Fantasy Football

[Agamemnon]

Are we up for the usual still this time around?

[mith]

Yeah, I was just waiting a bit to start it so people don't sign up and then not play.

But we should probably go ahead and discuss how we're going to set things up this year. Yahoo scoring and everything is fine with me, as usual, but perhaps more important is: how big of a league do we want? Last year we had 14, and that was definitely pushing it in terms of having enough decent players available. I suggested in last year's thread that we shoot for two leagues of 8 (8 being the optimal number for football, IMO, as everyone plays everyone twice, and then 2 rounds of playoffs, without having to play into the last week of the season where you get weird results.). *If* we have enough for that, then we would need to decide how to split the leagues. Some options are:

1. Completely random. Everyone would sign up here, and then I (or someone) would stick the names in excel or random.org or whatever and split them into two groups. Probably the fairest as far as balance and such goes.

2. First come, first served. First 8 to sign up get in the first league, anyone else in the second. Possibly more likely to get the ones who really like doing it in the first league, which is good (though depending on when the signup starts, it could have more to do with timezones or something else).

3. By draft time. Pick two decent draft times, and then everyone signs up for whichever they can make.

4. Some sort of past-participation based division. One option here is to give the top finishers last year the first shot at being in the first league (and then next year, top finishers in each league). That, or just put together everyone who's been doing it for several years.

But whatever is decided, it's probably important that everyone post their interest in playing, so we know how many.

/in

[L'lanmal]

In as usual. (Bleek!)

I agree if we get more than last year we'll need two leagues.

[Eykir]

Of course I'm /in. Gotta defend one of my titles.

[Samadhi]

Does aga mean football or football? If it's football, I'm in.

[Agamemnon]

Football as in Football is correct.
I put my Yankee head on for that, knowing that soccer would have confused myself anyway, plumped for football as in the Yankee Football sense and hoped, as you did anyway, that you guessed the right one.

btw
did you know that Rugby union was also once called football many years ago. Reason why some clubs are still known as 'Rugby Football' clubs.

Probably won't interest you Yanks anyway

I still prefer the word 'Football' over 'Soccer'.

[Agamemnon]

Has mith ever won any of these GL fantasy Football games?

[mith]

I won two years ago. I don't think I played on here before that, though I'm not entirely sure. Who won the first year?

[L'lanmal]

2004 (14 teams): Championship - Thunder defeats Thunder's brother
3rd place - Eykir defeats Aga

2003 (6 teams): Championship - mith defeats L'lanmal
3rd place - Lepton defeats Eykir?

2002 (10 team league): Championship - "Next big things"? defeats Crackerjack?

That year we had about 5 GLers in a 10 team league, with the remainder of the teams being Crackerjack's friends/coworkers. I think I lost the 3rd place game to another of Crackerjack's bunch.

mith is correct he did not play with us that year, but he frequently posted to explain how badly he would've beaten us if he were playing.

[mith]

Well yeah, if you'd let me have the team I had in the Tyler league. It was a 7 team league for one thing, and I ended up with an insane team.

[Annoyingpest]

/in

No Skillz Brigade to win!!!

[thunder]

I know i haven't been around for awhile but I'm in for Fantasy Football.

I've never won back-to-back championships so I'll give it a go.

[Internet Stranger]

I will be joining again, maybe this time ill actually get WR's that play.
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[Pooky]

ROAR!

/in

*Gots Mith/Sama/IS's backs*

Not defensive backs,

Just backs

[ShadowSword]

i went to sign up for ff and just remembered the gl holds a league. I know i haven't posted in a long while but i figure i'll give it another go. hopefully i can do better than 10th this year.
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[Agamemnon]

Who's gonna kick the league up then? Mith? Eykir? L'lanmal? Samadhi? Me?

[mith]

I'll do it. Guess we're just having one again, then?

[mith]

Alright, it's set up. I'll PM the password out later.

I've set the draft time for Saturday August 6, at 6:30 GMT; that can be changed if it's going to be a bad time. Looks like the weekends are filled up after the 13th-14th.

[Da5id]

So....that'd be 11:30 my time right? OK. If you could send me a PM to remind me that'd be great.

[mith]

10:30, I think? I dunno, when you get signed up and everything it'll have a little countdown clock, so you can check what time that is for you.

It'll be a bit yet before I send out the password. Lots to do today!

