Grantstein's Challenge

[Lepton]

Here it is

Thanks to mathgrant for another one.

[referee]

Sherlock, anyone?
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[newby...]

Er... seems to have inspired strong emotions...
If anyone cares, I got:

Lucy Sarah Roseanna Hope Ellen
USA FRA UK CAN AUS
Yel Green Red Blue White
3 4 5 2 1
SL RC H 1-way Stop

so, er, yeah.

[Neo]

I see this is going well.
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[winterHLepsilon]

I think there are so many clues that this puzzle seems [bold/]messy[/bold]. How do you deal with puzzles like this?

Note: Even if it is messy, I can do away with it. Brrrrr....
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[jims]

I get the following from west to east:

Lucy, USA, Yellow, Speed Limit, 3 kids
Sarah, France, Green, Railroad Crossing, 4 kids
Rosanna, UK, Red, Hospital, 5 kids
Hope, Canada, Blue, One-Way, 2 kids
Ellen, Autralia, White, Stop Sign, 1 Kid


A grid really helps with this one. Use the categories given as well as 5 locations.

[vikasj007]

United States France UK Canada Aus
Yellow Green Red Blue White
3 4 5 2 1
Speed Limit Railroad Hospital One-Way Stop
Lucy Sarah Rossanne Hope Ellen

[I AM SO SMRT]

half an hour and a million tables later

LUCY Sarah Rosanna hope ELLEN
COLOUR Yellow Green RED blue white
KIDS 3 4 5 2 1
NATIONALITY US FRENCH UK Canadian AUSTRALIAN
ROAD SIGN Speed Railway Hospital One Way stop



im so proud of myself

[ralphmerridew]

Gee, I only needed two tables:
There are at least two people left of Red/UK/5 (US and France) and at least one to the right (ONE WAY). So Red/UK/5 is in the middle or right-middle house.

Oh, and my solution is:

[GH]

How many times will we be posting the same answer?

[bharat1983]

following r the solutions

from left to right
Lucy Sarah Rosanna Hope Ellen
Yellow Green or Blue Red Blue or Green White
US France UK Canada Aus
3 or 4 3 or 4 5 2 1
Speed RR Hosp OneWay Stop

Sarah and Hope can have any of the Blue or Green color house
Lucy and Sarah can have 3 or 4 childrens

[Digit Ne]

To answer GH - Infinite!! Bwahahaha!

Here goes:
Left to right:

Lucy - US - 3 - yellow - speed limit
Sarah - France - 4 - green - railroad crossing
Rosanna - UK - 5 - red - hospital
Hope - Canada - 2 - blue - one way
Ellen - Australian - 1 - white - stop

(collaboration with a non-GLer friend)

[sylphish]

[starfruit]

what about the methods?
I found out that rosanna can be the only one with 5 children first,and from there on it can actually be considered solved...

[hellmanap]

I think this works:

Left Most Lucy - Yellow - 3 - US - Speed Limit
2nd From Left Sarah - Green - 4 - France - RR Crossing
Middle Rosanna - Red - 5 - UK - Hospital
2nd From Right Hope - Blue - 2 - Canada - One Way
Right Most Ellen - White - 1 - Australia - Stop

Once I trided positioning things on the street, it kind of fell into place

[GuestUser]

There are, as far as I can see, two valid final tables for this puzzle, neither of which contradict the given statements.

Table one is:

YELLOW BLUE RED GREEN WHITE
LUCY SARAH ROSANNA HOPE ELLEN
AMER. FRENCH BRITISH CANAD. AUST.
SPEED RAIL HOSPITAL ONE W. STOP
3 4 5 2 1


Table two is:

YELLOW GREEN RED BLUE WHITE
LUCY SARAH ROSANNA HOPE ELLEN
AMER. FRENCH BRITISH CANAD. AUST.
SPEED RAIL HOSPITAL ONE W. STOP
4 3 5 2 1


The original statements aren't worded especially well, since statement 10 suggests that the American lives one house directly to the left of the Britain, when such a configuration is impossible because the three resulting possible places for the American the French and the Britain will contradict statements 1, 3, or 4.

Incidentally, the colour layout of table two is possible under the assumption that statement 12 does not preclude Hope's house being blue itself (again, the statement needs to have been better worded). The children change from tables one and two, however, are possible without contradicting any statement, so, whilst fun, there isn't actually a single correct answer but 3 (four if the house colour change is permissable).

[hellmanap]

Clue 12 tells us that although Hope does not live there, THERE IS a house that has 2 neighbors, one of which has 4 children and the OTHER is blue. Therefore, the blue house does not have 4 children.

