0x, one of your boys, tried to place the blame on me yesterday. Everyone had their eye on you 'till then. Seems he was tryin ta protect ya."

"Hey, I ain't no Diego. I *@?% you up, you say otherwise."

"Bull&@#£," he spits. He draws breath to shout, "Hey boys, we got ourselves a Diego in here. Get the rope."

Kingpin looked to his left, over the shoulder of Darkblade. There was a large pane of glass with, in red and flaking writing, the lable of the store's owner covering its exterior. He cautiously picked up the mug of water with his right hand, quickly flicking the metal comb into his jacket sleeve. When Vegetable and Levite joined them at the door, Kingpin smiled.

"So what if I'm a Diego, you ain't gonna kill me. You ain't nothin' but a bunch o pussies."

Vegetable began a curse and stepped forward, neck swelling with anger. Kingpin grinned even wider.

"That's right Vegetable, I'm Hesu Kingpinez Diego. You wanna play? Huh? You wanna play with me?"

Without warning Kingpin brought the thick base of the mug crashing hard onto the skull of Vegetable. His skin burst, black spots echoed and rumbled over his vision and he fell to the floor. Kingpin booted his face at the precise moment before it came crashing to the floor, instantly breaking his neck. Darkblade roared and burst towards him. Kingpinez pulled the comb from his jacket sleeve, ducked under the charge and thrusted the sharp spines into Darkblade's eyes. Darkblade hunched and fumbled long enough for Kingpinez to bring a knee into his face. As Levite stepped into the room, Kinpinez withdrew the comb from Darkblade's face and thrusted it back again as many times as he could before darting forward and diving through the window. It shashed easily, glass spraying across the dirt. He ran toward Jasonez's old house where he knew the shotgun lay.

Darkblade and Levite took chase. Old Sebastian burst into the barber's with a green medical kit under his arm. Cursing, he hurried over to the pay phone and dialled quickly. Darkblade could see Kingpinez as he slammed the front door.

"He's gettin that gun o' his." Levite rasped with exhaustion. Darkblade nodded and started walking away. Levite hid in a bush and waited.

Moments later Darkblade returned smiling, with blood running down his face, Old Sebastian's elephant gun in his hands.

"Let's see how he likes this!"

Levite ran, quick as a fox, through the garden. The window smashed above and the air boomed. Shotgun pellets sparked against the garden tools. He ducked against the back door, turned the handle and rolled inside. Darkblade, meanwhile, circled around the front, kicked in the old lock and braced the elephant gun against his hip.

Old Sebastian heard gunshots as the flicker of a helicopter twinkled on the horizon. It wasn't long before the paramedics arrived and took Vegetable away. They took with them Levite (a shot and bloody arm) and Darkblade (a missing eye). They couldn't find the body of Kingpinez Diego. For many days, police combed the desert, searching for their prey. Old Sebastian, chewing on some tobacco, as the sirens drifted away, began to smile.

It was early evening. He made his way into his old hut, turned on Frank SInatra and danced awkwardly around his room.

"la la la.. pearly whites.. la la la.."

He made his way into the kitchen and opened the cellar door.

"la la la la.. macky is back in town..."

As the record stopped and hissed, the needle catching on a tear in the vinyl, the sounds of murmuring could be heard downstairs. Old Sebastian stepped into the darkness of the cellar and turned on a small, flickering light.

Jasonez and Kingpinez, tied and bound, looked up in terror.

Old Sebastian pulled out two old cigars and a matchbox.

"Im a man o my word afterall...."


THE END



Kingpinez Diego, Mafia Godfather, has been killed.


GAME OVER
TOWN WINS


Thanks for playing. Please feel free to use this board for your own communication. Send any suggestions or critique to the address below.

Sebastian
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Invasion Mafia

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[This message has been edited by Sebastian (edited 05-28-2003 09:04 AM).]
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Werebear
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 1:18 pm    Post subject: 265 Reply with quote

Veg... what was that post at the top of the page where you put *Exits human form*??!

And thanks for modding this, Sebastian... good game. and BAH! to the mafia for finding me in the cupboard!
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MacadamiamaN
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 1:25 pm    Post subject: 266 Reply with quote

He just does that, to scare people
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Darkblade
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 1:33 pm    Post subject: 267 Reply with quote

OWWWW! My eye! Kingpin, you bastard!

Good game to all.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 2:30 pm    Post subject: 268 Reply with quote

That was awsome. Except for my original lynching. Who would have thought that I would have come back as the nemisis that I was searching for.

Damn that Xerox for trying to help me. BTW I did not know who the mafia spy was! I had a pretty good idea towards the end of the game though. I only got one communication from her, it was that Mikegoo was a Doctor. All in all it was a good game. Nothing much for me to hide behind in the end game. Oh and I did not know that Jason was a carpenter when I made that statement. There were many things that I did not know during the game that I probably should have.

I agree Darkblade great game!
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Sebastian
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 3:16 pm    Post subject: 269 Reply with quote

No problem Werebear. I'll be back again in the future for another moderation.. perhaps with less variation to the original mafia rules. Until then,

Sebastian Out.
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Vegtable2001
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 5:02 pm    Post subject: 270 Reply with quote

Woot! Pseudo alien wins! Pseudo means fake
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The Levite
Tribal Freeloader



PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 9:21 pm    Post subject: 271 Reply with quote

Excellent game Sebastian! As for all the doctors, I fart in your general direction. I had an awsome part, until someone didn't protect me and I died. Never got to use all my cool gagets ...
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Dragon Phoenix
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 9:51 pm    Post subject: 272 Reply with quote

Excellent game Sebastian.

Given the reluctance of some during the sign-up I offered to co-mod, but I basically did nothing (one or two advices). Please mod more games here!
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Sebastian
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 12:09 pm    Post subject: 273 Reply with quote

Cheers
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Jason
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 3:03 pm    Post subject: 274 Reply with quote

That was brillianto Bobaroo! I thoroughly enjoyed getting the poor old super cop strung up. Sorry Green crayons, but it had to be done! Well done to all. Only problem for the mafia was, no offence to you xerox, our spy gave us nothing to work from and we had to fight with only two of us from the start. I think we did ok considerig the poor aliens got wiped out so quickly but in the end I guess it was kind of difficlut for poor old kingpin to fight the loosing battle. Well done darkblade by the way. You stuck to your guns. Good game all. Look forward to another soon.
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xer0x
xer0x



PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 3:34 pm    Post subject: 275 Reply with quote

I must have got the most unhelpful results ever. I kept on finding dead people, my own mafia, or 'townies'. The results I get seem to follow no specific format; sometimes I'd get the role of the character, sometimes I'd just get something along the lines of 'random townie'.
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KingPin
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 3:41 pm    Post subject: 276 Reply with quote

Xerox,
You mean you were spying on me! Why did you not tell us who you were? It would have been fun though,if you had .... Oh well it doesn't matter. It was a good game, I like the randomness of the attacks. Though, it hurt me in the end when I didn't kill anyone. My last e-mail to Sebastian said "This is the last night with or without successful kills!" Turns out I was right.

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Darkblade
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 4:27 pm    Post subject: 277 Reply with quote

Hey, just out of curiousity, was housing random or planned?

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KingPin
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 4:42 pm    Post subject: 278 Reply with quote

DB are you still on the hunt for housing assignments!!

Good question though. Sebastian?
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 6:18 pm    Post subject: 279 Reply with quote

The placing of roles into houses was random. It would have been unfair otherwise. I had hoped that the dice would have a godfather, alien and cop in the mansions, but I couldn't fudge it. As I say, it had to be fair.
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