[Agamemnon]

Are we playing the same shite points system thats the same as the current rounders game?
I really really don't like that scoring system.
If it was not for my cousin in Boston, I'd be propping up Samadhi by now
It's called barbeque or something else to do with cooking.
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[mith]

The baseball league *is* head-to-head. We're doing rotisserie on mafiascum.

The difference is that in baseball (and basketball) the head-to-head is over several different categories, while it's just points in football, all added together for one game per week. And that's what we always do.

[Da5id]

I liked last year's setup.
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[mith]

League info should be in your PM box. Let me know if you have problems.

[Agamemnon]

[mith]

It means it's the same as it always has been.

Baseball: You accumulate stats in 11 different categories. In each category, either you beat your opponent and get a Win, your opponent beats you to give you a Loss, or you Tie. So, each week there are 11 "Games".

Football: Each player gets points based on the various stats. All the points from your starters are added together. Your total points are compared to your opponent.

[Eykir]

The 6th-7th is bad for me, but if it's okay with everyone else, I can just set my picks.

I am available the 13th-14th

[Da5id]

(Unless it changes)
QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

Passing Yards (50 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (20 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (20 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (7)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (4)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-4)

[mith]

Yeah, we'll stick with yahoo standard unless someone has a compelling reason to be different.

The only thing I'm likely to change at this point other than the draft time is the number of playoff teams; if we have less than 12, I'll set it to the standard 4 teams (weeks 15 and 16).

[Da5id]

*hopes more people sign up*

[Da5id]

We could use a sticky for more attention....

[L'lanmal]

10 seems a fine number to me. (Which is how many we have assuming all those that posted sign-up.)

We can't have an odd number, and if 4 or more additional show up, we'd have talk about splitting the league.

Agamemnon - CSKA Gravesend
mith - Reindeer
L'lanmal - Treecats
Eykir - Indianapolis Doofii
Da5id - SD Ravers
Annoying Pest - (No Skillz Brigade)
thunder - Defending Champs
Internet Stranger - Internet Strangers
Pooky - Pooky's Magical Bears
Shadowsword - (???)

[mith]

10 is actually the standard number for public leagues. It's a pretty good balance between having enough players to go around and the challenge of making it work with a few lesser known guys. I prefer 8 myself, as it works better for scheduling, and if we can get 16 I'm fine with splitting, but 10 is a good number.

[Agamemnon]

Well then, if everyone is happy as Larry, why not close it and go with what we've got.
I can't wait to get my chuckers lobbing the ball to the portly catchers, and have my joggy bashers make a few touching drops. Marvelous!

[mith]

Well, we're still waiting on AP and SS. Though, given how active they are, it might be best to close it anyway.

[mith]

Right, I've given things a closer look, and neither AP or SS can be considered active GLers at this point. Given that the draft is scheduled for Saturday (still open to change, but no one other than Eykir has said anything either way yet), I am going to close it at 8 for now to prevent ending up with an odd number. If either of you guys turns up, post here and we'll see what we can do to take care of the parity.

[thunder]

If we are going with 8 teams, can we expand the roster a bit? Everyone is going to wind up with a superstar team now.

[mith]

Compared to what we had last year? Yeah. That's 'cause 14 is too many.

Like I said, 10 is pretty standard, so we'll be a little stronger than normal; it'll still be a challenge, though.

How would you expand it?

[thunder]

I would say have an active roster of:
2QB
2RB
3WR
2TE
2K
2DEF
1FLEX

then maybe 5 guys on the bench. That allows the top 16 QB,K and DEF to be active each week. It's just a suggestion. Otherwise we'll very likely have guys like Pennington, Leftwich, Carr etc either on the bench or not even on a roster. They are pretty good players just not in the top 8 to 10.

You're right that it would be a challenge either way. My personal preference is always to have a large active roster. I like it when you have to find the bit players who are going to break out next week.

[mith]

Yeah, but unfortunately when it comes down to bit players, the league is often decided by who has the most time and is on at the right time to pick up key free agents. Those in the states have an advantage as it is.

The Tyler league used to do something like:

2 QB, 3 RB, 5 WR, 2 TE, 2 K, 2 DEF

Which I would prefer to what you suggested because it's closer to the RL ratios.

My vote is still for the standard though.

We're locked into this weekend if we're going to stay on a weekend; there's a few early morning times on the 13th, but they're too early to do us any good I think.