When I read clue 10 I never thought it implied that the American and the Brit were next door to each other.

[Flying Dutchman]

I thought clue 10 meant they were next-door, so I couldn't find a solution.........

[smashyourtv]

oh, i see how it is. i found this new site that says "UNSOLVED PUZZLE!", so i spent the last hour solving it, only to get here (to post it) and see ALL the ANSWERS! ...I don't feel as cool now... oh well, this is what i got:

Lucy in the far west house (yellow) is from the usa , has 3 kids, & is by the speed limit sign. moving east...
sarah Green France 4 RRXing
Rosanna Red UK 5 Hospital
Hope Blue Canada 2 Oneway
Ellen White Austrailia 1 Stopsign

..thats it, i guess
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[Ferris]

GuestUser (Post 15):

Both your tables are incorrect, because Statement 12 gives us the information that there exists a woman who has 2 neighbours - one with 4 kids, one in a blue house. In Table 1, you have those two neighbours as the same house. In Table 2, they are too far apart.

Even though I'm by no means the first to solve it, I got the same answer that most people have already posted. For completeness' sake, it's:

posted a zillion times above already - can't you read??




Honestly!

Let me be the first, though - to thank mathgrant for another excellent puzzle, and also challenge the complaint above that it's 'messy' - all statements are needed, and none of them duplicate information.

[Jedo the Jedi]

This puzzle is not as hard as all of you are making it out to be. And did no one happen to notice that Ellen the Australian is Mackay? Well, I guess if you're not a regular, you wouldn't realize that. Sorry for the interruption. Carry on taking, 30+ minutes to solve this weakling puzzle.

[BOXUS]

Einstine's riddle (which is a lot like this one, or vice versa) is a lot better. I'll leave it at that.

[referee]

Wait, no. Mackay doesn't have a child. nice homage, mathgrant.
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[willy]

what's that ellen liking to post here all about?! i've been going thru dozens of messages without finding a clue in there... am i dumb or was there just nothing to get? Some post mentions ellen signing 'LN' but noone's posted antying under that name .
Ok. Me crap.

[Guest]

well, whether there was a clue in the previous bit or not, i got it all right anyway. i feel so much superior. Puzzles can give one that self-confidence boost much needed at times .

Should anyone find a clue where i did not, please let me know, i'll be glad to hear 'bout that.

[lguest]

i don't see the point ... i spent last hour trying to figure out the puzzle ... which still says "Unresolved" ... to come to this forum and see that it has been resolved long time ago ...

Anyway here is my solution
Left(West)..............................Right
Lucy...Sarah...Rosana...Hope...Ellen
US...France...UK...Canada...Aus
Yellow...Geen...Red...Blue...White
3...4...5...2...1
Speed...Railroad...Hospital...Oneway...Stop

[steve2404]

i just found that it went USA FRANCE AND UK, in that order and as UK and canada could not be at either end (as they both have two neighbours) i new there was only one place that trio could go and work from there, knowing so much about the UK girl made it easy. 7 minutes i took. the answer has been posted so many times seems pointless to post it again. Bring on the next Puzzle......
steve

[angel]

that was such an easy puzzle give us one that is challanging

[mathgeek]

[lostdummy]

lol.. I also thought this was unsolved for so long, solved it, then noticed here it was solved long time ago.

Anyway, I found this solution:


Sarah ,FR , green , 4 child , Rail Cross , #2
Hope ,CAN , blue , 2 child , One Way , #4
Ellen ,Aus , white , 1 child , Stop , #5
Rosanna ,UK , red , 5 child , Hospital , #3
Lucy , USA , yellow , 3 child , Speed Lmt , #1

[volleybgrl]

Shoot...and I thought no one had the answer! Darn...anyway, I've got what the rest have figured out

Lucy, Sarah, Rosanna, Hope, Ellen
USA, France, UK, Canada, Australia
Speed, RR, Hosp., 1 Way, Stop
Yellow, Green, Red, Blue, White
3, 4, 5, 2, 1

[ShadowSword]

Haha.(just because ur new )
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[Cristian]

Hello ,

I am new so...

hmm... In case this puzzel has not been solved ( and so I noticed )

I have my solution ::

Lucy Sarah Rosanna Hope Ellen
Yellow Blue Red Green White
4 kids 3kids 5kids 2kids 1kid
USA France UK Canada Australia
Speed Limit Railroad Hospital Oneway Stop

Hope I did good !