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mith
Pitbull of Truth

 Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:58 pm    Post subject: 1 Link to puzzle
Lucky Wizard
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:40 pm    Post subject: 2 Well, I've counted some things in the diagram to see if the numbers give me any ideas. http://www.glpics.com/luckywizard/Final%20Destination.txt The numbers haven't given me any ideas though. (I even looked at the Wikipedia articles on some of the larger numbers to see if they were a count of anything well-known.) The file linked above might be useful, though.
Oscar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:31 pm    Post subject: 3 Aha! It looks like the button could have the initials CCW on it. Without giving the game away entirely I'll just say that I've always considered myself a bit of a ladies man! Unsurprisingly, in such a complex puzzle, I think I've found 2 (related) errors: wrt the 4 rows of double-stacked circles in the top right of the diagram, the bottom leftmost circle in the bottom row and the top rightmost circle in the 3rd row should be brown not white. It's not a mistake but a personal sadness that the top circle 7th from the left in the bottom row is not only white but our most recent!
impossibleroot
Hi-Keeba!

 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:39 am    Post subject: 4 How did your understanding of the three diagrams lead to your conclusion, especially in light of the stars?
Oscar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:31 am    Post subject: 5 I thought that the stars just fixed a particular year (and I haven't got a clue what the left hand part indicates) so in the light of your response I'll give that some more thought...
wolverine7
Paragon of Mafia Hunters

 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:45 am    Post subject: 6 I have no idea. I am completely lost. I think I would just pound on every button available to me. With my head. Those hints did nothing for me. I hope the solution really spells it out, because there's no chance I will ever get this.
Busted!

 Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:57 pm    Post subject: 7 hrm...this seems pretty complex. Im with wolverine7 right now. Can you tell us what button i would press to start the trip?_________________"Heads you're good, tails you fail" says my fortune cookie
Oscar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:46 am    Post subject: 8 IR, I've made no progress with the left hand side, so maybe a hint or two is required... I'm assuming that the stars indicate the last few stops, and that the 3rd star is actually on the red pentangle rather than the one below it for a good reason. Correct? I had assumed that the centre section was a different way of looking at the same event clued by the right section, but am now not convinced this is so.... Also the flavourtext suggests we might be looking for a specific person or entity to press the button, rather than the generic puzzle-solver as in the Peacock puzzle. Is this right?Last edited by Oscar on Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:48 pm; edited 1 time in total
scribe
Icarian Member

 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: 9 Hmm, I've had this open for a week or so and been staring at it when I can. Some small things I note that may or may not be of use... - The 4 sets of circles in the top-right seem to be 29 pairs across (with the middle 2 sets missing various ranges) - The circles in these sets seem to be arranged in some rainbow-like colour order, from left to right - All of the lines of circles in the middle-right part begin with a white circle My initial thought was something to do with lifts/elevators, but now I'm not so sure. What comes in pairs of 29? Some kind of sports league with pairs being matches maybe? Hum.
impossibleroot
Hi-Keeba!

 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:13 pm    Post subject: 10 Hint 1, as posted on the VSP thread: How many 'objects' are in the center diagram? Also, Scribe is on the right track with the third diagram.
scribe
Icarian Member

