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extropalopakettle
No offense, but....
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 Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:27 am Post subject: 41 |
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| Jedo the Jedi wrote: |
| If there are people out there that want to degrade their minds and look at that stuff, that's fine by me. |
I'm sure they'll be happy to know you approve. |
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MatthewV
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| Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:37 pm Post subject: 42 |
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Imagine: You house has had paper walls. And that every house in your entire town was once this way.
Makes way for strange sexual habits if you ask me. |
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i_h8_evil_stuff
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:53 am Post subject: 44 |
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Aarondalf
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:18 am Post subject: 45 |
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For the record, what is morally reprehensible about 'whoring', being a pornstar, or looking at any sort of adult material?
And I'd *really* love to hear that answered by a Christian.  |
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Guest
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:51 am Post subject: 46 |
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| You'll just get some lousy bible quotes. |
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Aarondalf
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 6:39 am Post subject: 47 |
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| Well, I'm hoping for more than just getting told what an invisible man thinks. |
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Porn star
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 7:17 am Post subject: 48 |
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| It's a lousy career choice. Not much room for advancement unless you're Jenna Jameson. |
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Jedo the Jedi
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: 49 |
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| For the record, what is morally reprehensible about 'whoring', being a pornstar, or looking at any sort of adult material? |
Well, Mackay could probably give you a better answer, but I'll tell you what I think. (Yes, there will be Bible material.)
The morally reprehensible part of 'whoring' and being a pornstar is the sexual immorality. God sanctioned sex for marriage, and to do that outside of marriage is a sin. Now, what if you're not really having sex? Well, it's still a sexual act. Also, if you cause someone to sin, then you're sinning too.
So, that's what's wrong with looking at adult material. It is adultery. You have lusted after them in your heart and mind.
That's what comes to my mind. Of course, I'm not saying that if you look at porn, you're going to Hell. I'm just saying that it's a sin. (According to God and the Bible.) |
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Eykir
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:27 pm Post subject: 50 |
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| Why is lust a sin? |
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extropalopakettle
No offense, but....
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: 51 |
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| Why is murder morally wrong? |
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Eykir
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:01 pm Post subject: 52 |
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Point taken, extro 
Let me rephrase the question.
What reason does god give for why lust is a sin? |
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doormouse11
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:59 am Post subject: 53 |
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| For the record, what is morally reprehensible about 'whoring', being a pornstar, or looking at any sort of adult material? |
I really liked your answer, Jedi, but I'm not religious, so does anyone have a not-necessarily-religious answer?
Also, why is it illegal? The studies I have heard of haven't found any kind of link between porn and violence/crime, so what is the cause for making a law against pornography? And the pornography laws are really annoyingly vague.
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| Part of the inherent controversy regarding Pornography Laws is the definition of obscenity. Officially, the idea is that anything that is offensive according to contemporary standards of obscenity in your community is obscene. This means that depending where you are in the country determines whether or not something you have in your possession is obscene, in the eyes of the law. |
http://legalinformation.articleinsider.com/64303_pornography_laws.html |
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Jedo the Jedi
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:20 am Post subject: 54 |
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Is porn completely illegal in some states? Because I know that you have to be eighteen (usually) to look at it, but that's to protect the innocence of children. I didn't know that it was illegal, like marijuana is.
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| What reason does god give for why lust is a sin? |
Er, maybe because it causes adultery? That's the only reason I can think of, at the moment. Like I said, adultery isn't just when someone has sex with someone other than their spouse, it's also if you imagine yourself doing things with another person. And 'Thou shalt not commit adultery' is one of the Ten Commandments. Of course, it could also be because it is unwholesome and/or unholy. |
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Guest
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:43 am Post subject: 55 |
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| Why is adultery wrong? Why is god so intent on protecting marriage? |
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Jedo the Jedi
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:50 am Post subject: 56 |
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| I don't know. No one knows the mind of God. |
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Guest
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:00 am Post subject: 57 |
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| What if God told you that you had to hop on 1 foot for 2 hours every other wednesday? |
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wordcross
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:05 am Post subject: 58 |
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I'd do it.
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Eykir
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:15 am Post subject: 59 |
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| If no one knows the mind of god, how can one say god thinks lust is a sin? |
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doormouse11
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:47 am Post subject: 60 |
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| Is porn completely illegal in some states? Because I know that you have to be eighteen (usually) to look at it, but that's to protect the innocence of children. |
porn is illegal in all states by federal law. Adult videos, however, are legal for adults. The difference is that "adult videos" aren't obscene according to the views of the community where they are permitted. Pornography is just "creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire" and is considered obscene. (http://wordweb.info/free/) So basically, in order to be legal, adult videos have to have a plot. otherwise they are just scummy, illegal porn.
I read a newspaper article in one of the Dallas papers about a year ago about this couple that produced and sold an adult film of themselves. They were arrested because according to the average citizen of Dallas, their film had no artistic merit and was considered obscene or offensive. So the moral is, if you are going to make a porno, be sure it has a good plot.
