Dating Game Mafia - GAME OVER!

[Courk]

I hate to post this without the info in front of me, but I don't want to keep the game waiting.

ralphm has died in the night. He was some sort of townie. Details tomorrow, hopefully. Go ahead and discuss and vote.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Ummmm... before we discuss and vote 'd like some clarification about what "some kind of townie" means.....

[Courk]

That just meant I don't have his number in front of me. Expect full details around 7 ish. *goes to study*

[Courk]

Sorry for the delay and confusion.

As the town gathers in the morning to count it's members, it notices that one is missing - ralphm. Sadly, not too far away, they discover his electrocuted body with a single bullet hole right between the eyes.

Ralphm was a townie, bachelor #63.

7 alive, 4 to lynch!

[Dragon Phoenix]

Courk, can you confirm whether or not he was cult?

[Mgm]

Who are you talking about, DP?
ref was the SK, ralphm was a townie and Courk said that.

[Dragon Phoenix]

CULT. Remember? We have a cult, and I for one would like to know whether or not ralphmerridew was indeed cult (as I thought) or not.

[Courk]

Cult members are labled as cultists. Completely innocent, pro-town people with no powers whatsoever are labled townies.

[Dragon Phoenix]

That clear that up then, thanks.

[MatthewV]

Do days really pass without a word being said?

[Mgm]

Let me rephrase that: I am happy to respond to any specific questions anyone might have based on my posting. If I know what you want to know it's far easier to give a helpful response.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Big fat FOS referee.

After we lynched him for lurking (and found he was a SK) he should know better.

[MatthewV]

I would never choose a former SK to replace someone. Most because he...Courk knows best I am sure...
A- knows something about kill choices that the town doesn't
-this gives him extra information he shouldn't have
B- the town is told something about his kill choices
-this gives the entire town something they normally wouldnt have.


In the past, Crackerjack made a few bandwagon-happy posts early in the game. Not much more. Personally, I do not feel that anything is special about his role; if there had been I bet he would have been replaced sooner :P

unvote mgm
But will explain why you thought you were incomplete in your written thoughts?

[Dragon Phoenix]

Planting the daisies:
1. Veg/Mgm 2
2. Neo
3. Leonidas/MattV
4. Kees HondDP
5. crackerjack/referee2
6. Mackay
7. Nanook/jadesmar 2

So where are Neo, referee, Mackay and jadesmar? Lying low, waiting to jump on?

[referee]

Excuse me? The SK works alone. I chose, I killed. You found dead people. Where's the unauthorised info?

BTW, I'm not lurking. Not that there has been a big discussion today...
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[MatthewV]

I do not know if all the SK kills were successful. Do you?

[Courk]

Crap. I never thought about it like that. Let me attempt to fix this.

[Neo]

[Courk]

*replaces ref with ralphm*

Sorry ref, but I didn't think about all perspectives.

[referee]

It's ok. I didn't see them, either.
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[Mackay]

I haven't been able to get near a computer, DP, I explained that in a fair few previous posts. Maybe you missed it. I have access for a couple of hours today, if that, so here I am.

Nobody's really said anything today. I have to laugh at my bad feelings about rm, now that he's turned out to be town - twice. But my suspicions were on cj, perhaps it's third time lucky. I'm still mighty suspicious of DP also. He really does seem to be keeping a low profile, emerging often enough to not be a lurker, and mainly to direct the town in some way or put blame on someone.

Nobody's really been posting... I can't condemn, I've been one of the absentees. But it also gives me not much to add right now.

[Dragon Phoenix]

That leaves one more lurker. Let's shake things up a bit, then.

Vote jadesmar

[ralphmerridew]

[jadesmar]

I was stunned into silence by the fact that ralphmerridew was a simple townie and not cult after all.

This seems weird coming from a townie.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Unvote jadesmar

Well, now that we're all together, maybe we can make some progress. I'm still most suspicious for their posts and occasional lack of posts of crakerjack (now ralphmerridew2) and Mackay. Yes, I know all about Mackay's access problems, but when she is on, she posts nothing much more than a vague accusation that I seem suspicious. It is precisely that type of accusing but not voting that I have often seen with scum. They sow the seed for a bandwagon, and can later deny they were guilty (often they even continue to abstain from voting for the one they accuse....).

So for the time being, my best lead:

Vote Mackay

[Mgm]

[jadesmar]

[Dragon Phoenix]

Nope, nothing to do with the fact that she is voting me. I thought I explained in my post that I consider her behaviour a generic scummy one, hence my vote. If it would have been anybody else she was mentioning, I would do the same.

[ralphmerridew]

I personally believe DP to be town, so I plan on following him.