 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: 11 Starting to notice some possible connections now, spoilered: Namely that if we assume that the middle 2 rows of the top-right bit are supposed to be complete, then they would actually be missing 10 pairs of circles. Coincidence that there are also 20 lines of circles in the middle? 10 pairs = 20 circles. There are also 10 shapes in the bottom left. Hmm.
Oscar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: 12 OK, that hint is no help to me, so it's time to come clean with what I've got: The right hand side shows the finalists in the ladies singles at Wimbledon since the event started in 1884 (gaps for the world wars) The last 5 years show the actual scores, including tie-break results, and the number of sides on each polygon give the lengths of the forenames of the finalists. (The star is on Venus Williams in the final of 2000) I had thought the centre section was another view of one particular tournament - there are 32 white circles (= no. of seeded players) and the total no. of circles = 126 which would be the total no. of matches upto and including the semi-finals, hence my initial guess of CCW (Centre Court Wimbledon) for the impending final. The no. of dotted lines could split the tournament into rounds - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, QF, SF and final. (Also the no. of strings of circles = 20, which corresponds to the no. of courts) However if the star represents a visit and is only against one string of circles, then that theory starts to look a little shakey, and as I say, I have no idea what the left side diagram is supposed to represent. (Flags/countries?) Another avenue I looked at was to figure out why the star was on Venus herself and not alongside her match against Lindsay Davenport. Was it because there was a probe on the planet Venus in 2000? Do the other sections represent other planets on some long voyage? Anyway it's time to get someone else speculating on this...
Mr Stoofer
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: 13 If Oscar is correct, then the left hand side might be related to the London Underground ("Tube") map. All that is left is the last leg of your journey, said to be the shortest. This could be by Tube. Since the puzzle requires you to punch a button to make this leg of the journey, I suggest you press "Wimbledon" on the automatic ticket machine in the underground station. Last edited by Mr Stoofer on Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:15 pm; edited 2 times in total
dybeck
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:59 pm    Post subject: 14 The top right is ladies finals too. It goes from left to right, top to bottom where the gaps are the wars. The final one is 1999. The colors correspond to individual competitors, just like in the bottom right. White circles there correspond to people who have only ever appeared in one Wimbledon ladies final.
MatthewV
Daedalian Member :_

 Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:29 am    Post subject: 15 Hint: [The introductory text is rather large hint. ] And to expand on what impossibleroots already hinted at...[There are XXVI items in the center. ] This was created over two months...but it also is a very complex puzzle.
Foggy
In the clouds

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:52 pm    Post subject: 16 To build on Matthew's hint, that obviously suggests letters of the alphabet. If that's true, then the white circles probably represent the the same letter within that word. I think it's a list of car manufacturers. I can spot Cadillac, Dodge, Ford, GTO, Nissan, Yugo, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Rangerover, etc.
Foggy
In the clouds

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:18 pm    Post subject: 17 A more complete list Aston Martin, Buick, Cadillac, Dodge, Ford, GTO or GEO, Hyundai, Infiniti, Jaguar, Kia. Lincoln, Mustang. Nissan. Oldsmobile. Pontiac. Range Rover. Saab. Toyota. Volvo. Yugo This gives us a way to match colors to letters. However, the lack of an E seems to belie this being a cryptogram of some sort.
impossibleroot
Hi-Keeba!

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:01 pm    Post subject: 18 Spot on, except that one of those isn't an auto company...
Foggy
In the clouds

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: 19 Well, some of them are models not makes, but perhaps you're refering to Rolls Royce instead of Range Rover.
impossibleroot
Hi-Keeba!

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:27 pm    Post subject: 20 Whoops, I was actually referring to a different one, but nice catch -- it is indeed Rolls Royce.
Foggy
In the clouds

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:03 pm    Post subject: 21 Maybe Mercury instead of Mustang?
Foggy
In the clouds

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: 22 Rereading the flavortext, I think the key thing is that there are several different categories that the sections belong to. The chief refers to him 'cruising around'...this is the middle section. I think the other three sections are "sweets", "finals", and old "amenities"...with the sweets on the left, finals on the upper right, and amenities on the lower right.
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:30 pm    Post subject: 23 If that's right, Foggy, then I'm guessing the left side represents wrappers of candy bars. Perhaps the green/white/brown one connected to the star is Milky Way? Okay, I think I've got something... Off to look some stuff up.
Foggy
In the clouds

