Mini Game Q2 - DAY 2 (game abandoned, post roles)

[ralphmerridew]

*thinks over events of last night, trying to decide if they corroborate or contradict Improbable's version*

Well, at least some of Improbable's information is good; I also got information about BigO's death (which is why I was asking about whether he was modkilled).

Specifically, I was following BigO, I heard the gunshot, and I tried (unsuccessfully) to save him. I even called for help, but nobody responded.

I didn't see the killer, however.

(more later)

[Werebear]

The vigilante hasn't used a kill, as far as I know. They could tonight, I'm sure.

[ralphmerridew]

The thing that's bothering me is that I don't see how the killer could have gotten blood on himself. I doubt he was too close (I didn't notice him); he may not have even been in the alley. And even if he was in the alley, he must have fled immediately.

[Werebear]

I'm guessing whoever killed dragged the body into the alley. But this Big-O-Rama thing is kind of messing the game up... He was a mod kill because of not sending his choice in at night... so is this something we should be pursuing, or not?

[mole]

I find it very odd that we have two players with leads on BigORamo's death, and nothing on the other one. I think querci took the opportunity to lead everyone down the wrong route last night... bah

[Werebear]

That's why I asked. It's gumming the works up.

[ralphmerridew]

I don't think the body was moved. The killer(s) must have left almost immediately; I don't see why they'd come back afterwards.

[Improbable]

Whether the two were involved in the murder of BigORamo is unclear. It was never actually stated that I saw them exiting the alley, but my interest in the two lead me to the alley.

As ralphmerridew suggested in reply #193, does it seem likely that the killer(s) were the same for both people murdered last night (even if they hadn't actually chosen BigORamo as a target)? If so, the night's information could still prove to be useful.

ralphmerridew: was BigORamo in the alley when he was shot?

I will be away from Sat 9^th to Sat 16^th inclusive, sorry for the short notice.

[ralphmerridew]

BigO was in an alley when he was shot. Given the apparent absence of any sort of blood trail to the body, I don't think he was moved.

[Planky]

[Werebear]

it's a crucial point. Both Diane and I left, at different points during the night, for trivial reasons. To do killing for the mod is both not what *I* do, at least, and I would NOT call it trivial. If quercitron allowed an extra kill, he SHOULD have allowed the mafia group to do it, or at least written the script that they did.

quercitron - you really have to be more clear. Was Big-O-Rama's death PART of the game, or something that just happened? Was there a character responsible for the kill, and should we be finding them??

[quercitron]

As has been said before.

BigORamo's death is the direct result of him not sending in a Night choice. But I did not just hit him with a lightning bolt. Whoever is doing the killing, if there is someone doing the killing, got two kills last Night, with the requirement that one of the kills had to be BigORamo. BigORamo's death was threaded into the story of the game.

q

[Gaspode]

Ok, so now we know any info about BigORamo's death is good for finding the mafia. What now? I've presented all my info already, and my suspicions haven't changed a whole lot.

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[Gaspode]

Btw, almost four days without a post is pathetic. Talk it up!

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You can't lose if you win.

[quercitron]

He has a point. I let this go on to see if maybe everyone was away during the weekend, but it's Monday night now. So, within the next 48 hours, everyone must post and register a vote, even vote: no lynch.

There will be consequences if not obeyed.

[Werebear]

I agree, and am going for a quiet one. Vote: groza No further logic or brainpower was used. No braincells were injured in the making of this post.

[ralphmerridew]

Vote: Werebear I don't trust that mason claim.

[Planky]

What the... I thought this game was in nightmode. Well that was a slip of the mind, sorry for not posting.

[mole]

Vote: no lynch, then. We still have nothing to work with.

[mole]

Here's tonight's list of events:

• DMTsurel was at mole's house
  
• Gaspode was at Planky's house
  
• groza's whereabouts are unknown
  
• Improbable was at the scene of BigO's murder - saw a man and a woman leave
  
• ralphm was at the scene of BigO's murder shortly after the attack
  
• mole was at mole's house
  
• Planky's whereabouts are unknown
  
• CV was at the masons' house, but left at some point.
  
• Werebear was at the masons' house, but left at some point.
  

[The Cruciverbalist]

[Werebear]

that's 5 people posting... deadline 9:30pm tonight.

