Newbie Mafia 8 - See "Take 2"

[Marvel Kid]

Now that we know Jamezue is the cop, I say we should vote the way he voted. We know he was trustworthy, and who knows, he might have been on to something. If nothing else, at least we will be carrying on in his honor and getting the game rolling.

so I'll start.

vote: duphrates

[Kd]

Can't argue with that.

Vote: Duphrates

[Sami]

That makes sense.

vote: Duphrates

[UnheardVoice]

Agreed.

Vote: Duphrates

[Mog]

It's a better idea than letting day pass without much happening again. Vote: Duphrates

[Neo]

6 to lynch
5 Duphrates (KD, MarvelKid, Mog, Sami, UnheardVoice)

[Maximus]

I also join you guys

VOTE:Duphrates

[Neo]

A quick mob forms up and lynches the silent Duphrates. Another townie hangs by the neck.

It is night, 72 hours for choices.

[Neo]

The town wakes, eats breakfast, and then realizes everybody is still alive.

6 to lynch

[This message has been edited by Neo (edited 09-15-2003 11:25 PM).]

[boysavant]

Vote: Maximus

He cast the lynching vote without giving duphrates a chance to speak. That's very scummy.

[Marvel Kid]

I don't mind voting Maximus, but first I have to say: I find it very curious that the mafia isn't doing anything. I mean, maybe Neo tricked us and we don't have a mafia. Or we have crazy geriatric mafia who can't get out of bed.

And I know it's suspisious to sound dissapointed when nobody dies, but I'm not disapointed, I'm just confused. Thats a lot of no killing nights. I mean, how are we suposed to find the mafia if they don't do anything? Maybe they're on the run. That would be nice. If we just get them all to leave town, we won't have to kill anybody and we still win.

So I propose that whoever is mafia, turn yourselves in now and we will allow you to leave town peacefully.

[Kd]

Going away for a while.

Rather than be replaced yet again, I will admit that I am a townie and respectfully ask the mafia to get off their butts and lynch me.

[UnheardVoice]

Vote: Sawmill

[Sami]

vote: MillerTime. Just a hunch.

[Maximus]

This message for Boysavant, I do understand what you trying to express but if you look at the time stamp, it is clearly two days after the initial vote.

1) I thought the officer might have been on to something
2) He (Boysavant) had plenty of time to express his opinion

I have to admit that we all got it wrong but I honestly say to you all I am a townie. If you want me to prove, it can be achieved by my death.

[Marvel Kid]

did he just dare us to lynch him?

[Maximus]

Why not try me

[MillerTime]

I'd take you up on that challenge, but I remember what happened the last time I voted for you, so I'll hold my vote for now.

[Neo]

1 Maximus (boysavant)
1 MillerTime (Sami)
1 Sawmill (UnheardVoice)

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72 Hour deadline

[This message has been edited by Neo (edited 09-22-2003 09:06 PM).]

[MillerTime]

There's one vote for Maximus as well.

[Sawmill]

At the rate this game is going, the final entry is going to read, "And they all lived to a ripe old age." Might as well take Maximus up on it ... I don't see any better reason to vote for anyone.

Vote: Maximus



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We are oblivious to sanity.

[CourtlandStorm]

Heck, I'll do too: vote: Maximus

[Marvel Kid]

let's hope he's bluffing

vote: maximus

[Sami]

OK, then.

unvote: MillerTime
vote: Maximus

[Maximus]

I am Maximus and the official Medical Doctor for this town. Looks like I am not going to live long and I pass this information to my beloved townies.

Night –1 (MillerTime)

Night –2 (MarvelKid)

Night –3 (MarvelKid)

Night –4 (UnheardVoice)

Now I leave the rest in your hands, please bring “boysavant” to justice. Bye for now


Do not try to save me; I hope I did my best to save you all. Bye.

[Sami]

I believe him.
unvote: Maximus
vote: boysavant

[Mog]

Yep, same here. Vote: boysavant

[Sawmill]

I'll go with the flow, for now...

Unvote: Maximus
Vote: boysavant

Any word in defense, boysavant?

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We are oblivious to sanity.

[UnheardVoice]

I smell a rat. Why would the Doctor provoke any sort of an attack on himself?

He's either a stupid/desperate townie or a mafia trying to save himself.

Unvote: Sawmill
Vote: Maximus

[CourtlandStorm]

I don't see sufficient evidence as to why I should change my vote. I'm staying the same.

[Neo]

Note: ALWAYS double check your count AND type out the vote count before making night fall

4 Maximus (boysavant, CourtlandStorm, MarvelKid, UnheardVoice)
3 boysavant (Mog, Sami, Sawmill)

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[This message has been edited by Neo (edited 09-28-2003 08:42 PM).]

[UnheardVoice]

Neo, Sawmill is voting for boysavant, not Maximus.

[Marvel Kid]

I sort of agree with unheard voice: the statement by Maximus was very suspicious.

It's one thing to admit your the doctor in a last desperate atempt to save yourself (or at least to be able to say 'i told you so' later)

but, why with the agression towards boysavant as if he knows who the mafia is. The doctors don't investigate, so he couldnt have heard from Neo. It seems like he's acting out of bitterness just becasue Boysavant was the first one to vote for him today (and for a not so unjustified reason in the first place).