So why does the government go to such great lengths to protect us from the obscenity of plotless porn? It's just weird to me that the government cares at all. |
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doormouse11
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jadesmar
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:41 am Post subject: 62 |
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| doormouse11 wrote: |
So the moral is, if you are going to make a porno, be sure it has a good plot. |
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The Ragin' South Asian
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:59 am Post subject: 63 |
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| having artistic value and having a plot need not be the same thing |
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Termital
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:04 pm Post subject: 64 |
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Protect the innocence of children? You mean there is such a thing? I thought it was just a legend. Well, maybe I come from the wrong side of the tracks. I'm pretty sure I don't come from Sweden. Maybe innocence avoids me because of my fishy star sign. Hopefully I'm not making any sense by now- next time trust the warning label.
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Jedo the Jedi
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:49 pm Post subject: 65 |
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| If no one knows the mind of god, how can one say god thinks lust is a sin? |
Lust and adultery are virtually the same thing. There may be a very fine line of difference, I don't know. I do know that God lists in the Bible 'Do not commit adultery' as one of the Ten Commandments, like I said. If they're the same thing, then lust is a sin. Nobody knows the mind of God, but what he says in the Bible, we do know. Does that answer your question, or am I still not being clear enough? |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:48 pm Post subject: 66 |
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So we don't know the mind of god, we only know the bible. Which was written a bit less than 2000 years ago, and records events that occured many years earlier.
How do you know you've placed your faith correctly? There are many other books out there, claiming to be the word of God. How do you know that the bible is right and the Koran isn't? |
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Internet Stranger
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:59 pm Post subject: 67 |
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Are any of you stuck on the notion that cartoons/anime are primarily for children?
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i_h8_evil_stuff
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:19 am Post subject: 68 |
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| So we don't know the mind of god, we only know the bible. Which was written a bit less than 2000 years ago, ... |
Maybe YOUR bible. The hebrew bible, aka the Torah, was written well before Jesus was born. After all, Jesus was jewish.
Also, my bible has not yet been written, in case anyone cares. I don't think they do.
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Guest
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:34 am Post subject: 69 |
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| I was trying to keep things nice and simple for Jedo. Your point about the age of the Torah if anything supports what I'm trying to say. |
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Eykir
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:57 am Post subject: 70 |
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| Lust and adultery are virtually the same thing |
So does that mean lust is only a sin if you are married? If you're single, you can't really commit adultery =)
edit: Silly UBB tags |
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groza528
No Place Like Home
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:18 am Post subject: 71 |
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Y'know? I never really considered it that way, but that's absolutely accurate... Adultery requires a marriage by definition.
Does that mean that the ten commandments do not forbid pre-marital sex at all, but rather disloyalty? |
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Celt
still thinking
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:49 am Post subject: 72 |
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Love your neighbour as yourself.
I know everyone on this forum loves themselves.
Sometimes more than once a day.
Now it's your neighbour's turn.  |
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L'lanmal
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:16 pm Post subject: 73 |
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Y'know? I never really considered it that way, but that's absolutely accurate... Adultery requires a marriage by definition.
Does that mean that the ten commandments do not forbid pre-marital sex at all, but rather disloyalty |
I'm no expert on scripture, but that's how I read it. (Esp. since committing adultery and covetting another man's wife are separate in many texts.)
Recall that there had been many disputes in the community at the time (Exodus 18). The ten commandments helped to prevent strife in the community, and let them focus on things such as staying alive instead. Adultery is definately something that could cause disputes.
(As would stealling, murder, arguments over having some people forcing their slaves to work on the Sabbath, or arguing about whether their God isn't the right God, or doing evil acts in God's name, etc. I'd imagine having children obey their mother and father would also be necessary to the community running smoothly when you are nomadic.) |
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Jedo the Jedi
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:14 am Post subject: 74 |
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| You guys just like to try and find loopholes, don't you? Well, what about sexual immorality? Does that not refer to sex outside of the marriage bond? I mean, I don't think they are the same, considering that that and adultery are both mentioned as do nots in Hebrews, in the same sentence. |
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Jedo the Jedi
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:17 am Post subject: 75 |
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| How do you know you've placed your faith correctly? There are many other books out there, claiming to be the word of God. How do you know that the bible is right and the Koran isn't? |
It's called faith. I believe that the Bible is true because of faith. Besides, I don't even know what the Koran says, but isn't that from Mohammed? I don't fully understand the Islamic religion, but it's very different from Christianity and the Bible, as far as I know. |
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extropalopakettle
No offense, but....
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:44 am Post subject: 76 |
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| This thread is almost starting to get away from the "anime porn" topic. |
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Eykir
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:23 am Post subject: 77 |
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Jedo, if you mean this:
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| Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. |
Whoremongers are prostitutes by definition,.
It says Marriage is honorable, and nothing at all about sex before marriage.
I wouldn't call it finding loopholes. I would call it common sense and logic. =) |
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Guest
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:25 am Post subject: 78 |
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| So why put your faith in christianity? Why not put your faith in Islam, or Judaism, or the mighty power of grass, or voodoo? |
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Guest
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:27 am Post subject: 79 |
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| I meant grass as in the stuff on my lawn, not the drug. Trees work better anyways. The mighty power of trees. |
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Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:01 am Post subject: 80 |
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Look, Eykir, I don't know where in the Bible it is located. I do know that it is a Christian principle (in most faiths). If it isn't in the Bible, then go have all the sex outside of marriage that you want.
Guest, because I choose to put my faith in God. One, that's how I was raised. Two, most other faiths are not as believable. So, if it's a matter of getting me to change my stance, I won't. I believe in God and the Bible and all that pertains to it, and if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. |
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