[Planky]

I think Im in the same boat as Cruciverbalist, I am being kept in the dark about what I get up to during the night. I'd like to know where I was when whatshisface was looking through my house. Although I wont go as far as voting myself

[ralphmerridew]

Unvote: WB, Vote: mole

No lynch is rarely the answer, and I'm very suspicious of those who try to use it. The lynch is the town's only weapon, and throwing it away twice in a row is not a good idea.

[DMTsurel]

ralphmerridew - If you have to vote, don't vote mole - He's innocent. Vote someone else.

[ralphmerridew]

What's the evidence to mole's innocence?

[DMTsurel]

I spent the night with him.

[ralphmerridew]

That doesn't prove mole's innocent; there are probably two mafias, and only one of them needed to be up to carry out the kill. (I think I was the woman Improbable saw last night.)

[Werebear]

that's it, everyone's innocent except for Robinson, he's the killer, let's all go home.

[quercitron]

Got caught in big power outage, first time I can post. More soon, including deadline information.

[Gaspode]

Well, FOS: mole for the no lynch vote (this would be two days in a row), but there's just as much evidence of his innocence. *tries to get head to stop spinning*

If I have to vote, I guess I'll vote: Werebear because the mason claim is shaky, and the fact that CV got different information from you is very suspicious.

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[Improbable]

ralphmerridew: did you touch BigORamo?

The thought had crossed my mind that The Cruciverbalist could be feigning unawareness (in addition to self-voting), but I have dismissed it for now.

I agree that Werebear's additional information seems odd (having a three-person mason lodge (with a vigilante) in a mini game is a bit unusual in itself).

If we were to lynch Werebear and....

1. He is/was in fact a mason:
   • We can be sure (as far as we can in this game ) of The Cruciverbalist's masonship and the existance of a third mason (and that one is/was a vigilante)
   • We lose an innocent
2. He is/was in fact mafia:
   • We're rid of one mafioso
   • The authenticity of the mason lodge comes under question

It is also likely that the deadline will be enforced soon....I will Vote: Werebear.

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"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." - Niels Bohr (1885-1962)

[Improbable]

I just got back BTW.

[Werebear]

*shakes head* Sad. First of all, look at Q1. They got all the mafia there too, didn't they. They weren't the killers, were they. The toughest part of this game is, you could lynch a killer, and never know it... the two real mafia in Q1 were caught mostly by luck.

Now, as to the group I'm in. I am EXACTLY what I say I am. I have given you all the information I have received. The Cruciverbalist is the only other one I am given information on. If there's anyone I'm suspicious of, it's the third member of the group. HOWEVER...

...it's time I laid all the cards on the table, for good or bad.

I am Sam, of course. I'm a blacksmith by trade, I'm mainly known for my strength. My wife is Diana, she's known for her purity, she's the daughter of a rich doctor, we met and fell in love when I pulled her Caddy out of a ditch for her (using my bare hands, I'm sure... ) Now, James is my best friend from high school, and he's smart, and kind, but above all he's known for his honesty. Those of you who have thought about what I've typed, yes, I am the one who can kill if need be at night. If I think someone is an evildoer, I can kill them with my strength... but I haven't found anyone I have reason to want to kill so far.

Of course, all this was relayed by Robinson. And you know what that means. So there you have it. If you're going to lynch me, then you're going to do so with full knowledge of my role, and you'll be better informed for later moves.

[Gaspode]

[ralphmerridew]

Improbable: Yes, I did touch BigORamo. As I said, I tried to save him. That's how I got his blood on me.

[Improbable]

So the man (I saw last night) was probably responsible for killing BigORamo.

If Werebear were to live today, then should we expect a vigilante killing as proof? If Werebear were untruthful, then we might expect no death by 'strength' (however that would be executed). Of course, I'm assuming protection wouldn't be a problem.

The Cruciverbalist: were you informed about the vigilante from the start (existance there of and who this was in the role message), and, if so, were you told anything about what manner in that the vigilante would perform attacks their attacks?

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"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." - Niels Bohr (1885-1962)

[Werebear]

The E-mail I received was worded to all three of us. The Cruciverbalist received a different email, I'd be surprised, unless his role was vastly different than the other two of us were told. (and same with the third member)

[ralphmerridew]

Do you know the username of the third member?

[Werebear]

Yes, of course I do. He *IS* my best friend from high school.