Maybe there's a better explanation and I just missed it, in which case,somebody please explain to me.

Otherwise I'm thinking the best bet is for a real doctor to counter Max's story, or Maximus just admit youre townie or mafia, or Boysavant: at least come out and defend yourself

I definitely want more info before I change my vote

[Maximus]

Wait I got something to say. In 2 hrs time I will, please do wait for me

Thanks

[boysavant]

Hello!

Maximus, you look even MORE guilty after that little episode. Maybe I'm a dyed in the blue newbie, but what good would telling who you supposedly protected do the town?

Confirm Vote: Maximus

I have done nothing, save voting for a possible doc, maximus, to justify a lynch, and even then...

[Maximus]

1. Almost 120 reply post in this game, how many can boysavant claim? Just 4. All others had their reasonable post except this person. I have the impression that he comes out when the time is right and make a vote and disappear again.

Please read post 53

[Marvel Kid]

So I'm starting to get this sneaking suspicion that Maximus doesn't trust me...

Which I think is quite ironic since he suposedly saved me twice.(post 105)

At any rate. I'm not really sure what I think about his story. On the one hand, he seems almost genuinely angry in an "i'm innocent and nobody believes me" sort of way. On the other hand, I supose if he was mafia that would be a good ploy. I'm still not realy sure I buy this whole thing but he does bring up a couple of good points, being that Jamezu did vote for boysavant before voting for duphrates. However, in my own defense, I mentioned duphrates and not boysavant because Jamezu Unvoted boysavant and voted duphrates.

Not to mention, as far as the "Jamezu was going after boyavant and thats why he was shot" theory...Maximus failed to mention that Jamezu FOSed Maximus himself that day as well.

I'm thinking though that at this point we have to make a decision. Either we vote Maximus because we think he's mafia and just bluffing about this whole thing - in which case we find out either he's the doctor (and may or may not be right about his theories but at least we know they're innocent and genuine) or he's townie and just talking out of his butt to try and save himself, or he's mafia and just acting scummy and trying to make us suspect everyone else.

Or we kill boysavant because we believe Maximus (or even if we don't think he's the doctor we agree with his suspicions of boysavant) in which case boysavant either is mafia, and we can believe Max, or he isn't and Max may or may not be the doctor but either way we know he was wrong and is therefore much more suspicious and may possibly be mafia.

So what it comes down to for me is we're taking a gamble based on which one we believe. However, if we gamble on Maximus we risk losing our only doctor but if we gamble on boysavant (as far as I know since he hasn't said ohterwise) we risk losing a townie. Either way, the mafia will probably kill Maximus tonight - unless he really is mafia - but I'd rather not have his blood on my hands when he could be the doctor.

So based on that, and the fact that I don't want this "marvel kid and boysavant are in kahoots" business going on any longer (as well as the fact that Max is right- boysavant hardly ever posts) I'm going to go with boysavant and hope things work out for the best.

I would just like to note though, that if Max is the doctor I am very annoyed for him telling everyone so because he realy didnt have to do that to prove his case against Boysavant and all it did was let the mafia know who the doctor is and leave the rest of us defenseless. Bah.

so here goes:
unvote: Maximus
vote: boysavant

[boysavant]

Uhm, excuse me......

I do have a life besides the GL. School, debate, band.... I don't have time to continuely post here, especially when the good majority of my votes have been random.

This is the way it pans out if you lynch me:

You find out I'm a townie. Ok, great...

So then the next day you lynch Maximus, and find out he's either a doc or mafia.

Here's the way it pans out if you lynch Maximus:

You find out he's a doc, or a mafia. Ok, great...

If he's a doc, feel free to lynch me, if he's not, score one for the town.

What it comes down to is this: I voted Maximus because he cast the lynching vote before duphrates even made a role claim. Maximus subsequently cast an OMGUS vote against me, disguising it under the "But two days!" thing.

We both could be telling the truth about our roles, I honestly can't say I have hard evidence. But the way I play mafia, and the way I see mafia played, casting a lynching vote like that is a big no-no, and it hints at mafia.

So there ya have it. You may even want to consider a no-lynch, but seeing as how no one has told me how to figure out if that is good for the town, I couldn't tell you if that's a good idea. So it may not be.

In summation: *shrug*

[Sawmill]

We're past the 72 deadline Neo gave us ... but as night hasn't fallen quite yet, I'll reconsider. When I voted boysavant earlier I asked if he had any defense. After reading his two notes I am an inclined to switch again.
unvote: boysavant
vote: Maximus

Reasoning? Quoting boysavant:

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What it comes down to is this: I voted Maximus because he cast the lynching vote before duphrates even made a role claim... [snip] ...the way I see mafia played, casting a lynching vote like that is a big no-no, and it hints at mafia.

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Also, Maximus's claim surely sets him up as the next mafia target (unless he is one of them). We might as well lynch him and make the mafia guess tonight. Frankly, I find myself just about convinced he is really mafia pretending to be the Doc, hoping to make the real Doc break cover. I'd think an experienced Doc would stay silent as long as possible, but this is a newbie game and Maximus might be hoping a newbie Doc would blow it by publicly contradicting his claim.




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We are oblivious to sanity.

[Marvel Kid]

Just out of curiosity...are we allowed to vote for two people at once?