[jadesmar]

[Mgm]

Voting someone when you know they have an access problem isn't really anything I expected DP to do. In fact I find it quite scummy.

Vote: DP

[Dragon Phoenix]

Now how about sitting back and thinking about that statement? So according to your book, we can never lynch someone with access problems? Score one for a sure mafia victory tactics then.

If required, Mackay will be replaced. So far, she has been around sufficiently to play the game, and as part of that game she is just as much a target for votes as anyone of us. I have explained why I voted, not so much for the lack of access, but for the contents of her posts.

[MatthewV]

You are getting defensive.

FOS DP

May turn to a vote oh so soon.

[Mackay]

Having convinced my sister that this is literally a matter of life and death, she has let me use her computer to make one single post in response. (For now, I mean.)

First, I have to say a word in DP's defense here, he is not attacking me for being absent, and he shouldn't have to worry about being victimised due to my lack of access. He's right in at least ONE sense ( ), if I'm around enough to play, I'm around enough to be lynched.

It does look dodgy, though, DP, I must say.
Now look. You keep accusing me of making vague accusations, which either leads me to believe you haven't been reading my posts, or that you are ignoring them and persisting in exactly what made you seem suspicious to me in the first place.
Here, in italics so it stands out: You are suspicious to me because you have only ever emerged from "keeping a low profile" for long enough to subtly direct the town toward a lynch, or in this later stage to blatantly attack people.
If that was in any way vague, feel free to keep your vote on. You have been keeping very much under the radar for this entire game. There are a few people who look suspicious, but you have chosen to attack me - the person who is not around often, and who has already revealed their number (which you may not choose to believe, and may not even be relevant, but it's more than anybody else has dared to do), and, well, it just seems that there are better suspects among those. Such as crackerjack, who is now ralphmerridew, and who has now posted a belief that you are innocent. It is this, and this alone, which keeps me from voting you right now - you already have one and the last thing we need is to have the mafia chuck on the final votes if I'm wrong. ralphmerridew must have a reason for what he said - either he is (and crackerjack was) mafia and trying to help you out... in my mind, the more likely theory - OR he somehow knows you're innocent. If this is the case, then lynching you would be a disaster. The two of you rank very highly on my suspicious list right now, so don't take that to mean I WON'T vote you, only that I won't do it in a hasty OMGUS fashion.

Aha! I found my list of everyone's behaviour. In case you thought my suspicion was still too vague:

Day 1 - When mudbuck was being attacked, DP made a comment about "mafia claiming cop when bandwagoned". Mudbuck was not being bandwagoned at the time. I'm fairly sure that's the only time he posted apart from a vote on Nanook. (One example of hanging back to direct the game in subtle ways.)
Day 2 - After his comment of the previous day, DP then voted Logain, for "effectively ignoring that mudbuck had clearly claimed cop". *cough*... moving on... That was the only thing of note he said THAT day, too.
Day 3 - DP's first comment was to wish that he could "switch over to the mafia team", or something along those lines. That, to me, looks like overcompensation, though a seasoned pro like DP doesn't seem the type to say something of that kind. He attacked Logain for most of that day, unvoted "for now" when he claimed cop, and then voted for Jedo "to move the game along".
Day 4 - DP votes for mudbuck, unvotes to vote ref, unvotes to vote mudbuck. Fair enough, they were both suspicious. They also both turned out to be evil non-mafia roles, the type of roles mafia most like to kill. It's not much to go on, but it's noteworthy.
All I have after that is that he voted for ref on day 5.

So to repeat myself, DP has been mainly keeping a low profile, only to emerge to tip the voting balance one way or another.

Specific enough for you?

OK, my sister is yelling at me for taking too long. *laugh* Catch you again next time I'm under attack.

[Dragon Phoenix]

Fair enough.

Unvote Mackay

Now, if you all excuse me, I'm going back to lying low, because the last time I stuck my neck out to accuse someone, I got a quick vote and a FOS. Let someone else lead the next accusation.

[Neo]

I went back and read mackays posts. My first impression (no in-depth analysis, I just skim-read them) is that she flings suspicion on everybody and then goes with the flow of the town.

I'm a little lost on the DP deal. He's making sense to me, mgm is not. Yes, Mackay has access problems, but that doesn't mean she's not scum. It doesn't mean that she is either, though she's as good a candidate as any.

In fact, I think mgm is stretching a little bit. He's saying DP is voting only because mackay has access problems.

[Neo]

Blah, damnit! Quit posting when I'm typing!
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[ralphmerridew]

I do not have any special information about DP; my reasons for believing him to be town are solely based on his posts.

[Mgm]

[Courk]

Vote count:

DP - 1 - (Mgm)