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject: 24 That seems very likely, namely (I'm posting without spoilers from here on in) * Length of the bar is the same relative length of the candy bar * Thin middle line is the color of its letters * Other colors indicate colors of the rest of the page * Connecting lines indicate the company that makes those candies * Starred connector lines is Mars, manufacturer of Snickers, Milky Way, M&Ms, etc. (The red connector appears to Nestle, as the last of the red items appears to be a Crunch bar) So of the three starred items, two apparently are planets. Any bets on the third being Venus or Earth?Last edited by Foggy on Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:57 pm; edited 1 time in total
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:55 pm    Post subject: 25 Oscar already posted a possible interpretation of the right side which gave Venus as the answer. Not sure if it's correct, though, but he sounds as if the diagram is right. I'm already working on a list for the candy bars (and yes, Mars would be the star), but I ran into a problem with the 6th from the bottom. I can only guess it would be Payday, but it's not connected to the other Hershey's candies.
Foggy
In the clouds

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: 26 The Nestle bars (red) appear to be 100 Grand, Baby Ruth, Butterfinger, and Crunch.
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:05 pm    Post subject: 27 Well, "Nestle Crunch," assuming that the bars in alphabetical order. Here's what I have so far: 100 Grand (Nestle) Almond Joy (Peter Paul) Baby Ruth (Nestle) Butterfinger (Nestle) Caramello (Cadbury) ? ? Hershey's Milk Chocolate (Hershey's) KitKat (HB Reese) Milky Way (Mars) Mounds (Peter Paul) Mr. Goodbar (Hershey's) Nestle Crunch (Nestle) Payday (Leaf) Reese's Nutrageous (HB Reese) Snickers (Mars) Twix (Mars) Whatchamacallit (Hershey's) Zero (Hershey's) EDIT: Okay, I think it's the company the bars were first produced under. Hmm... Actually, Zero was produced by Hollywood Brands before being bought by Hershey. I'm confused now. (Could be York Peppermint Patties, but those were also bought.)Last edited by fadeblue on Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:42 pm; edited 3 times in total
Foggy
In the clouds

 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: 28 Finally realized that the colors in the car section tie together like countries of origin...starting with reds for the country, then orange, yellow, etc.
Foggy
In the clouds

 Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:00 pm    Post subject: 29 So just to tidy this up, and hopefully finish it off... I think collectively we've determined the significance of all portions of the diagram. From left to right we have Mars, Mercury, and Venus. Given that the last leg is the shortest, I would have to say that the most likely answer is the Moon.
guy
Icarian Member

 Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: 30 hi
Guest

 Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:07 pm    Post subject: 31 Who the heck would think this is fun!!!!!!!!!!! This is sooo boring.
Guest

 Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:10 pm    Post subject: 32 Why the heck are all the letters wierd! I dont like this website
guy
Icarian Member

 Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:11 pm    Post subject: 33 ohhhhh hellll so the of to run withthe whales
Lucky Wizard
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:53 am    Post subject: 34 The letters are weird because of an April Fools joke. It'll be normal tomorrow.
MatthewV
Daedalian Member :_

 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:16 am    Post subject: 35 The correct solution has not been said yet.
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:31 am    Post subject: 36 Then is the answer "Earth"? If the last few stops were Mars->Mercury->Venus, then only Earth could be the shortest leg of the trip (assuming that Mercury and Venus weren't at opposite points in their orbits)...
Guest

 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:30 am    Post subject: 37 I also think earth makes more sense according to the introductory text. There is the mention of the amenities we grew up with, but have been missing; we're anxious to reach the final destination after the chief mentions them, too. I can't see anyone being too anxious to go to the moon and STAY THERE (because this is the last leg of the journey). -Protected @ university
MatthewV
Daedalian Member :_

 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:19 am    Post subject: 38 You stop by the 'ld Moon Bunker for a bite of real food, low gravity tennis, and moon mobiles before heading home to earth. The solution has been posted. (I am not surprised the correct answer didn't take long after I mentioned this hadn't been solved.)
Protected
Icarian Member

 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:06 pm    Post subject: 39 Oooh, Ford makes moon mobiles? I have to get one of those =)
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