Who framed Roger Rabbit mafia - GAME OVER!

[JDTAY]

Because I thought Neo might be evil and that my ability might override his.

[JDTAY]

To tell the truth, that's why I used Werebear every night, even after Quail cleared him.

[JDTAY]

The way I see it, jesternl is the GF and Neo is another weasel. With all the roles I doubt there's just one bad guy left. I think all of Quail's investigations are correct, he is the only cop, and DP did spell it 'weasle' in the first reply.

[Neo]

vote JDTAY for already stated reasons. I know I'm not a baddy.

Added: JDTAY who has always been suspicious of Quail now suddenly isn't once he's on the chopping block. And how hard is it to query the mod to get a list of your choices? Not very. So I think JD is lying in that respect as well.

[ralphmerridew]

You forgot to add the whole "Let's lynch mole without even letting him roleclaim." bit.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Vote count, 6 to lynch, 3 to lynch at retractable deadline Tue 2PM

JDTAY 4 (Porro, mole, ralphmerridew, Neo)
Neo 1 (JDTAY)

[Neo]

Oh, that too. Gimme a break, I've been up a total of *checks* an hour

[casinopete]

Well, that's four votes, and mine would be a fifth, leaving him rather vulnerable.

So before we lynch, don't we want at least some sort of discussion? I know I have at least one thought I'd like to share.

Quail investigating 7 innocents in a row seems a little crazy to me, though not as crazy as our only cop being naive. But the revelation of Droopy as a backup gives me a theory. Maybe DP wanted a sort of delayed cop in the game, one that only got activated after a certain number of turns - so if/when Quail died, Droopy would take over as a real cop; also, if Droopy died instead, perhaps Quail becomes a normal cop instead of naive. Seems like a bit of a handicap, but it could provide balance in a game with a 3-mason group, possibly two doctors, an inventor, whatever cool stuff would have happened had Logain "found" Roger Rabbit before dying, and assorted other town roles that added together might seem just a bit imbalanced otherwise.

[ralphmerridew]

Somebody suggested that Logain found RR night 2, which is why he was added to the player list.

[JDTAY]

I haven't always been suspicious of Quail, it was just revived now when he got the suit. I did heal him last night.

I have no doubt in my mind that there are two bad guys left. The game would be way imbalanced otherwise, even if I weren't a doc and Quail was incompetent.

[Bear Skin Rug]

I want to play again!!! Waaaahhhhh!

[BearGhostTalon]

(stuff it, furball - they should be able to figure it out by now)

[Dragon Phoenix]

Werebear will mod in my absence.

[Quailman]

I think casinopete's theory about Droopy becoming a real cop once I died is on the mark. Too bad I didn't die while Droopy was still alive. Let's get this show on the road. vote: JDTAY

[JDTAY]

*sighs, never plays mafia again*

[Dragon Phoenix]

And JDTAY it is. Into the dip goes Bugs Bunny, remote control doctor.

Night falls - choices before Friday 2PM. I will start the day, then Werebear will take over from me.

[This message has been edited by Dragon Phoenix (edited 09-17-2003 07:00 AM).]

[Dragon Phoenix]

Dawn breaks with Gyro Gearloose (Porro), the town's inventor, killed by a dip spray gun.

Eight players left, five to lynch.

I'm sending out the roles to Werebear now - I'll give you modding rights as well, so you can edit the first post.

[Darkblade]

Okay, I am almost postitive Neo is the scum we are looking for. I really shouldn't have let Neo slip by two days ago.

Vote: Neo

[Porro]

[Mark J Tilford]

Vote: Neo

[ralphmerridew]

(that last post should've been by rm)

[jesternl]

and why do you think that, Darkblade?

[Neo]

Yes, why?

[Darkblade]

I'll lay it out

1. Unbelieveable role claim (an obscure role that doesn't sound like a DP role)

2. On day two, indirectly defended Veg with

[Neo]

I'll rebut. (rebutt?)

1. DP Townies without roles don't exist. Or didn't exist. Looks like he's thrown us a few loops.

2. This belongs in out of context quotes. I was attempting to translate Big's post to English. Oh how scummish of me.

3.

Originally posted by me, 284:

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I dunno bear...That's kind of a stretch. I mean, Logain doesn't post much and stuff. And not many roles designed to find specific other roles also get other information. I guess DP might be throwing us a curve.
And I think he found RR, the "what happens next" could be RR showing up. Or maybe that just happened cuz it was claimed?

Bah@DP for being so complicated.

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Originally posted by Werebear, 289:

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fair enough. Unvote: Mad Max It *WAS* a stretch, but it was all I could come up with.

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OMFG! I express a little bit of doubt, and HS! I MUST BE SCUM! Especially when somebody AGREES with me!

4. Oh because we all know anybody with ANY sort of role claims/hints at and/or alludes to it at the FIRST available opportunity. Nobody has ever hidden a pro-town role before. By this point, Porro should be scum.

5. I went after the 2nd most suspicious because my ass was in a sling. I have two goals here 1) Help the town win and 2) Survive. I wouldn't have accomplished any by just rolling over and dying.

6. Okay, how to reply to this one? Gut feeling. Whoo. Is this so you can say, oops, i guess my gut was wrong? I'd suggest that the town consider whether or not an evil char might be able to avoid a lynch, but I'd rather wait to see if Quail found anything.

[Darkblade]

1. First, the only "townies" we are sure about are the Ducks, which seem more mason-like or possible Masons than pure townies. Moreover, DP using townies isn't as much of a stretch as a role which the TP wouldn't give a crap about and would have a rather roundabout way of being a one-shot cop. Furthermore, with Dolores, Eddie, and Droopy already being copish, a 4th copish role would be rather bizarre, even for a DP game.

2. "Just" translating? You did a whole lot more than that by explaining that DP is wierdenoug to do a multiple name thing and the adding the part about giving the TP an easy lynch opportunity. Again, you are putting your words in someone else's mouth to cover for yourself. Odd how you didn't vote for Veg, and at the begining of the day you tried to cover for Veg with the whole "Veg has two votes" crap.

3. Wearbear withdrew his point mainly due to wanting to wait for Quailman. The fact that you jump to Madmax's defense after one vote is moderatly suspicious. Just so you know this is just an "icing on the cake" point

4. Again, you are twistign what actually happened. You didn't just not hint at your role, you explicitly denied an integral part without anybody asking. You weren't in the crosshiars, so comparing what you did to what Porro did is an incorrect comparison. Furtermore, if you were in fact the Director, you had an opportune time to use your role, but you didn't.

5. This point mainly was to refute my earlier idea that you miust be innocent because you rallied against Madmax. It is more of an attack against a defence.

6. You wanted to know why I voted you, I gave you part of the reason. This gut comes in part from when you choose to talk and when you reel back and declare "I don't know nothing" Eveer since I wasn't killed after I claimed, I wondered what the heck I was doing alive, after all I was a confirmed innocent. Now I know; the mafia still think they can get the town to lynch me (it would be succesful this time around, as I was told I could run away only "once per game" <--just noticed this part in the e-mail). The fact that Neo is trying to put suspicion on me because I'm putting suspicion on him even though I've freaking confirmed my innosence (Mafia evading a lynch is absurd).

I'd confirm my vote, but I already have.

[ralphmerridew]

Actually, mafia evading lynch has happened. (See Leonidas in the mafiascum Princess Bride & Wax Museum games.)

[Neo]

1. Donald Duck and Daffy and Jester as Baby Herman, IIRC.
2.

Originally posted by Big:

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I am gonna FOS him I think he has enough votes, cuz its 10 to lynch... And I dont want to be the last to vote for him if he is roger rabbit. BTW shouldnt roger rabbit already be in the game... Kinda weird that he didnt start with us. Anyway FOS Veggie also FOS everyone who votted for him before he can explain himself especially the last 3 people cuz he already had enough votes on him to get an explaination from him. BTW the mafia cant get him until they get all the docs protecting him. So the way for the mafia to kill him is by a lynch (for now so watch out). Thats why we shouldnt be to eager to kill him off when he might be rogger rabbit.

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Originally posted by me, with added stuff:

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I think what he is saying is there IS still a CHANCE that vegt is RR. [my comment]DP is wierd enough to do something w/ this multipile name thing. I shudder to think about all the possibilities.[/my comment] So Big has FOS'ed the people who continue to pile on votes before vegt can explain himself (which is why I'm waiting, so he can explain). Because if it does somehow work out that he is RR, we're giving the TP a helluva an easy lynch opportunity.

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As for me not voting for vegt, as I said, I was waiting to hear something from him. However two hours after my post, RR casts the final vote. There were others that didn't vote for veg as well. Are they all mafia?
Two votes? I was asking a question!

Originally posted by me:

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Does this mean vegt gets two votes?

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In fact, jester had a similar idea

Originally posted by jester:

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? Puzzling... Is this an extra player, with a vote? RR is listed as a player, along with vegt.....

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3.

[Werebear]

*I'm* in charge now! Muha-ha-ha! And now... THE DREADED VOTE COUNT!

Neo (2 - Darkblade, ralphmerridew)

Wow, that was tough.

[jesternl]

I'm also surprised actually, that no one has speculated, or even seemes to worry about one missing day. Personally, I am at a loss what happened there.

[mole]

I think we were all so mortified by RR's death that we couldn't bear to lynch anyone. DP had a role like that in his Famous Women game on scum.

[Quailman]

code:

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Claims





CasinoPete - Benny the Cab - doc


Neo        - Director Raoul - one shot investigate





Comfirmed Role or Cleared by Quailman





mole          - Dewey Duck (mason with Courk and rm) cleared by Quailman


Jesternl   - Baby Herman  - cleared by Quailman


ralphmerridew - Louie Duck (mason with Courk and mole)


Quailman      - Lt. Sandino (cop)


Darkblade     - Speedy Gonzales (evidence: evaded lynch)


DMTsurel      - Road Runner (evidence: Wile E. Coyote's posted role)

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I spent yesterday trying to find the reply to my investigation among my three e-mail accounts. When that failed, I looked for the investigation e-mail itself, without success. I am afraid that I did not send in my night choice for the first time ever. I am so ashamed of myself. I've been swamped at work, and I am still alive in both this game and GL Mafia 3, which is more than I expected. All I can say is that it would have been Neo, and regardless of how it came back, I would have voted for him.

vote: Neo

[ralphmerridew]

Since there's reason to believe you're naive, I suggest you drop those whose only support is "Cleared by Quailman" to the bottom of your list in the future.

[Quailman]

D'oh! I meant to, but the first one on the list is Dewey Duck, whom I'm inclined to believe, so I didn't want to drop him to the bottom. The only other surviving 'cleared by Quailman' is JestHermanl. He's next.

[Neo]

Jeez, why me? What more do you want from me?

[jesternl]

what do you mean 'Im next' Quailman?

[Quailman]

Either you, Darkblade, DMT or casinopete. I don't know yet. But I trust (have been suckered in by) ralphmerridew and mole as Masons, though I think I've seen a GF mason before.

[Werebear]

Two posts in two days... there has to be a joke involving the word "animated" somewhere in here. Post, or I'll put the "LINE" back in DEADLINE. Or was that the "EADLI" back in DEADLINE. Well, there's something that has to be put back in DEADLINE, and if you don't talk, I'll do it.

[Neo]

Real helpful to the town you guys. Thanks a lot. This isn't mafia. This is lynch a random person until we get the right guy.

[casinopete]

I was waiting to hear mole's opinion, but this is getting silly.

Vote: Neo